Pakistan: Haqqani Militant Network Has Ties With Government, Ambassador

[Michin Khel]

Ashraf pa ji, schimitar and randolph are genuine afghans, i give more importance to their point of views than yours. You do not know pashto or dari and you are of unknown origin, sorry i cant trust you.

[gadoonwal]

When people do not like what you say, they start doing this. Im interrogated by a Masoodovsky supporter Randolph, and now a very proud Pakistani nationalist, you.

My father is Ahmadzai. His grandfather is from Paktia. This is not news as many Pashtuns in Balochistan are from across the fake line. There are even (Uzbeks and Hazaras there, and some Tajiks there. They settled in a shanty town near Torah shah. my family now is all in the city. I can understand Pashto and urdu to a certain extent, but thats all. I can not speak or write it, and I will not make a fool out of myself like Scimitar to prove I can.

The majority of Pashtuns in Quetta, and extensively, the whole Balochistan province are migrant Pashtuns. Only Qasi and Khattaks are original to the area. You can find Maseeds and Wazirs, Kharoti, and so many more there. The list can go on forever. In fact, I think Quetta has every Pashtun tribe represented there.

This is how you have many tribes from within Afghanistan proper there. You can find many who are even originally from Kandahar. Again, this is not news at all.

I do not consider it a part of Pakistan. Why should a British imposed line mean anything?

zwana,,since you can not speak pashtu and know very little about hteir place of origin.
so here we go.The pashtuns in south-pashtunkhwa (pashtun part of baluchistan) are not all migrants.For example the nasirkhel of loralai are originally pawonda tribe moving around now settled in loralai but their original home is waziristan.
According to many historains pashtuns originated from the mountain of zjob.
Most of them are the native of that land but i aggree some of them came from kandahar.
This was one country before from queta to kandaar.
On the other side the pashtun of peshawar valley and sarounding mountains are all migrated from afghanistan such as khalil,momand,mohdzais,yousufzais,jadoons,tarklani ,swati,khatak etc.

[gadoonwal]

What the heck, Quetta is in afghanistan? And really do you claim to be from Quetta?
Dude the thing is that here is Pashtun-baloch tension in balochistan. Pashtuns of balochistan have welcomed large number of afghan refugees and have helped them in getting Pakistani citizenship for a simple reason: to increase pashtun population further in balochistan. Now balochs are minority in their own province.
If you are a quettawal then what is your tribe? Why you dont know pashto?

queta and the entire pashtunkhwa watan was once part of greater afghanistan/pashtunkhwa you can not deny the fact.
Please do,nt trust the history books written by pakistani scholers in the last 60 years to promote their fake history and misguide pashtuns.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Ashraf pa ji, schimitar and randolph are genuine afghans, i give more importance to their point of views than yours. You do not know pashto or dari and you are of unknown origin, sorry i cant trust you.

well his name WAS UnknownPrince

[ScimitarXEdge]

queta and the entire pashtunkhwa watan was once part of greater afghanistan/pashtunkhwa you can not deny the fact.
Please do,nt trust the history books written by pakistani scholers in the last 60 years to promote their fake history and misguide pashtuns.

well in that case almost all of Northern India and Eastern Iran were also Afghanistan at one time.

Currently they're under Pakistan's authority and are apart of Pakistan.

[Michin Khel]

queta and the entire pashtunkhwa watan was once part of greater afghanistan/pashtunkhwa you can not deny the fact.
Please do,nt trust the history books written by pakistani scholers in the last 60 years to promote their fake history and misguide pashtuns.

Indeed they were part of afghanistan. Infact northren balochistan has remained more with afghanistan than KP but curruntly the area is part of Pakistan. And you wont deny this that while balochs have completely become anti-pakistanis, pashtuns there are quiet and neutral and are considered as pro-pakistanis by pakistani authorities. I am not saying this out of my stomach, this is told me by my classfellow who belong to zhob and have migrated from bolan medical college.

[unknownprince]

Ashraf pa ji, schimitar and randolph are genuine afghans, i give more importance to their point of views than yours. You do not know pashto or dari and you are of unknown origin, sorry i cant trust you.

ok,

there are no Kakars that are native to Balochistan.

ANP never sent Maseeds and Wazirs to Quetta.

Keep this Pakistani History to yourself.

You are Pakistani

[unknownprince]

Indeed they were part of afghanistan. Infact northren balochistan has remained more with afghanistan than KP but curruntly the area is part of Pakistan. And you wont deny this that while balochs have completely become anti-pakistanis, pashtuns there are quiet and neutral and are considered as pro-pakistanis by pakistani authorities. I am not saying this out of my stomach, this is told me by my classfellow who belong to zhob and have migrated from bolan medical college.

First of all, in Pakistan, some people can buy themselves into medical colleges. A pakistani resident I know told me this.

Your friend from Zhob. You always have friends from certain places to back up your BS points.

Did he also tell you Zhob at sometimes does not get electricity for DAYS??

It is the hardest hit.

Quetta was never part of Pakistan in the first place. No British made line made a difference./

Majority of Pashtun in Quetta are migrants. Every Pashtun tribe is represented in Quetta to some extent.

And people there mostly identify themselves as Afghans.

[unknownprince]

zwana,,since you can not speak pashtu and know very little about hteir place of origin.
so here we go.The pashtuns in south-pashtunkhwa (pashtun part of baluchistan) are not all migrants.For example the nasirkhel of loralai are originally pawonda tribe moving around now settled in loralai but their original home is waziristan.
According to many historains pashtuns originated from the mountain of zjob.
Most of them are the native of that land but i aggree some of them came from kandahar.
This was one country before from queta to kandaar.
On the other side the pashtun of peshawar valley and sarounding mountains are all migrated from afghanistan such as khalil,momand,mohdzais,yousufzais,jadoons,tarklani ,swati,khatak etc.

what Luffy is doing is trying to say that these Pashtuns love Pakistan. There is a very big difference between where he is and where I doubt he has ever been. Quetta is one of the most conservative places in what is presently called Pakistan. The culture there is completely anti to the secular bollywood culture that is in other parts of Pakistan, and that he enjoys quite well. Pakistani medicial students especially attend drinking parties on a regular basis, and dance parties too. One should ask it he does?

There is no cultural similarity at all. It houses many of the best mosques in the region.

this is true, I did not say or claim to know about tirbal dynamics. It was one country, and migration to that area of many tribes from all over has happened for a very long time, even when it was all part of one Afghanistan.

Many Pashtuns there consider themselves Afghans. This is fact as night and day, and no Pakistani medical student like Luffy can deny this by just saying it- it means nothing. And then to try to discredit me by pointing to the fact that I don't speak pashto- looks like this Paki is learning from the other two pimps here.

yeah yeah, everyone knows Yousafzai migrated from Kandahar originally. Point is Quetta has been a place of migration of many Pashtun tribes when it was all one, and when the line was made. It made no difference. If you want to know where feelings for uniting with Afghanistan are strong, it is in Quetta.

Point is, Pashtuns do not recognize the line, and so that is why so many tribes are represented in Quetta. You can find anyone there from a Maseed to Yousafzai to Ahmadzai

[unknownprince]

well his name WAS UnknownPrince

^who himself speaks very little Pashto jumped up for a second there didn't he.

OHH, you have a new friend, a Hindkowaan .

[unknownprince]

from a discussion on the retarded claims by a US ambassador to pakistan in trying to deny Afghan right to self determination to talking about peoples sisters to what I am to saying Pashtuns in Pak are happy and love Pakistan. What bull**** topic changing

[ScimitarXEdge]

^who himself speaks very little Pashto jumped up for a second there didn't he.

OHH, you have a new friend, a Hindkowaan .

you're a racist jack ass you know that?

[unknownprince]

no, I am not. He is trying to say Im not Pashtun because he hates that I exposed the problems Pashtun face, and because I don't speak pashto.

You see these people like him don't want to know of the problems.

Again, I will direct you to Zhob. Pakistan cuts of electricity to Zhob for days at times.

Why I say it is Afghanistan? Because it faces similar problems like Afghanistan.

So its okay to cut of electricity to Zhob, but Lahore and Islamabad have electricity all the time. Get my drift>

He is trying to say I am not Pashtun, then I will talk about the fact that he is Hindkowaan. Fair enough?

Wouldn't you agree?

And, brother, I thought we were going to refrain from this stupidity, but you seem all too eager to always argue.

Isn't this getting trite. It was better when you destroyed toramana,. There is only one group against hegemony in Afghanistan, and it is not Karzai/spanta

[ScimitarXEdge]

from a discussion on the retarded claims by a US ambassador to pakistan in trying to deny Afghan right to self determination to talking about peoples sisters to what I am to saying Pashtuns in Pak are happy and love Pakistan. What bull**** topic changing

Stop trying to smokescreen; you know the reason why the subject is even here is because you accuse others of being Uncle Toms; when you send your own to their religious and cultural institutions.

we just catch you with your pants down (its a metaphor so dont get aroused like you would in your Talib pederast safehaven) ....its to demonstrate what a huge hypocrite you are, and how you contradict everything you say.

It also shows how morally corrupt and logically inane all your arguments and the Taliban cause is. If youre a representative of the Talibs, what does it say about the Talibs?

[ScimitarXEdge]

no, I am not. He is trying to say Im not Pashtun because he hates that I exposed the problems Pashtun face. You see these people like him don't want to know of the problems.

Again, I will direct you to Zhob. Pakistan cuts of electricity to Zhob for days at times.

Why I say it is Afghanistan? Because it faces similar problems like Afghanistan.

So its okay to cut of electricity to Zhob, but Lahore and Islamabad have electricity all the time. Get my drift>

He is trying to say I am not Pashtun, then I will talk about the fact that he is Hindkowaan. Fair enough?

Wouldn't you agree?

And, brother, I thought we were going to refrain from this stupidity, but you seem all too eager to always argue.

But he's not a Hindkowan, he can speak Pashto better than you can.


You're calling me brother now; but I'm not a brother to anyone who thinks that people who blow themselves up around innocent Muslims are heroes fighting for Allah(swt). Allah shuns such people.