American war against Pakistan

[ScimitarXEdge]

Have you heard of a word "China" ?
if not then go and ask some 3 years old student. He will tell you.

China cares about it's economic interests too much to worry about Pakistan..

[Toramana]

So - in your eyes - you want the Farangay to fight Punjabis on behalf of Pashtuns, which means Farangay dropping bombs on FATA with Pakhtuns dying?

P.S. nowhere did I say the Punjabi army has anything to do with Islam, stop attributing things to me which I never said. My people are the biggest victims of the Punjabi army
who raped and massacred and destroyed mosques and Qurans in East Pakistan.

Man, you cannot think beyond "droping bombs on Pashtuns"...Answer the following of my questions;

-Assume, Americans bomb FATA, do you think they are going to target ordinary Pashtuns. If they do so, how is that going to help them achieve their objectives? Answer rationally...Don't be sentimental---Americans may be brutal but at the same time they are manifold more rational than Punjos.

_ Second, how is Pakistan going to respond---Fight America---or take the case to UN GA or Security Council...?

It is not so simple as the arousal of the sentimental spectre of Pashtun homes bombed--This Punjabi non-sense of Pashtun homes being bombed is actually aimed at securing their strategic asset in the form of Taleban and camoflaging Punjabi strategic war in Afghanistan.

[emkhan]

China cares about it's economic interests too much to worry about Pakistan..

Everyone cares of its economic interests that is why China will stand by Pakistan.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Everyone cares of its economic interests that is why China will stand by Pakistan.

yeah ......because we all know that Pakistan is such a money making machine LOL

[emkhan]

yeah ......because we all know that Pakistan is such a money making machine LOL

No dear, Pakistan is not... It is the Pakistani generals and politicians and beaurocrates who make big money...
Pakistan's whole budget is a few billion dollars lol.

[Toramana]

Everyone cares of its economic interests that is why China will stand by Pakistan.

China has strategic concern more important than your Punjo state...They are worried about Taiwan, South China Sea, Tibet, Xingyang (where those infidels are oppressing Muslims but your Punjo eyes cannot see that---Mutalia Pakistan opuim has rubbished your koprai)....And foremost, it cares more about its economic interests ---most of Chinese product end up in the affluent Western countries---not to mention Western investment in China and Chinese investment in the West...

They are not sentimental people like you...They will give a damn if they see backing Pakistan will jeoperdise their vital interests...

This reminds me 1971...When Pakistan was on the verge of defeat, Gen Niazi would call GHQ in Rawalpindi to inquire whether the help is arriving or not and General Gul Hassan the Commander Inchief at that time will tell him '" yajoj majooj" meaning chinese are coming to our help---but they never came...and Pakistan was squarely defeated on both fronts...

[emkhan]

China has strategic concern more important than your Punjo state...They are worried about Taiwan, South China Sea, Tibet, Xingyang (where those infidels are oppressing Muslims but your Punjo eyes cannot see that---Mutalia Pakistan opuim has rubbished your koprai)....And foremost, it cares more about its economic interests ---most of Chinese product end up in the affluent Western countries---not to mention Western investment in China and Chinese investment in the West...

They are not sentimental people like you...

Guy guy guy wake up...
A countries security is more important than any other thing... If a country is secure and soveriegn only then it can trade and do anything else...
thats why every country is using more than 60% of its budget money on its defence... China will never compromise on its security for its trade...
Are you OK ?

[Bengal_Tiger]

Man, you cannot think beyond "droping bombs on Pashtuns"...Answer the following of my questions;

-Assume, Americans bomb FATA, do you think they are going to target ordinary Pashtuns. If they do so, how is that going to help them achieve their objectives? Answer rationally...Don't be sentimental---Americans may be brutal but at the same time they are manifold more rational than Punjos.

_ Second, how is Pakistan going to respond---Fight America---or take the case to UN GA or Security Council...?

It is not so simple as the arousal of the sentimental spectre of Pashtun homes bombed--This Punjabi non-sense of Pashtun homes being bombed is actually aimed at securing their strategic asset in the form of Taleban and camoflaging Punjabi strategic war in Afghanistan.

1. American bombing with "smart missiles" did not live up to their name and killed civilians, with the US coining the term "collateral damage", a typical Anglo-Saxon euphemism.

Drones have killed many innocent Pashtun civilians in FATA, this is in fact the primary reason FATA Pashtuns have turned against the Pakistani state.

The responsibility of any government, including that of a Pashtun one in either an autonomous Khyber-Pashtunkhwa, or an independent Pashtunkhwa is to safeguard the safety and lives of its citizens. Failure to do so is a crime. Complicity in this is an atrocity.

You seem to be essentially saying that Pashtun civilians being killed are an acceptable consequence of a wider goal of removing the "Punjabis".

This is not right. This is not the way of Bacha Khan, or Faqir Ipi, or the way of NANG and GHAIRAT, to accept Pashtun civilians being killed by Farangay.

As for Americans targeting Pashtun civilians, the Americans are not as rational and wonderful as you potray them. They carried out Abu Ghraib, the bombing of Hiroshima after the Japanese had agreed to surrender, the destruction of Iraq with babies now being born deformed with no eyes. They are a civilization built on wholescale genocide who wiped out the native Indians deliberately, something even the Spaniards in Mexico did not, contrary to the propaganda of "diseases" killing of native Indians, which just so funnily did not happen on the same land mass in Spanish-ruled Mexico.

For the Americans, and for you and Punjabis, a few Pashtun civilians killed is no big deal, and is "collateral damage".


2. Using the Farangay, the US to bomb Pashtunkhwa is not the only way to defeat the Punjabis there are other ways. Gadoonwal is a proud Pashtun nationalist and dislikes Punjabis he can come here and tell you there are other ways, it is be-nang, and be-ghairat to rely on baby-killing Farangay.

Pashtuns can fight and don't need others to do that for them, as the ANP in Karachi have shown.

The ANP officially condemned drone strikes in FATA anyway.

This is my last reply to you on this thread, from now on I will be ignoring all comments from posters and merely posting information and analysis.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Bengal Tigress ......I'm happy you oppose U.S. Imperialism, I do too , it is evil and cunning ad exploitative

but tell me what is your assessment of the Taliban who tyrannize Pashtuns the same way ...do you not agree there are better ways to fight Imperialism than the Taliban?

[checkmate]

Ok, so they attack Pakistan. Lets assume Pakistan is bombed all over. Ok, so you think everything will be fine and dandy?

Lol, you all know that Pakistan, has missiles that have like a 3000 mile range, right?

I say its good they have been forced to end their slavery.

LOL, seriously guys. Its the same as Iran and North Korea. These countries possess Inter Ballistic Missiles and cruise missiles with wide ranges.

[emkhan]

Bengal Tigress ......I'm happy you oppose U.S. Imperialism, I do too , it is evil and cunning ad exploitative

but tell me what is your assessment of the Taliban who tyrannize Pashtuns the same way ...do you not agree there are better ways to fight Imperialism than the Taliban?

Rather than asking him the same question again and again, you should understand the reason...
There was no talib before the Russian and american invasion... so its all a reaction and reactionary elements

[Manzareh]

I sincerely hope that the US will NOT wage war against Pakistan. I want to see US, Australian and any other allied troops pulled out of Afghanistan, we have no business there.


With Yuletide (aka Christmas, though as an atheist I prefer to use the ancient pagan name) approaching fast, I would like to see the world come together in friendship for once. How difficult is it to reach out to the person standing next to you and say, "I love you brother" or "I love you sister", does it really matter if they practice a different religion to you? Does it really matter what their appearance is, do we not all have the same aspirations in life, the same needs for food, shelter and love? Do we not all feel physical pain? Do we not all feel happiness and elation when a child is born and the depths of sadness when a loved one is taken from us?


Are we not all brothers and sisters who share a common destiny on this tiny blue and green sphere?


Please, no more war.

Wow you use the pagan name, i guess you take the birth of Jesus pretty seriously, may i ask you if you believe that the birth of jesus is on the 25th of december?

anyway, i agree you no more war...however i personally also think America wants..sorry NEEDS to take control over a place bordering china, for security, resorces, geographical location of the place and the strategic value it holds that FATA is just on the wrong location on the world map as far as america is concerned. its an obsitcal in their there thieving eyes.

[ScimitarXEdge]

isn't strange that beads of sweat are falling off these Taliban supporters heads when the idea of Pakistan being threatened

strangely enough Bengal Tiger including; I thought he was a sincere bengali, but turns out he's a talibanized nutjob who's probably brainwashed by Wahhabis.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Rather than asking him the same question again and again, you should understand the reason...
There was no talib before the Russian and american invasion... so its all a reaction and reactionary elements

everything's a reacton, but not every reaction is a valid excuse.

[checkmate]

isn't strange that beads of sweat are falling off these Taliban supporters heads when the idea of Pakistan being threatened

strangely enough Bengal Tiger including; I thought he was a sincere bengali, but turns out he's a talibanized nutjob who's probably brainwashed by Wahhabis.

I highly doubt Afghans in FATA have beads of sweat falling from their forehead.

You, see this is exactly what many wanted from the get go. They want US to war with Pakistan.

I think it is good that Graham made threats of war today, it finally pushes those slaves in a corner so they can not be slaves any longer.