Legend of Massoud Flourishes, but Can’t Bridge an Afghan Chasm

[ScimitarXEdge]

By your logic,
This guy openly admits to betray the Iranian, syrian, egyptian, saudi slaves who kill civilians on both sides to help his people break free from slavery.

As you can see from this official document there are others as well. see how hamas master syria arrests those that want to break their people free from slavery.

Hamas official accused of helping Mossad hit squad | World news | The Guardian

That's not what he says though in the quote I made, and plus he actually helps military actions against Palestinians; Azizullah didn't help military aggressions against the Taliban, rather he wants to negotiate and include them into society.

where as Israel wants to conquer and rule the area.

The parameters are incongruous on every level you actually defeated your own argument and debunked yourself.

[MohannaD]

Arabs have been treacherous for a long time. they joined the French and British, and brought down the Ottoman Khilafa.

Their history is full of such treachery.

You can't generalize . Plus plese read about what used to happen during the Ottoman period, it wasn't a golden time .
I take my words back if this stuff was made up .

[khushal]

That's not what he says though in the quote I made, and plus he actually helps military actions against Palestinians; Azizullah didn't help military aggressions against the Taliban, rather he wants to negotiate and include them into society.

where as Israel wants to conquer and rule the area.

The parameters are incongruous on every level you actually defeated your own argument and debunked yourself.

you have defeated your own argument.
in your own logic,
not against the palistinian people but the slaves of iran,syria, egypt, saudi called hamas who does nothing but kill palistinian civilians.

hamas and israel are equally bad for the palistinians people, both are terrorizing the palistinian people. They are being used and abused as a buffer by the other arab states and israel itself.
The Cutting Edge News

here is what hamas thinks of palistinian soldiers, instead of using their life to protecting children, they use the childrens lives to protect themselves
hamas using boy as human shield - YouTube

another hamas apologist debunked

[ScimitarXEdge]

Nonie Darwish (Arabic: نوني درويش) (born 1949[1][2]) is an Egyptian-American human rights activist, and founder of Arabs For Israel, and is Director of Former Muslims United. She is the author of two books: Now They Call Me Infidel; Why I Renounced Jihad for America, Israel and the War on Terror and Cruel and Usual Punishment: The Terrifying Global Implications of Islamic Law. Darwish's speech topics cover human rights, with emphasis on women's rights and minority rights in the Middle East. Born in Egypt, Darwish is the daughter of an Egyptian Army lieutenant general, who was called a "shahid" by the Egyptian president Gamal Abdel Nasser,[3] after being killed in a targeted killing in 1956. Darwish blames "the Middle Eastern Islamic culture and the propaganda of hatred taught to children from birth" for his death. In 1978, she moved with her husband to the United States, and converted to Christianity there. After the September 11, 2001 attacks, she has written on Islam-related topics.[3]

not a credible source since she has an explicitly stated agenda to attack Muslims or anything Islamic.

and showing a HAMAS guy grabbing a kid and moving him out of the way is not really convincing as using someone as a Human shield requires you to put them in front of you, not away from you.

especially compared to something like this ......


Taliban killing innocent people. Nangarhar Afghanistan - YouTube


you keep trying but digging yourself into a bigger hole Khushal.

[gadoonwal]

Some people ar changing every thread for their own agenda.
Why bringing arabs into this discussion.?
Ahmad shah masood is dead now and part of history.
He failed to unite the nation and that lead the afghan into civil war.
Some people are using his name for their political agenda.
He was ,nt that evil like karzai.
Many afghan died in the war so one person can not be a national hero.
leave the dead man in peace after he was muslim.

[khushal]

and showing a HAMAS guy grabbing a kid and moving him out of the way is not really convincing as using someone as a Human shield requires you to put them in front of you, not away from you.

It still does not negate the facts on how the other Arabs states use and abuse the palistinians and how Hamas is used for that purpose.

moving him out of the way of what, he grabbed the kid so Israeli soldiers wont shoot at him moving from one group of unarmed civilians to another group of civilians and feared while running from one group to another group of civilians, he grabs the kid to save himself.

here they are torturing their own people.
Hamas brutality against Fatah on Palestinian TV - PA public - YouTube

[ScimitarXEdge]

It still does not negate the facts on how the other Arabs states use and abuse the palistinians and how Hamas is used for that purpose.

moving him out of the way of what, he grabbed the kid so Israeli soldiers wont shoot at him moving from one group of unarmed civilians to another group of civilians and feared while running from one group to another group of civilians, he grabs the kid to save himself.

here they are torturing their own people.
Hamas brutality against Fatah on Palestinian TV - PA public - YouTube

It does considering that they're NOT targeting their own civilians.

ok HAMAS's brutality against Fatah....again targeting combatants. NOT civilians.

You have posted like 10 videos and each one has either gross ambiguity, nothing determining the HAMAS is involved, or they're testimonies of people who VOCAL agendas against Muslims and Palestinians. The video you posted shows a guy moving a child to group of other children ....makes no sense to use a human shield when you're moving them away from their body.

HAMAS aren't the Taliban, they have some semblance of morals....only target the guilty

Pashtun Taliban Murder Mother Then RAPE Her Three Daughters - YouTube

[randolph85]

^ dont u know, those crimes committed by the taliban are ok because they say they are muslims and thats enough for the people here to pretend it didn't happen.

[khushal]

It does considering that they're NOT targeting their own civilians.

ok HAMAS's brutality against Fatah....again targeting combatants. NOT civilians.

You have posted like 10 videos and each one has either gross ambiguity, nothing determining the HAMAS is involved, or they're testimonies of people who VOCAL agendas against Muslims and Palestinians. The video you posted shows a guy moving a child to group of other children ....makes no sense to use a human shield when you're moving them away from their body.

HAMAS aren't the Taliban, they have some semblance of morals....only target the guilty

He is not moving him away from his body. he knows he is the target so he picks up the child so the israeli soldiers wont shoot at him. You have refuted none of the videos or articles nor have you refuted why hamas uses suicide bombers against civilians, nor have you refuted why hamas uses civilian institutions to launch attacks forcing the israelis to shoot at those civilian institutions.
Notice how the slaves of syria keep mum while its master attacks its people
Hamas Keeps Mum as Syria Assaults Palestinian Refugee Camp « Commentary Magazine

[khushal]

^ dont u know, those crimes committed by the taliban are ok because they say they are muslims and thats enough for the people here to pretend it didn't happen.

who said its ok randolph. you and sxe think hamas crimes are ok even though the leaders own son is speaking against hamas crimes and is confused about his religion, hamas cant even teach their kids Islam who are forced to the arms that are ready to use them for propaganda.

http://amanpour.blogs.cnn.com/2010/03/02/son-of-hamas-founder-i-was-confused/

I am using Scimitars logic here, dont you get it.

[ScimitarXEdge]

It seems that way to you because you assume these allegations of HAMAS crimes are legitimate every example you bring is either vague or blatantly agenda oriented.

so from my perspective the crimes you allege aren't even there. So there is nothing to legitimize

The Taliban however TAKE RESPONSIBIITY for suicide bombs, murdering women and children, selling and raping non-Pashtun women in the North even though they are MUSLIMS.

you're arguing desperate case all to defend the Taliban and their HARAAM tactics.

[ScimitarXEdge]

He is not moving him away from his body. he knows he is the target so he picks up the child so the israeli soldiers wont shoot at him. You have refuted none of the videos or articles nor have you refuted why hamas uses suicide bombers against civilians, nor have you refuted why hamas uses civilian institutions to launch attacks forcing the israelis to shoot at those civilian institutions.
Notice how the slaves of syria keep mum while its master attacks its people
Hamas Keeps Mum as Syria Assaults Palestinian Refugee Camp « Commentary Magazine

If that's the case why isnt he using him to protect his body; because if I were an IDF soldier I could easily shoot him without harming the child, snipers are trained to do that. When you're dragging a child that low that's clearly NOT using a human shield.


they suicide bomb against people who occupy their land; much different than suicide bombing people who are APART of your land.

It is Syria who should be on trial for their crimes NOT Hamas.....the fact you look for the most abstract thing to pin onto HAMAS shows how weak your case is

where as I can find numerous examples of well known Taliban crimes which they boasted about gleefully all over.

[unknownprince]

It seems that way to you because you assume these allegations of HAMAS crimes are legitimate every example you bring is either vague or blatantly agenda oriented.

so from my perspective the crimes you allege aren't even there. So there is nothing to legitimize

The Taliban however TAKE RESPONSIBIITY for suicide bombs, murdering women and children, selling and raping non-Pashtun women in the North even though they are MUSLIMS.

you're arguing desperate case all to defend the Taliban and their HARAAM tactics.

All you can do is make baseless claims up. Thats all you do.

Taliban arose to protect women from harm, and all you can muster up to contradict this is false Western backed propaganda which you indulge in like a fool. You would have also said that Ashia Bibi was tortured by the Taliban after reading that Times magazine. Now, everyone knows it be false, but NO, you would ahve said Times said it, so it must be TRUE!!!

Hamas has used human sheilds in their operations.

Afghans do not intentionally target people as you are saying, not like Hamas.

You keep repeating a lie, but its not working.

[unknownprince]

who said its ok randolph. you and sxe think hamas crimes are ok even though the leaders own son is speaking against hamas crimes and is confused about his religion, hamas cant even teach their kids Islam who are forced to the arms that are ready to use them for propaganda.

http://amanpour.blogs.cnn.com/2010/0...-was-confused/

I am using Scimitars logic here, dont you get it.

they are too dense to understand that you are using their logic against them.

and Scimitar is apparently a Masters/ PhD in Rocks student.

[ScimitarXEdge]

All you can do is make baseless claims up. Thats all you do.

Taliban arose to protect women from harm, and all you can muster up to contradict this is false Western backed propaganda which you indulge in like a fool. You would have also said that Ashia Bibi was tortured by the Taliban after reading that Times magazine. Now, everyone knows it be false, but NO, you would ahve said Times said it, so it must be TRUE!!!

Hamas has used human sheilds in their operations.

Afghans do not intentionally target people as you are saying, not like Hamas.

You keep repeating a lie, but its not working.

tell that to these women

Pashtun Taliban Murder Mother Then RAPE Her Three Daughters - YouTube

The only Human shields are people who volunteer, HAMAS never force civilians as human shields. the Taliban do.

Taliban using Afghans as human shields
'Taliban uses Afghans as human shields' - YouTube