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A decade after 9/11, there is widespread talk of an American attack against "militants" on Pakistani territory.
1. The Pakistani foreign secretary has warned the US not to carry such an attack.
2. A senior Senator has said if such an attack is carried out in FATA, it will make the US forget about Vietnam.
Will America attack FATA, will this escalate in to an all out America v Pakistan war.
Or will it turn into a TTP v Pakistan & America war?
The Pakistani blogosphere is alight, seriously speaking about an invasion to their country. I will post quotes and links. All forum posts are by Pakistanis unless stated.
Senate’s Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs Chairman Senator Saleem Saifullah has said that the US will forget Vietnam if it tried to venture out in Waziristan...He said that the government was evacuating schools and hospitals in the Federally Administrated Tribal Areas, indicating that something was about to happen
http://www.dunyanews.tv/index.php?ke...SNOaWQ9NDEyMDA=
1. The Pakistani foreign secretary has warned the US not to carry such an attack.
2. A senior Senator has said if such an attack is carried out in FATA, it will make the US forget about Vietnam.
Will America attack FATA, will this escalate in to an all out America v Pakistan war.
Or will it turn into a TTP v Pakistan & America war?
The Pakistani blogosphere is alight, seriously speaking about an invasion to their country. I will post quotes and links. All forum posts are by Pakistanis unless stated.
Senate’s Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs Chairman Senator Saleem Saifullah has said that the US will forget Vietnam if it tried to venture out in Waziristan...He said that the government was evacuating schools and hospitals in the Federally Administrated Tribal Areas, indicating that something was about to happen
http://www.dunyanews.tv/index.php?ke...SNOaWQ9NDEyMDA=
if ever the states does decide to attack it will be with their air force . they will destroy the Pakistani military infrastructure and they wont need boots on the ground for that .
Indian Poster, post 12, http://www.defence.pk/forums/u-s-for...acks-fata.html
Indian Poster, post 12, http://www.defence.pk/forums/u-s-for...acks-fata.html
The USA does have the Power to Invade Pakistan however it would be a Bloodbath.
Syrian Christian poster, 62 http://www.defence.pk/forums/u-s-for...ks-fata-5.html
There is no need for Pakistan to attack the US, the damage caused by a full scale confrontation against Pakistan in Afghanistan & the nearby regions will suffice.
Post 67
they may bomb us to the ''stone age'' but they got troops garrisons in Afghanistan we will storm the porous border by the millions and shove our Aks up their @$$ and dude to the west we have the Balochs and Pathans for whom war is a temptation......
Post, 144
And to those who keep saying that Pakistan would defeat America.....I say sweet dreams.
Post 145
I in no way insinuated Pakistan is looking to start a war with the US, but if the US does initiate a war with Pakistan, it just wouldn't be able to handle it. Pakistanis are used to tough conditions already, I don't the American people would be prepared for the consequences of such an event. The US cannot quite simply 'afford' to get into war with Pakistan.
Post 187
US isn't going to attack Pakistan because they simply don't need too. And if they do, that will be on a limited scale like they did in case of Osama and the only thing we Pakistanis are going to do about it is repeat the same thing " if this happens again, we will keep our options open" lol. We need to understand something, our army, government, every one in the bureaucracy from top to bottom is in bed with the US. I will be really surprised if our government and the army hasn't already given them a nod. The hot air from our side is usually for public consumption.
Post 189
There is another thread titled:
HOW TO DEAL AGAINST A POSSIBLE US INVASION OF PAKISTAN
Syrian Christian poster, 62 http://www.defence.pk/forums/u-s-for...ks-fata-5.html
There is no need for Pakistan to attack the US, the damage caused by a full scale confrontation against Pakistan in Afghanistan & the nearby regions will suffice.
Post 67
they may bomb us to the ''stone age'' but they got troops garrisons in Afghanistan we will storm the porous border by the millions and shove our Aks up their @$$ and dude to the west we have the Balochs and Pathans for whom war is a temptation......
Post, 144
And to those who keep saying that Pakistan would defeat America.....I say sweet dreams.
Post 145
I in no way insinuated Pakistan is looking to start a war with the US, but if the US does initiate a war with Pakistan, it just wouldn't be able to handle it. Pakistanis are used to tough conditions already, I don't the American people would be prepared for the consequences of such an event. The US cannot quite simply 'afford' to get into war with Pakistan.
Post 187
US isn't going to attack Pakistan because they simply don't need too. And if they do, that will be on a limited scale like they did in case of Osama and the only thing we Pakistanis are going to do about it is repeat the same thing " if this happens again, we will keep our options open" lol. We need to understand something, our army, government, every one in the bureaucracy from top to bottom is in bed with the US. I will be really surprised if our government and the army hasn't already given them a nod. The hot air from our side is usually for public consumption.
Post 189
There is another thread titled:
HOW TO DEAL AGAINST A POSSIBLE US INVASION OF PAKISTAN
Lately there has been a lot of talk about US invasion of FATA.
We could of course say that it would never happen(i wish it were true) but keeping US track record in mind it is very possible.
So now the question arises what would be our reaction if US invades FATA. How can we defend ourselves ?
Post post 1, http://www.defence.pk/forums/u-s-for...-pakistan.html
We could of course say that it would never happen(i wish it were true) but keeping US track record in mind it is very possible.
So now the question arises what would be our reaction if US invades FATA. How can we defend ourselves ?
Post post 1, http://www.defence.pk/forums/u-s-for...-pakistan.html
@ thread, I don't think US going to attack Pakistan. Looking at current US situation, that is terrible position of economy, stucked badly in wars, jobless people in US, increasing poverty, etc, it is impossible for US to attack world's 7th powerful country with huge professional army, world's powerful intelligence agency, heavily populated, for atleast 4 decades.
Post 16
Its a very serious matter. What are our options if US invades FATA. Would we remain quiet just like the way we do on drones or OBL raid.
Post 19
I don't think so. Currently US is having serious economic crises, it's debt has equal it's GDP, companies are closing & alot of jobless people are there in US, poverty is increasing. So today Americans are eager to hear anything related to jobs creation instead of opening a new war front & that also with a massive military power. It will not only be a political suicide but like US will hit its own foot by loosing more billions, increase of debts on US, death of soilders & most importantly US will loose it's strategic ally.
Post 26
America would not invade Pakistan, because they don't have legitimate reason to do so. The Abbottabad raid was only tolerated due to the "Bin Laden" factor. Otherwise America invading Pakistan would be violating international laws, Pakistan's sovereignty and a declaration of war!
Post 27
If americans set foot on FATA and our army chooses to retaliates well then i guess it would be full fledge war and owing to our lack of long range nuclear delivery vehicles we would be the losers.
Post 31
IF it did happen. God have mercy on Pakistan.
Post 37
Yes US is ahead quality wise, but in quantity US has around 1,400,000 troops while Pakistan has around 850,000. US won't bring whole 1.4 troops to fight Pakistan whereas Pakistan has it's mainland there.
Only a person who is totally fool will even think that US is going to attack a powerful country as Pakistan in current situation, in my opinion US will choose to calm things down & will talk to Pakistan & perhaps increase the money for the services Pakistan does for US
Post 54
Americans are liars and theives but not stupid. Americans could probably invade any country in the world. Pakistan is safe not because they would be able to beat americans but they would be able to give them a few more casulties than than a few rag tag afghans
Post 62 (have to agree the US regime are indeed liars and thieves)
If Pakistan is attacked they will respond against its enemies with all its force and that may include nuclear option.
Post 64
Yeah, easy for you to say, your probably all cozy living somewhere in punjab and you can care less for the millions of People who would be killed in the event of an invasion of FATA.
The likes of your kind consider the people of FATA and KybherPakhtunkhwa as cannon fodder, but sorry to disappoint you because they are not.
Post 77
neither india nor america would dare to invade pakistan. The only place this happens is on forums
Post 100
its speculation america wont. Pakistanis have options we are not afghanis or iraqis we have a significant population.
Post 121
The USA could Invade Pakistan but the problems are here compared to both Afghan and Iraq, Pakistani population is 10'x bigger 180 million the iraqi and afghan population combined is 44 mill, the USA had difficultly trying to to get the Insurgency in Iraq under control from a few thousand militants so an Insurgency in Pakistan would be Worse then Vietnam, I've been to Karachi, Lahore, Islamabad and several other places and it's not hard to get a gun, next the Pakistani army is far better then Iraqi army and most of the middle east, invasion would unite the Whole country, it took about 250,000 US troops to hold Iraq, the Idea of Holding Pakistan would be around 3 million or more, not to mention both China and Iran would aid Pakistan, Invading Pakistan yes the USA could but it would be stupid the lives lost would make it hell on earth.
Syrian Christian, post 133.
it has no attention of invading pakistan,you have seen libya use the same methodology against pakistan it won't take long for a civil war.many way's to destroy a country then war.
British poster, 138
KARACHI: Pakistan Ambassador in UN Abdullah Hussain Haroon warned that if Pakistan would be attacked then the reaction would be counter productive, Geo News reported Saturday.
http://www.thenews.com.pk/NewsDetail...-of-Pak-attack-
Washington, Sept 24 : The US needs Pakistan to continue its war against terrorism, and therefore the Americans should chase the Haqqanis whenever and wherever they can without provoking Islamabad, a New York Times editorial has said.
Post 7, http://forum.pakistanidefence.com/in...howtopic=95982
Post 16
Its a very serious matter. What are our options if US invades FATA. Would we remain quiet just like the way we do on drones or OBL raid.
Post 19
I don't think so. Currently US is having serious economic crises, it's debt has equal it's GDP, companies are closing & alot of jobless people are there in US, poverty is increasing. So today Americans are eager to hear anything related to jobs creation instead of opening a new war front & that also with a massive military power. It will not only be a political suicide but like US will hit its own foot by loosing more billions, increase of debts on US, death of soilders & most importantly US will loose it's strategic ally.
Post 26
America would not invade Pakistan, because they don't have legitimate reason to do so. The Abbottabad raid was only tolerated due to the "Bin Laden" factor. Otherwise America invading Pakistan would be violating international laws, Pakistan's sovereignty and a declaration of war!
Post 27
If americans set foot on FATA and our army chooses to retaliates well then i guess it would be full fledge war and owing to our lack of long range nuclear delivery vehicles we would be the losers.
Post 31
IF it did happen. God have mercy on Pakistan.
Post 37
Yes US is ahead quality wise, but in quantity US has around 1,400,000 troops while Pakistan has around 850,000. US won't bring whole 1.4 troops to fight Pakistan whereas Pakistan has it's mainland there.
Only a person who is totally fool will even think that US is going to attack a powerful country as Pakistan in current situation, in my opinion US will choose to calm things down & will talk to Pakistan & perhaps increase the money for the services Pakistan does for US
Post 54
Americans are liars and theives but not stupid. Americans could probably invade any country in the world. Pakistan is safe not because they would be able to beat americans but they would be able to give them a few more casulties than than a few rag tag afghans
Post 62 (have to agree the US regime are indeed liars and thieves)
If Pakistan is attacked they will respond against its enemies with all its force and that may include nuclear option.
Post 64
Yeah, easy for you to say, your probably all cozy living somewhere in punjab and you can care less for the millions of People who would be killed in the event of an invasion of FATA.
The likes of your kind consider the people of FATA and KybherPakhtunkhwa as cannon fodder, but sorry to disappoint you because they are not.
Post 77
neither india nor america would dare to invade pakistan. The only place this happens is on forums
Post 100
its speculation america wont. Pakistanis have options we are not afghanis or iraqis we have a significant population.
Post 121
The USA could Invade Pakistan but the problems are here compared to both Afghan and Iraq, Pakistani population is 10'x bigger 180 million the iraqi and afghan population combined is 44 mill, the USA had difficultly trying to to get the Insurgency in Iraq under control from a few thousand militants so an Insurgency in Pakistan would be Worse then Vietnam, I've been to Karachi, Lahore, Islamabad and several other places and it's not hard to get a gun, next the Pakistani army is far better then Iraqi army and most of the middle east, invasion would unite the Whole country, it took about 250,000 US troops to hold Iraq, the Idea of Holding Pakistan would be around 3 million or more, not to mention both China and Iran would aid Pakistan, Invading Pakistan yes the USA could but it would be stupid the lives lost would make it hell on earth.
Syrian Christian, post 133.
it has no attention of invading pakistan,you have seen libya use the same methodology against pakistan it won't take long for a civil war.many way's to destroy a country then war.
British poster, 138
KARACHI: Pakistan Ambassador in UN Abdullah Hussain Haroon warned that if Pakistan would be attacked then the reaction would be counter productive, Geo News reported Saturday.
http://www.thenews.com.pk/NewsDetail...-of-Pak-attack-
Washington, Sept 24 : The US needs Pakistan to continue its war against terrorism, and therefore the Americans should chase the Haqqanis whenever and wherever they can without provoking Islamabad, a New York Times editorial has said.
Post 7, http://forum.pakistanidefence.com/in...howtopic=95982
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