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  • Legend of Massoud Flourishes, but Can’t Bridge an Afghan Chasm



    JANGALAK, Afghanistan — Each September, thousands of people flock to this tiny village along the rushing waters of the Panjshir River like pilgrims to a holy shrine, coming to commemorate the death of Ahmed Shah Massoud, the most celebrated hero of the Afghan resistance.
    Jangalak, the birthplace of Mr.Massoud, welcomes pilgrims.


    Aging men with war-gnarled limbs march with grandsons in tow up a winding path lined with placards bearing Mr. Massoud’s portrait: a time-softened image with the beatific quality of a shepherd cradling a lamb. They recite prayers at his black-marble tomb and circle back down in a flowing parade of adoration.
    Younger men — too young to have fought alongside him but who grew up on tales of his tactical genius against the Russians and later the Taliban government — spill out of pickup trucks waving black flags and whooping as if they had won all those battles themselves.
    “He was a hero, 100 percent,” said Mohammad Aslam, 68, a former mujahedeen fighter, who was among an estimated 50,000 devotees who trekked here for Saturday’s event, part of a series of festivities across parts of the country for the 10th anniversary of the death of the man they knew as the Lion of Panjshir.
    As Americans observe the day 10 years ago when terrorists in hijacked planes attacked New York and the Pentagon, the people of northern Afghanistan remember what for them was a greater tragedy two days earlier on Sept. 9, 2001. It was then that two agents of Al Qaeda posing as journalists detonated a bomb hidden in a television camera during an interview with Mr. Massoud, killing him instantly.
    For his closest aides, who first tried to keep his death secret, fearing the truth would sink the besieged Northern Alliance for good, the collapse of the World Trade Center towers was a sign of hope. They instinctively saw a nexus in the two acts — though one has never been proved — and knew that the Americans would soon be on their way.
    “I sort of woke up out of this shock I had been in since Sept. 9,” Abdullah Abdullah, the Northern Alliance’s former foreign minister, recalled about hearing the news of the attacks in New York. “It automatically came to my mind that out of this tragedy, there might be an opening.”
    A decade later, millions more children, including girls, go to school; access to health care has expanded; roads in many places, including leading up to this valley, are better. But amid the signs of progress there are also growing concerns as foreign forces set the stage for withdrawal. The Taliban continue to assert themselves with roadside bombs and suicide attacks — the latest on Saturday, at a NATO outpost in Wardak Province, killed at least two civilians. Confidence in President Hamid Karzai’s corruption-addled government is faltering on multiple fronts.
    Many of Mr. Massoud’s former allies in the north, some of whom have profited mightily in the land grabs and cash giveaways that followed the American invasion, have signaled resistance to Mr. Karzai’s efforts to negotiate a peace settlement with the Taliban.
    “Dig the trenches, bring out the ammunition and let’s get ready for the next civil war,” one senior Western diplomat said recently, only half in jest.
    In the turmoil, Mr. Massoud’s legend has only grown, fostering imaginings of what could have been, if only he had lived.
    Mr. Aslam, the former fighter, said, “If he were still alive, this would be a strong country now.”
    Today, portraits of Mr. Massoud are not limited to this village, his birthplace. They adorn virtually every government office in Kabul, the capital.
    They stare out from the windows of taxis and buses on dusty city streets. His otherworldly eyes watch over his disciples from billboards plastered across northern towns and hamlets. Here in Jangalak, a foundation named in his honor has built a white-marble dome around his tomb, and the construction of a library, study center and museum is under way, a fitting tribute to a warrior who spoke French, read poetry and was said to have a library with 3,000 books.

    But like so much else in Afghanistan, memories of Mr. Massoud are tempered by ethnic and geographical divisions. He was declared a national hero in 2002, and Sept. 9 is a national holiday. But his posters, so present in the north, are nowhere to be found in the south.


    An ethnic Tajik, Mr. Massoud is remembered by many in the Pashtun-dominated south for his days after the Soviet retreat, when he and the Tajik-centric government failed to unify the tempestuous mujahedeen factions that fractured before they could even celebrate their victory over the Communist-backed government.
    With Mr. Massoud as defense minister and Burhanuddin Rabbani as president, Kabul became the center of a civil war, as formerly united rebel commanders, each with his own militia, shelled one another and battled it out on the streets. In 1993 alone, an estimated 10,000 civilians died, compared with 2,777 last year, the most since American troops arrived in 2001.
    The chaos gave rise to the Taliban in the south, who by September 1996 had marched into Kabul, forcing Mr. Massoud and his forces to flee back to the Panjshir Valley, the same isolated redoubt high in the Hindu Kush mountains where he had held off the Russians time and again.
    “We know that Massoud was a great man,” said Hajji Ahmad Khan Muslim, a political analyst and tribal elder in the southern city of Kandahar. “But we have numbers of national heroes in the south. It’s not fair that only one person should emerge as a hero.”
    Ahmad Umaid, a Kandahar shopkeeper, said he did not consider Mr. Massoud a hero.
    “He was a big part of the civil war,” Mr. Umaid said. “That was him and those other warlords firing rockets into Kabul, causing so many civilian deaths. That was his men bringing prejudices among other ethnic groups.”
    Mr. Umaid is hardly alone in the south in his views.
    Those who were close to Mr. Massoud say that had he lived, he would have fought for more integrity and unity in the government, perhaps mindful of his own failings during the civil war.
    “He always said,” Mr. Abdullah recalled, “ ‘Those were my saddest days.’ ”
    There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

    Sayyid Qutb

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    Faye thanks this idiotic post as though the man really was a great leader.

    The man couldnt bring any kind of administration to Kabul. He could not unite the city let alone the whole country. Under his command, the city of Kabul was destroyed.

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    • #3
      shut your face! i often read an article then thank the person for putting it up. according to the article, some people obviously disagree with you khushal. sort it out with them.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by khushal View Post
        Faye thanks this idiotic post as though the man really was a great leader.

        The man couldnt bring any kind of administration to Kabul. He could not unite the city let alone the whole country. Under his command, the city of Kabul was destroyed.

        this was the point of the article

        “He was a big part of the civil war,” Mr. Umaid said. “That was him and those other warlords firing rockets into Kabul, causing so many civilian deaths. That was his men bringing prejudices among other ethnic groups.”
        Mr. Umaid is hardly alone in the south in his views.
        idiotic?

        i am surprised talibs here arent excusing massouds crimes like they do the talibans crimes since it was all "in the heat of war"
        There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

        Sayyid Qutb

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        • #5
          Originally posted by faye View Post
          shut your face! i often read an article then thank the person for putting it up. according to the article, some people obviously disagree with you khushal. sort it out with them.
          calm down, it was a joke, all you have to do is explain.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by khushal View Post
            Faye thanks this idiotic post as though the man really was a great leader.

            The man couldnt bring any kind of administration to Kabul. He could not unite the city let alone the whole country. Under his command, the city of Kabul was destroyed.

            Any thoughts on why Azzam preferred Mossoud to lead the country? I am asking out of pure ignorance on the topic and was hoping to gain an understanding of who Ahmad Shah Mossoud really is beyond the banter.
            "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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            • #7
              http://www.e-ariana.com/ariana/earia...4?OpenDocument

              An interesting article that I need to investigate...
              "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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              • #8
                Originally posted by khushal View Post
                calm down, it was a joke, all you have to do is explain.
                i have explained, after you misinterpreted my intent.
                Last edited by faye; 09-11-2011, 05:49 PM. Reason: addition

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
                  this was the point of the article



                  idiotic?

                  i am surprised talibs here arent excusing massouds crimes like they do the talibans crimes since it was all "in the heat of war"
                  The article makes him look more like a great leader, it only has one criticism in it and this article has missed the real crimes of this man but I know you are no fan of the man and posted it for informational purpose, I was just making a joke about Faye.

                  Note to Randolph, the criticism mentioned in your article about the man is that of after the Soviet withdrawal. What the resistance do during an occupation is strictly blamed on the occupation forces for they are responsible for security of the country. Once the occupation forces leave, then it is blamed on the security forces left behind by the occupation forces in charge of security.
                  The US desperately wants to leave Afghanistan but they cant until they can transfer the security to a competent security force. This is the reason Iran put a leash on Moqdata Al Sadr(who wants to attack US forces) so the transfer can take place and then have the US forces leave and have Iran in full control of Iraq. Iran wants the same for Afghanistan thats why it is ridiculous to believe Iran would want to support the Taliban. Iran wants a competent security force in Afghanistan so they would have complete control of the country.
                  Military Occupation & the Rule of Law: The Legal Obligations of Occupying Forces in Iraq - [2005] MurUEJL 8

                  International Humanitarian Law - Fourth 1949 Geneva Convention

                  So this would be an obligation as occupying power of the country. So until the occupation force leaves, you cant blame the Afghans, same rules apply here as it did during the Soviet occupation.

                  Randolph since you and scimitar are fans of Hamas, are you aware Hamas kill more of their own Palestinians than than there enemy Israel does and the Arabs citizens in Israel are treated much better and have a better quality of life than the Arabs in Hamas controlled areas.

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                  • #10
                    where has HAMAS deliberately targeted civilian non-combatants of their own people?

                    The only thing you have ever quoted to me is some allegation that Israel created HAMAS, of which I did some research and found this was totally blown out of proportion by conspiracy theory websites (ironic you try to peddle the terms conspiracy theory on others)

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                    • #11
                      ^
                      wow anything about arabs (not that i dont like hamas or believe that conspiracy) an dits conpiracy while when it is about Pashtuns its hard to believe.

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                      • #12
                        no it's conspiracy because it's been demonstratively false. ......Arabs from Saudi fund the Taliban too ....does that mean it's merely a conspiracy theory?

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                        • #13
                          ^
                          wow you are fast at dancing aroudn the truth.
                          Afghan civilians feed the taliban ,let me guess now that is a conspiracy right?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by BarakzaiAbdali View Post
                            Any thoughts on why Azzam preferred Mossoud to lead the country? I am asking out of pure ignorance on the topic and was hoping to gain an understanding of who Ahmad Shah Mossoud really is beyond the banter.
                            Salamoona barackzai wrora,
                            I dont really know, I was hoping you could shed some light on the subject. Do you believe it was political since hekmatyar was siding with Osama and zawahiri who had ideological difference with azzam. In the end none of them showed any promise to lead the country but on the contrary lead it to destruction.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
                              where has HAMAS deliberately targeted civilian non-combatants of their own people?
                              logic

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