North Waziristan tribes wary of brutal foreigners

[al-arab]

lol you drew a fake relationship because of this HG J lol typical Arab logic. Idiot, this HG is a mutation caused by the environment, not that you are somehow related. You are funny. Are Pashtuns related with Germans just because both belong to indo-europeans? idiot. go do suicide and let Pashtuns beeing Pashtuns. You crazy bedouin

You clearly don't know what you are talking about.
Assyrians and Iraqi Arabs share exact same genes, the only difference being religion. Even their language is Semitic. You claim to know history is ridicules and I can only laugh at it.
Your comparison with Germany and Pahstun people is also extremely stupid since they are divided by 10.000 km. Iraqi Arabs have always lived on Iraqi soil where ancient Sumer, Babylon and Mesopotamia civilizations lived. This is a fact and proven by ancient graves, history, culture.

It even influecend our Iraqi Arabic dialect. Don't teach me on my history!

Communism-Amir:

Wahhabism is only popular in Saudi Arabia, rest of the Arab world are Hanafis, Hanbali, Maliki and Shafi'i you imbecile.

Sufism is Arabic tradition and became popular under Abbasid Caliphate (capital Baghdad) imbecile.

"Sufism gained adherents among a number of Muslims as a reaction against the worldliness of the early Umayyad Caliphate (661-750 CE[6])."

How can one be so stupid? All Islamic culture has it root from Arab world.

[یاسمینه]

[QUOTE I know all this my friend, I even mentioned it on this forum before. What I mean is that there is nothing called Pashtun or Arab Islam.

In the Sunni doctrine there are no major differences between any of the schools.[/QUOTE]

I have friends among Pashtuns living in Afghanistan and Pakistan and I heard many times from them the phrase "Pashto Islam" or "Pashtun Islam".
I think it's a common name of Hanafi Islam among Pashtuns. I could be wrong.

[muslim]

You clearly don't know what you are talking about.
Assyrians and Iraqi Arabs share exact same genes, the only difference being religion. Even their language is Semitic. You claim to know history is ridicules and I can only laugh at it.
Your comparison with Germany and Pahstun people is also extremely stupid since they are divided by 10.000 km. Iraqi Arabs have always lived on Iraqi soil where ancient Sumer, Babylon and Mesopotamia civilizations lived. This is a fact and proven by ancient graves, history, culture.

It even influecend our Iraqi Arabic dialect. Don't teach me on my history!

Communism-Amir:

Wahhabism is only popular in Saudi Arabia, rest of the Arab world are Hanafis, Hanbali, Maliki and Shafi'i you imbecile.

Sufism is Arabic tradition and became popular under Abbasid Caliphate (capital Baghdad) imbecile.

"Sufism gained adherents among a number of Muslims as a reaction against the worldliness of the early Umayyad Caliphate (661-750 CE[6])."

How can one be so stupid? All Islamic culture has it root from Arab world.

are you suffi ?

whats your aqeeda ?

[یاسمینه]

So Islam is Pagan religion?

I understood that Nokia worte that only a part of Islam dates back to pre-Islamic time, not that Islam is a Pagan religion. And it is true. Hajj has its origins in pre-Islamic time as well as Salat al-Istiska. Even the way the pilgrims wear Ihram (no knots) has something to do with ancien magical beliefs.
Also Sufism inextricable linked with Islam retains traces of Zoroastrian rites.

[Soldat_Amir]

The burqa is a best example of Pre-Islamic Pagan Arab customs introduced into the Islamic belief system and Hadith.

Well, I will leave it at that.

[graveyardofempires]

what a load of **** thread.

these kafirs are making us pashtuns look bad.

[al-arab]

The burqa is a best example of Pre-Islamic Pagan Arab customs introduced into the Islamic belief system and Hadith.

Well, I will leave it at that.

As is the case in pre-Christianity and Iranian cultures. Nothing to do with one race. It was also common among early Hindu and Buddhism followers.

Muslim:

No, I am not a sufi. I am a Sunni Muslim, and secondly Iraqi Arab.

All 4 schools of Shariah are more or less the same. Hanafi and Shafi'i are the most common in Iraq and the rest of the world. (you can guess which one I "belong" to) All 4 founders of the 4 schools (Imams) were influenced by each other and the first of those 4 (Imam Abu Hanifah (born in Kufa, Iraq) were influenced by earlier schoolars. All 4 have only small differences. As long as people from those 4 School of Laws follow Prophet Muhammads (S.A.W.) truth Hadith and the teachings of the Holy Quran, then it is pointless to make differences. It only divides people.

What about you, since you ask? And what are others opinion on this?

[AFG21]

Arabs talk always about how old there culture and civilization is. But steel what have this old civilization contrubuted to the world.
The only good thing was that they kept the filosofis of the greeks and there sciences and translated them, and the algebra and that's it I think, and about the zero indians and greeks knew about it lng before the arabs knew it. but everything that we see now was invented bij the Europeans. There are not that much stuf that are invented by arabs.

[al-arab]

Arabs talk always about how old there culture and civilization is. But steel what have this old civilization contrubuted to the world.
The only good thing was that they kept the filosofis of the greeks and there sciences and translated them, and the algebra and that's it I think, and about the zero indians and greeks knew about it lng before the arabs knew it. but everything that we see now was invented bij the Europeans. There are not that much stuf that are invented by arabs.

Dear Afg21, I urge you strongly to read more books, especially the Holy Quran so you better will understand the enviroment surrending Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W.)

But I will answer this quickly and give you some links.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._Islamic_world

Read also about the oldest civilazation in the world (Sumer, Babylon, Mosopotamia etc.) All semitic peoples like Arabs.

Don't be fouled by hatred from envious racist that know nothing about real Arab culture.

[AFG21]

Arab should not use Islam as something that they have achieved, Islam was sent from Allah,
and not made by the arab peopel. I know Sumer, Babylon and Mosopotamia, but they have not made something that is like unique that we still use.
Greece filosofie and political system is stil usen after 2000+ years
Chinees firework are still used after 1000 years, Chineese porselein and soap were there inventions
Roman road buildings and aquaducts were the examples for the modern civil ingeneering
Persian human laws were the first in world they were the first who gave money and care to elders weduwers and orphans. And even there poetry is inscribed on the UN building. it is something like this,
The sons of Adam are limbs of each other,
Having been created of one essence.
When the calamity of time affects one limb
The other limbs cannot remain at rest.
If you have no sympathy for the troubles of others,
You are unworthy to be called by the name of a Human.
The last sentence some peopel are really forgeting here.
Mayan calender is steel the most acurate calender of the old times.
And mevlana was the founder of sufism and he came somewhere from Balkh and that is in modern day Afghanistan.

[al-arab]

I don't see the point of your post but try and read this link and then comeback to me and say that Arabs "did nothing" you see today. This is simply not true.

http://www.adc.org/index.php?id=247

[ScimitarXEdge]

Arab should not use Islam as something that they have achieved, Islam was sent from Allah,
and not made by the arab peopel. I know Sumer, Babylon and Mosopotamia, but they have not made something that is like unique that we still use.
Greece filosofie and political system is stil usen after 2000+ years
Chinees firework are still used after 1000 years, Chineese porselein and soap were there inventions
Roman road buildings and aquaducts were the examples for the modern civil ingeneering
Persian human laws were the first in world they were the first who gave money and care to elders weduwers and orphans. And even there poetry is inscribed on the UN building. it is something like this,
The sons of Adam are limbs of each other,
Having been created of one essence.
When the calamity of time affects one limb
The other limbs cannot remain at rest.
If you have no sympathy for the troubles of others,
You are unworthy to be called by the name of a Human.
The last sentence some peopel are really forgeting here.
Mayan calender is steel the most acurate calender of the old times.
And mevlana was the founder of sufism and he came somewhere from Balkh and that is in modern day Afghanistan.

let's see writing, the wheel, iron instruments, , agricultural science, Optics, Physics, Astronomy hmmm yeah they have nothing we use.

[TheCongo]

I have friends among Pashtuns living in Afghanistan and Pakistan and I heard many times from them the phrase "Pashto Islam" or "Pashtun Islam".
I think it's a common name of Hanafi Islam among Pashtuns. I could be wrong.

Liar.

No one says Pashtun Islam. That's kufr. Go to Afghanistan and say that, they'll think you're dumb.

[gomal]

toramakha kaffir is a lair. he posted pictures of korean or japanese kids and said it was pashtuns from parachinar lol. FAIL kaffir. Fail!!!

[یاسمینه]

And yasmeenah is probably smoking something. Never in my life have I heard any Pashtun referring to his religion as Pashtun Islam. Lol. Oh, the desperation of secularists. They take advantage of the fact that al-arab is not a Pashtun and argue with lies they think he won't catch up on. The rest of us are watching so I'd be careful.

I am not smoking, I can't
Almost everything I know about Pashtuns comes from Pashtuns or from people who spent years in Afghanistan, living among Pashtuns. I have no reason to criticize Arabs or Pashtuns or Islam. All my interest in Orient had a beginning years ago in Arabic countries so no point to criticize my own interest.
And writting about Pashtun Islam I only referred to what had been written here by a Pashtun.

You know nothing about my belief. So I would appreciate if you stopped referring my posts to the secularism etc. If you want to offend me, please feel free but let alone belief, origins etc.

I wonder why people here are not able to argue without referring their quarrels to religion, nations, ethnicity etc.