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  • #61
    that wouldn't prove anything either way, you're just inventing our own goal posts.

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    • #62
      So in conclusion, the United States of America has Afghan blood on its hand.
      They instigated the Russians to invade Afghanistan. They armed the warlords like Hekmatyar, Ismail Khan, Dostum, "Northern Alliance", and now these butchers are in the US administered government headed by US puppet Karzai, and all together they are looting the country. They are killing regular afghans, majority of them pashtuns, and they label them "taliban", "insurgents", terrorists.

      The United States and its allies should leave Afghanistan and take with her all her warlord cronies. Afghans don't want to be occupied by a foreign force. The Afghan people are fighting back against occupation, and in the process more are dying. However, if the Afghans do not fight against the occupying forces, more will die anyway, and the situation will get worse and worse.
      Some Lenin-Lover believes that if Afghans stop seeking revenge for the bombs dropped on their villages, then they will ultimately become successful like Japan and Germany. However, what he wants is that Afghans should lose their religion. And heretics like ****mitar will back him and say that jihad is not fard on Afghans because "it is not clear" if the US is an enemy to them. This is an ideological war, a war on Muslims. It is happening in Libya, in Yemen, in Somalia, in Iraq...etc.


      Here is the latest news:
      9 October, 2011

      One killed, 4 others detained by ISAF
      The International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) shot dead a 60-year-old farmer, Syed Mohammad, arrested his two sons and as many other nephews on Saturday night in the Maidanak village of Spin Ghar district, said tribal elder Malak Osman.

      Sunday, 09 October 2011 11:52
      On Friday, militants attacked a foreign military base in the province. During clashes with international troops, 25 insurgents died, Nato said. The militants targeted US-led troops near the border with Pakistan as Afghanistan and the United States marked the 10th anniversary of the US bombing campaign that forced the Taliban from power in late 2001.
      One killed, 4 others detained by ISAF

      Over the weekend some 35 Afghans were killed. Most of them pashtuns, while ****mitar and lenin were sitting from the comfort of their homes bad mouthing these people.

      Clearly the real terrorists in Afghanistan are the US. They are provoking the people to take desperate measures.

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      • #63
        repeating the same circular argument over again won't make it come true

        you've turned into a brainwashed Pakistani stooge version of Toramana.

        The truth is the reason it's not clear to Afghans who's side to choose is because on one hand you have Imperialists who slaughter them trying to get Taliban,and then you have Taliban killing them trying to get NATO. It has notHing to do with this emotional black mail of exploiting religion in some sort of Fanatical Christian End times delusion you live in. So no Jihad is NOT fard when both sides are tyrannizing and oppressing them, because if you fight one you help the other. I seriously doubt the average Afghan thinks a suicide bomber who murdered their wife and kids when they were going to the Bazaar is fighting for Muslims anymore than a NATO airstrike that levels their village

        But like the phony Munafiq, charlatan you are;you'll try to deceive and emotionally black mail the population with this false Bush-Doctrine of "you're either for Taliban or for NATO/U.S. Imperialism" to dissuade them from criticiizing your heresies, and compel them into complying into your deranged and deceitful cause.


        and please stop using the propaganda bantering of Ethnicity; I never thought you'd stoop that low; but in desperation I've seen you toss religion out the window for personal agendas. Nevermind the fact that YOU ARE TAJIK, why are you so concerned about Pashtuns as an ethnicity vs. Muslims as a whole?

        You're not only an enemy of Afghans, but an enemy of all Muslims; we're tired of Fanatics like you, you've chosen death, and we hope you get what you choose, we've chosen life.

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        • #64
          Al-Chemist, you are absolutely right that this person is a fraud and an imposter----and an imposter...a glaring fact...Now that you've tuned against him, you are my brother...

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          • #65
            aww look the The Fanatic Pakistani Slaves and Toramana have joined forces

            why isn't this a surprise?

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Toramana View Post
              Al-Chemist, you are absolutely right that this person is a fraud and an imposter----and an imposter...a glaring fact...Now that you've tuned against him, you are my brother...
              Look Look... changing his colour

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              • #67
                All ****mitar is good at is slandering people.

                Pakistani people are 10 times better than this americanized fool who fails at pretending to be a pashtun. His idea of being pashtun is showing male chauvinism, calling others gays and homesexual and shooting corny pick up lines at the ladies. He calls everyone else a munafiq and a heratic, yet none of his views are supported by Muslim Ulama, and he even tells us to reject the Ulama because they are hegemonic and "irrational".

                This man is a walking contradiction. Sick in the head. Twisted from listening to all that satanic heavy metal music and horror fantasies fit for young women...


                And just like that he twists everything I say ...it's a pashtun forum - fact. Mostly pashtuns are murdered by US bombs - fact. I am not tajik, technically - fact.
                I also mentioned Iraq, yamin, libya and somalia - muslim countries - fact...but this deceptive fraud makes the false allegation that my argument is to appeal to "ethnicity" and not religion?!

                And isn't that what reality is - the Bush doctrine? The current US administration has made it clear - "You are either with us or against us". Which is exactly why hundreds of Muslims are dying everyday - because these evangelical zionists believe that this the End times and they are in Babylon. They are acting on this belief and slaughtering muslims everywhere...but fools like this ****mitar want to sit on the fence and see how things play out. From his reaction I can assure you that if were born even during the times of the Prophet peace be upon him, and command for Jihad was given - he would have said the same:

                Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post



                You're not only an enemy of Afghans, but an enemy of all Muslims; we're tired of Fanatics like you, you've chosen death, and we hope you get what you choose, we've chosen life.
                And the verse would have come to answer him:

                Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward. 4:74


                "O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place." 9:39

                “They (the disbelievers) love this worldly life more than the Hereafter” (Surah Nahl 16:107)


                of what use is your arabic now?


                Precisely why you are an "intellectual" fraud.

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                • #68
                  di taliban kha ba mani kana,
                  deer gharati yo pakhtana khalak di.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Alchemist View Post
                    So in conclusion, the United States of America has Afghan blood on its hand.
                    They instigated the Russians to invade Afghanistan. They armed the warlords like Hekmatyar, Ismail Khan, Dostum, "Northern Alliance", and now these butchers are in the US administered government headed by US puppet Karzai, and all together they are looting the country. They are killing regular afghans, majority of them pashtuns, and they label them "taliban", "insurgents", terrorists.

                    The United States and its allies should leave Afghanistan and take with her all her warlord cronies. Afghans don't want to be occupied by a foreign force. The Afghan people are fighting back against occupation, and in the process more are dying. However, if the Afghans do not fight against the occupying forces, more will die anyway, and the situation will get worse and worse.
                    Some Lenin-Lover believes that if Afghans stop seeking revenge for the bombs dropped on their villages, then they will ultimately become successful like Japan and Germany. However, what he wants is that Afghans should lose their religion. And heretics like ****mitar will back him and say that jihad is not fard on Afghans because "it is not clear" if the US is an enemy to them. This is an ideological war, a war on Muslims. It is happening in Libya, in Yemen, in Somalia, in Iraq...etc.


                    Here is the latest news:
                    9 October, 2011

                    One killed, 4 others detained by ISAF
                    The International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) shot dead a 60-year-old farmer, Syed Mohammad, arrested his two sons and as many other nephews on Saturday night in the Maidanak village of Spin Ghar district, said tribal elder Malak Osman.

                    Sunday, 09 October 2011 11:52
                    On Friday, militants attacked a foreign military base in the province. During clashes with international troops, 25 insurgents died, Nato said. The militants targeted US-led troops near the border with Pakistan as Afghanistan and the United States marked the 10th anniversary of the US bombing campaign that forced the Taliban from power in late 2001.
                    One killed, 4 others detained by ISAF

                    Over the weekend some 35 Afghans were killed. Most of them pashtuns, while ****mitar and lenin were sitting from the comfort of their homes bad mouthing these people.

                    Clearly the real terrorists in Afghanistan are the US. They are provoking the people to take desperate measures.
                    Alchemist wror i have one question its just been bugging me all day, so i was thinking, when they write that brave afghan pashtuns always defeated every nation and then sit wide and proud and say afghanistan will never allow foreign occupation so who's doing the fighting to get rid of foreign occupation? and would the elders in the past be called the same for resisting? .

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                    • #70
                      am I the only one who ever notices that every Alchemist posting is an exercise in intellectual dishonesty, logical fallacy, distorting the opponents statements, claiming the opponent is saying something other than what they've actually said, and most of all downright hypocrisy.

                      And heretics like ****mitar will back him and say that jihad is not fard on Afghans because
                      he has no qualms calling others heretics but will whine like a spoiled brat that people call him heretic

                      The guy who's quoting the Qur'an and advocating jihad, sits in Canada collecting Canadian welfare, and then working at Subway selling pork.

                      Why didn't he give up the life of this world, when it came to making money from 7arram things And he claims to have rid himself of such money, which is probably a lie; but even the new business he claims to have collects rib'a

                      and the Qur'an says

                      Originally posted by Qur'an Al-Sharif 75
                      Those who eat Ribâ (usury) will not stand (on the Day of Resurrection) except like the standing of a person beaten by Shaitân (Satan) leading him to insanity. That is because they say: "Trading is only like Ribâ (usury)," whereas Allâh has permitted trading and forbidden Ribâ (usury). So whosoever receives an admonition from his Lord and stops eating Ribâ (usury) shall not be punished for the past; his case is for Allâh (to judge); but whoever returns [to Ribâ (usury)], such are the dwellers of the Fire - they will abide therein.
                      This may seem like merely an personal attack, but it's very relevant; the words Achemist uses is aimed at enabling the criminal behavior of those who oppress Muslims both those claiming to fight for Islam, albeit falsely and those who are outrightly fighting Muslims.; he portrays murderers as liberators, while being unwilling to admit BOTH sides the Taliban and NATO are both engaging in crimes. This is why the debate of the Pro-Taliban Idiot crew cannot actually respond back against criticism against the Taliban, because they have to suppose the default position that only someone for NATO would oppose the Taliban; which is false. Hence they carry on fallaciously misrepresenting Opposition to the Taliban. If they acknowledged the fact it's possible and very valid to Oppose BOTh Imperialism and Taliban, then Alchemist and other idiots could not feign credibility of fighting against sell outs, hence they keep the mythology alive while truth has been made plain to them.

                      While Alchemist quotes
                      Originally posted by Qur'an Al Majid verse 9:39
                      "O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place." 9:39
                      he ignores the Tafsir of Surah Al-Tawbah which states that this is in reference to the Battle of Tabuk; where the adversaries of Muslims were clear, the Muslims were being oppressed by a definitive kufar entity, and not Deviants falsely parading as Muslims but murdering Muslims without any regard and Neoimperalists in the form of NATO/U.S and their allies.

                      Originally posted by Qur'an Al Majid 16:107
                      “They (the disbelievers) love this worldly life more than the Hereafter” (Surah Nahl 16:107)
                      And while he quotes such verses; he sits in Canada in comfort and luxury; engrossed in materialism and even celebrating capitalism; himself a boastfully self proclaimed capitalist; the very ideology used to tyrannize Muslims. Strange eh?

                      the Question isn't how we'll answer to such verses; but how does he as he eats Pork and sells it to kufar to satiate their lust for the forbidden? He feels validated that the mentally challenged and ignorant cheer him as a hero; but t isn't that What typical Charlatans usually have as their support base?

                      This isn't about a single person named Alchemist ; but what theyre representing and what fuels the heresies, the immorality and the corruption of the Taliban; is the immorality and corruption of their supporters

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by kakargirl View Post
                        Alchemist wror i have one question its just been bugging me all day, so i was thinking, when they write that brave afghan pashtuns always defeated every nation and then sit wide and proud and say afghanistan will never allow foreign occupation so who's doing the fighting to get rid of foreign occupation? and would the elders in the past be called the same for resisting? .
                        Kakargirl, were the elders indiscriminately killing their own people when they were resisting?

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by kakargirl View Post
                          Alchemist wror i have one question its just been bugging me all day, so i was thinking, when they write that brave afghan pashtuns always defeated every nation and then sit wide and proud and say afghanistan will never allow foreign occupation so who's doing the fighting to get rid of foreign occupation? and would the elders in the past be called the same for resisting? .

                          What has changed is the enemy. The Anglos have been succeeded by the Americans, and they have learned from their failures in the past. They now know how to effectively counter guerilla style fighters. A part of the reason why the current resistance group is accepted as Mujahideen as the previous generation was so easily identified is because the US was the one who gave the original mujahideen of the 70s and 80s their legitimacy - "charlie wilson's war" so to say. In my opinion the CIA, and other covert black ops, and even mercenaries are carrying out horrendous terrorist actions in public places and falsely attributing the incident to some "talibans" without any proofs...

                          for example:
                          Foreign soldier, six civilians killed in Afghanistan - Monsters and Critics

                          Here we are given incomplete information and expected to "fill in the blanks."

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
                            Kakargirl, were the elders indiscriminately killing their own people when they were resisting?
                            false attribution.

                            You cannot possibly know this for a fact...not unless you are god. What about Americans killing Afghans indiscriminately and humiliating them?




                            Last edited by Alchemist; 10-11-2011, 12:53 AM.

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                            • #74
                              but Americans are kufar, theyre expected to be moraless criminals, what is the Taliban's excuse?

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                              • #75
                                Ok. Taliban are kufars too. Happy?

                                Now kufars are fighting kufars, but the kufars who are fighting for their land and their nomose have the right to do so against the aggressors. They have the right to use whatever means necessary to accomplish that goal...and that is all the excuse they need.

                                Do you get it now?

                                No?

                                You want to feel morally superior to everyone for being an armchair warrior ?

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