Why Taliban do what they do and Why Scimitar is an intellectual fraud

[RevolutionThroughReason]

****mitardulledge got served LOL

yeah that's why Alchemist kept going after the rebuttal because I got served, lol

[RevolutionThroughReason]

In your world shooting 14 year old girls is intelligent

[ډګروال]

silent mr schizophrenic ,im reading how Alchemist is serving you.

[ډګروال]

All ****mitar is good at is slandering people.

Pakistani people are 10 times better than this americanized fool who fails at pretending to be a pashtun. His idea of being pashtun is showing male chauvinism, calling others gays and homesexual and shooting corny pick up lines at the ladies. He calls everyone else a munafiq and a heratic, yet none of his views are supported by Muslim Ulama, and he even tells us to reject the Ulama because they are hegemonic and "irrational".

This man is a walking contradiction. Sick in the head. Twisted from listening to all that satanic heavy metal music and horror fantasies fit for young women...


And just like that he twists everything I say ...it's a pashtun forum - fact. Mostly pashtuns are murdered by US bombs - fact. I am not tajik, technically - fact.
I also mentioned Iraq, yamin, libya and somalia - muslim countries - fact...but this deceptive fraud makes the false allegation that my argument is to appeal to "ethnicity" and not religion?!

And isn't that what reality is - the Bush doctrine? The current US administration has made it clear - "You are either with us or against us". Which is exactly why hundreds of Muslims are dying everyday - because these evangelical zionists believe that this the End times and they are in Babylon. They are acting on this belief and slaughtering muslims everywhere...but fools like this ****mitar want to sit on the fence and see how things play out. From his reaction I can assure you that if were born even during the times of the Prophet peace be upon him, and command for Jihad was given - he would have said the same:



And the verse would have come to answer him:

Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward. 4:74


"O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place." 9:39

“They (the disbelievers) love this worldly life more than the Hereafter” (Surah Nahl 16:107)


of what use is your arabic now?


Precisely why you are an "intellectual" fraud.

so true.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Ok haha ..like I said ...you're drawing inspiration, desperately from failed attempts by other forum members to debate me ....I love how he served me in this post

Ok. Taliban are kufars too. Happy?

Now kufars are fighting kufars, but the kufars who are fighting for their land and their nomose have the right to do so against the aggressors. They have the right to use whatever means necessary to accomplish that goal...and that is all the excuse they need.

Do you get it now?

No?

You want to feel morally superior to everyone for being an armchair warrior ?

Basically saying that the Taliban have an excuse in murdering Afghan civilians because America is there. haha

[Friend]

No country on this planet has the right to invade any other state no matter whatever the reason is. Every nation should solve their problems by their own. But they can ask for assistance from any one.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

No country on this planet has the right to invade any other state no matter whatever the reason is. Every nation should solve their problems by their own. But they can ask for assistance from any one.

well technically the Afghan people asked for assistance

[Friend]

well technically the Afghan people asked for assistance

If you consider Karzai and a few elites secular thugs then may be you are right but the 70% of Afghans never asked for any such horrible assistance.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

If you consider Karzai and a few elites secular thugs then may be you are right but the 70% of Afghans never asked for any such horrible assistance.

actually 95% of Afghans asked for help, remember the tribes revolted against the Taliban once the Taliban armaments were destroyed

if your logic was correct then technically the country didn't ask for help from America or Saudi or Pakistan because the government was pro-communist

Most Afghans were against the Taliban, they just had no power to fight back

[Friend]

This is what you Americans think. The ground reality is totally opposite to what you think. You better go to Afghanistan and ask the common lower and middle class and not the elite who are now busy in looting and money laundering and making business abroad.

[KGODB]

This is what you Americans think. The ground reality is totally opposite to what you think. You better go to Afghanistan and ask the common lower and middle class and not the elite who are now busy in looting and money laundering and making business abroad.

if the Afghan people supported the Taliban, their regime would not have disappeared in weeks, their insurgency would not have taken 3 yrs to kick start and it would be on a much greater scale than it is today

[RevolutionThroughReason]

This is what you Americans think. The ground reality is totally opposite to what you think. You better go to Afghanistan and ask the common lower and middle class and not the elite who are now busy in looting and money laundering and making business abroad.

As KGOBD said, if Afghans supported Taliban they would have joined the Taliban to make sure they stay in power and wouldn't have given up in keeping Taliban in power, and resist any invasion, just like they did during the Soviet Invasion, but instead they allowed it and joined in overthrowing them.

these are the facts ON the ground. You are following the ISI fairy tale they made up, just like stories of Mullah Umar reading stale bread while he lived in a fancy house, that's not the Middle or Lower Class.

[khushal]

if the Afghan people supported the Taliban, their regime would not have disappeared in weeks, their insurgency would not have taken 3 yrs to kick start and it would be on a much greater scale than it is today

flip side: If the afghans supported the afghan government, it would not need foriegn soldiers to protect it. After elevan years and billions spent, they still cant stand on their feet.

But your narrative is completely flawed. The Amin government fell in day, The Najib government fell within months after Soviet aid stopped, The Brits reached Kabul as fast as they could march during the first Brits invasion and it took more than 2 years to organize a rebellion. Amanullah was forced out within weeks after the Brits dropped pics of his wife with european leaders, Kalakani lasted a few months before Nadir shah took over. By your logic, after the Brits came into the picture, it seems like every Afghan governments werent supported by the afghan people with the exception of Zahir Shah.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

But that's a false dichotomy because just because you don't support one doesn't mean you support the other.

[khushal]

Taliban are Afghan. whether the afghans support them or not, they must deal with them. Its an internal conflict. Your an outsider, your opinion of who the afghans support only will be validated or invalidated if the conflict is left alone to its own natural course. In the mean time its only your own hypthosis.