Message Of Felicitation Of The Esteemed Amir-Ul-Momineen On The Occasion Of Eid-Ul-F

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let me just point out that many boys (who were not the children of Pak government officials) have been murdered by US-Pakistani permitted drone attacks. I have posted several threads on drone attacks and the people who have been killed. Are those lives not worthy?

You see, the point, intentional or not, has already been proven.

When you value the lives of some over others, then don't yell and shout when such an attitude backfires.

Lets use a quote from Iron Man 2 to explain this: "There is blood in the water, and the sharks will come"



The people of Waziristan want to be left alone. Pakistan should have never had a war with them. They opened this pandoras box by supporting war against Afghanistan.

There is a HUGE difference. Uncle toms seem to be OK with Muslims getting murdered by drones.

These uncle toms and aunt betties are OK with that.

That's a total scapegoat; these chidren are Muslim too. So if you're so concerned with crimes done to Muslims, how is this justified in anyway?

The Noble Qur'an States;

2:190 (Y. Ali) fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors

so already we know the Taliban's tactics contradict Islam, and therefore isn't fi sabil Allah and is against Islam. If Taliban were fighting islamically they'd be fighting those who do the drone attacks, not civilians who have no say in drone attacks what so ever.

Nabi (saw) said

Bukhari, volume 9, #17

"Narrated Abdullah: Allah's Messenger said, "The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Messenger, cannot be shed except in three cases: in Qisas (equality in punishment) for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (Apostate) and leaves the Muslim

The children have not been proven to have committed murder, adultery or apostasy (which even then has certain procedures to get a conviction), Therefore the Taliban are advocating the murder of Muslims.



The true marks of an Uncle Tom is following the ways of those who disbelieve and rebel against Islam. you're following the kufar ideology instead of following what Islam teaches. Not only are the Taliban and their supporters Uncle Toms, they're House Slaves of the worst variety

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LOL @ Iron Man 2 quote



I got a humongous chuckle out of that too; how ironic he calls others Uncle Toms but his wisdom of what is morally valid does not come from Islam, but Hollywood Movies ......is there any more blatant evidence of what a irrevocable dunce and hypocrite this retard is?

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the massacre was before taliban,done by masood and sayaf.
hazara group hezne wahdath has also done massacre and horrific crimes.

under taliban they were pretty safe.
watch this documentary,it is one of its kind under taliban rule and here at around 40:00 minutes you will see how hazaras were treated.
Journeys.to.the.Ends.of.the.Earth.Afghanistan.avi - YouTube

This is a mini documentary by the same Guy who made the video you linked above

and it talks about mass graves of Hazaras after Taliban massacres

This is by the same GUY who made your video
Taliban Terror - Afghanistan - YouTube

some were even skinned ......sick

[ScimitarXEdge]

Taliban were a response to the civil war and the ethnocentric thugs. people were safe under them because they brutally stopped crime, and that is why they are back.

I think faye read too much kiterunner LOL. I spit on every page of that book that supports war on Afghans.

take a look yourself......this was also made by Journey man ...why are you just cherry picking videos which actually dont indicate what you say at all, but ignore the videos which contradict your claims?

Taliban Terror - Afghanistan - YouTube

[MostafaM]

Scimitar makes alot of sense, I have to confess.

[graveyardofempires]

This is a mini documentary by the same Guy who made the video you linked above

and it talks about mass graves of Hazaras after Taliban massacres

This is by the same GUY who made your video
Taliban Terror - Afghanistan - YouTube

some were even skinned ......sick

some were even skinned? oh please seems like nothing more than hezbi wahdat to me.

does he show it on video? cuz he does show hazaras living in peace under taliban.

but hey i dont mind you being ignorant since you havent lived in Afghanistan in those times.

[unknownprince]

LOL, this CNN-Wikipidea/google Scimitar uncle tom,

Barakzai and Khushal destroyed you completely. Don't take your frustration out on me. They exposed you as a useless MORON who just argues for the sake of arguing, despite continued failure.

He has a spat with Barakzai about Nawa to distract and also prove he knows about Afghanistan. The clown uses a combination of google/cnn/washington post/ "kabul" officials statements to support his retarded claims.

The guy is a complete JOKE.

Iron Man 2: So what, the quote still holds. Its still relevant. US bombs Afghanistan, Pakistan supports it. What did they expect? Flowers?

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some were even skinned? oh please seems like nothing more than hezbi wahdat to me.

does he show it on video? cuz he does show hazaras living in peace under taliban.

but hey i dont mind you being ignorant since you havent lived in Afghanistan in those times.

LOL @ you thinking that a few minutes where the Hazaras aren't being attacked means the Taliban treated them well.


aif you watch the video

He says "these are the Hazara people, and I'm told the Taliban, would rather we didn't have much contact with them"


not exactly something people would say if they were peaceful with the Hazaras

but there is more. He says

"they want independence for their valley"

why would they want independence is the Taliban are treating them well?

This is the same video you're claiming they live peacefully under the Taliban

Another thing to note is that this was filmed in early 1997, before the Massacres in Mazar Sharif. ....so much for peaceful

[ScimitarXEdge]

LOL, this CNN-Wikipidea/google Scimitar uncle tom,

Barakzai and Khushal destroyed you completely. Don't take your frustration out on me. They exposed you as a useless MORON who just argues for the sake of arguing, despite continued failure.

He has a spat with Barakzai about Nawa to distract and also prove he knows about Afghanistan. The clown uses a combination of google/cnn/washington post/ "kabul" officials statements to support his retarded claims.

The guy is a complete JOKE.

Iron Man 2: So what, the quote still holds. Its still relevant. US bombs Afghanistan, Pakistan supports it. What did they expect? Flowers?

The quote shows you're the uncle tom that you're accusing others of; it means you get your Morals from Kufar and not from the Qur'an/Islam

You accuse me of being a 'googler" but youre using Youtube as your source, and I just youtubed the same sources you use and showed they say something completely different in other videos


Keep in mind I'm using YOUR OWN source here.

[unknownprince]

Message Of Felicitation Of The Esteemed Amir-Ul-Momineen

On The Occasion Of Eid-Ul-Fitre

Ramadan 27, 1432 A.H, Sunday, August 28, 2011

In the Name of Allah, the Most Compassionate, the Most Merciful

Allah is the Greatest, Allah is the Greatest. There is no god but Allah and Allah is the Greatest, Allah is the Greatest. All praises are for Allah (SWT).

Praise be to Allah Who did help His Servant (the Holy Prophet); honored His Army, Defeated the Confederation single-handedly; peace be on the Prophet after whom there is no prophet (to advent). Having said this, I would like to proceed as under:

I extend my (heart-felt) felicitation to the Afghan Mujahid people and to all Islamic Ummah on the occasion of Eid-ul-Fitre and, meanwhile, I congratulate you all for the continuous victories in Afghanistan. May Allah (SWT) accept in His Sight your fasting, Jihad and your sufferings in the cause of the Truth.

Availing myself of this opportunity, I want to share with you my views as regards some vital matters as follows:

Regarding the Current Situation of Jihad:

The enemies of Islam and Afghanistan had envisioned that the current year would be crucial for defeat of Mujahideen and for obtainment of the wicked goal of the enemy. Even they had raised hopes and expectations in their people and the world about a fundamental change in the status quo. Praise be to Allah, all their plans transpired to prove contrary to their calculations and assessments. The enemy sustained more casualties in soul and equipments this year in comparison with last years. With the passage of each day, the Mujahideen become better familiar with the enemy tactics; they are gaining access to hardware which is instrumental in causing greater losses to the enemy. All people are now witness to the tremendous life casualties of the enemy as well as the downing of their aircraft's. Furthermore, the growing cooperation of people; the infiltration of Mujahideen in the ranks and files of the enemy, the expansion of the area of Jihad to every part of the country; the growing escalation in daily operations and availability of accumulated tactics; the extermination of high level officials of the enemy both in north and south of the country, all these give us a good news of an imminent victory and a bright future.

If we compare the achievements of the current year’s operations which are christened as Badrewith those of the previous years; if we ponder over the constant defeats and unprecedented moribund position of the enemy, we can reach a clear picture that points to the high morale of Mujahideen and an all-sided descent of the enemy.

At world level, the status quo is not pro-America as it once was in the past. The American economy is facing terrible problems more than before. People of NATO member countries are coming round to know realities of the war of Afghanistan with the passage of each day. A strong stance of opposition to this meaningless war takes roots in the minds of the public. The participant countries in the invading coalition withdraw their forces (from Afghanistan) one after another. The regional countries and people have fed up with the gunboat policy of America. In brief, this situation indicates to the victory of our sacred Jihad.

Regarding the Withdrawal of Limited Contingents of American Forces from Afghanistan:

First of all, I would like to say that limited withdrawal of the invading forces can in, no way, solve the issue of Afghanistan. The Jihad will continue unabatedly, because superficial measures further complicate the issue of Afghanistan and can produce harmful consequences. The invading forces should seek a lasting and convincing solution to the issue by immediately withdrawing their forces.

Regarding American Permanent Bases in Afghanistan:

The Afghan nation is not ready to accept establishment of American permanent bases here. The Afghans consider military presence of the invaders whether it is in a greater size or a smaller, as a foreign occupation. If the Americans persist to display arrogance in this regard and do not pay attention to the demands of the Jihadic resistance and the people of Afghanistan, they would face the same aftermath as they are facing now following the decade-long occupation of Afghanistan that even they can’t feel consolation and respite in Kabul despite expenditure of billions of dollars and casualties of thousands of troops.

All people, particularly, the academic, political and influential figures of the country, should reach a common national stance in understanding with the Islamic Emirate against the establishment of bases of the invaders. Thus, they should prove to the Americans that all the nation have, in unison, opposing views about the permanent bases of foreigners in our country. Participation in the process of support for the establishment of the permanent bases, whether it is taking place under the name of Jirga or parliament, would only separate traitors from those committed to the religion and land.

Regarding the Future of the Country:

Our manifesto is that Afghanistan should have a real Islamic regime which is acceptable to all people of the country. All ethnicities will have participation in the regime and portfolios will be dispensed on the basis of merits; will maintain good relations with regional and world countries on the basis of mutual respect, Islamic and national interests. Such dispensation will entirely focus on conduits to recover the spiritual and material losses that have been caused by the three decades-long war. Since Afghanistan has vast arable land, rich mines and high potential of energy resources, therefore, we can make investments in these sectors in conditions of peace and stability and wrangle ourselves from the tentacles of poverty, unemployment, backwardness and ignorance, which give rise to other social and economic problems. Contrary to the propaganda launched by the enemies, the policy of the Islamic Emirate is not aimed at monopolizing power. Since Afghanistan is the joint homeland of all Afghans, so all Afghans have right to perform their responsibility in the field of protection and running of the country. The future transformations and developments would not resemble the developments following the collapse of communism, when every thing of the country was plundered and the State Apparatus damaged entirely. Contrarily, strict measures will be taken to safeguard all national installations, government departments and the advancements that have been occurred in private sector. Professional cadres and national business men will be further encouraged, without any discrimination, to serve their religion and country.

Regarding Negotiation:

The Islamic Emirate considers the presence of the foreign invading troops in the country; their blind-bombardment, night raids, their brutalities; tortures and tyranny as the main cause of the current imbroglio in the country. The issue would come to an end when the said brutalities are meted out. Similarly, IE considers establishment of an independent Islamic regime as a conducive mechanism for sustainability of religious and worldly interests of the country and the countrymen. For this purpose, every legitimate option can be considered in order to reach this goal. The contacts which have been made with some parties for the release of prisoners can’t be called as a comprehensive negotiation for the solution of the current imbroglio of the country. However, the Islamic Emirate, as an efficient political and military entity, has a specific and independent agenda in this regard which has been elucidated time and again.

Regarding the Coming Bonne Conference:

This conference will not be different from the conference held ten years ago because neither true representatives of the Afghan people have participation in it, nor attention is paid to a comprehensive and real solution of the problems of Afghanistan. Like the previous conferences and Jirgas, this conference is superficial and hypes- oriented. They want to distract the attention of the public of the world from the real solution of the Afghan issue for some time. Only those speeches and addresses are expected here which are already approved by the White House and Pentagon.

We advise all global actors involved in the issue of Afghanistan to seek a real and pragmatic solution of the Afghan issue instead of focusing on factitious and superficial solutions. They should realize the ground realities of Afghanistan; The Afghans have a splendid tradition for the solution of problems and understanding among themselves. But it is in a condition when foreign intervention does not exist. Considering it its legitimate right, the Islamic Emirate wages a lawful struggle for the defense of its religion, country and soil. The only reason for that being the presence of foreign invaders in the land. If the global invading coalition ends occupation of our land, the Islamic Emirate, as a peace-loving and responsible regime, will maintain positive relations with countries of the region and the world.

We advise all countries including the neighbors not to become part of any colonialist game concerning the future of Afghanistan, because it will serve no one’s interests. The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan, as heir of two million Afghan martyrs, is determined to make independent decisions concerning the future of Afghanistan regardless of foreign intervention. Such decisions will be embodiment of the aspirations of the martyrs and our national and Islamic interests, dignity and honor of the Afghans.

We would like to make it clear to all sides that neither the Afghans accept imposed regimes nor such regimes can endure here.

Regarding the Administrators of the Kabul Administration:

We once again call on the Afghans working for the Kabul Administration to desist from the support of the invaders; stand by the side of Mujahideen, shoulder to shoulder, against the enemies of Islam and country. Your joining the Mujahideen will compel the occupying forces to leave our soil. Thus, the sacrifices of our miserable people will come to fruition and our country will become embellished with the ornaments of independence, prosperity and Islamic regime and it will blossom. This is in the interests of all.

To the Vanguards of the Stronghold of Truth:

In view of the sensitivities of the prevailing conditions, it is essential that you concentrate on your Jihadic obligations more than before. Many parts of the country have been cleansed from the unholy presence of the enemy thanks to your struggle. Strive to cleanse the remaining parts of the country from the presence of the enemy. Never neglect Jihadic affairs; display strong determination and hammer out efficient and meticulous planning. Make the pleasure of Allah (SWT) as your goal.
Regard jihad as a main principle. Observe obedience to your Amir and see to implement the codes of conduct of Mujahideen which have been delivered to you. The Jihadic chiefs nominated by us in all parts of the country are your Sharia-based leaders. You should obey them.
You should strictly observe precautionary measures which are told you by your leaders. If you commit neglect in this regard and do not take care though you are able to do so, then you will be harmed by the enemy in this world and will be responsible in the Sight of Allah (SWT).
You should be very careful about conduct with the common people. Gain the heart of people through good conduct and behavior. Our nation is a Mujahid and Muslim nation. They have made colossal sacrifices in the cause of Islam more than any one else and have passed through sufferings and hardships. You should respect every common individual whether he is an old man, a young , a child or a woman. If you receive any report about a given person, first, make meticulous investigation about him. Never harass people on the basis of fake and biased reports. Pay attention to the good advices and views expressed by the common people. When you face a common man, think if you were a commoner in his place and if you had no weapon, what you would expected him to behave with people. In other words, think if that given person whom you are confronting with, if he was your father, brother or another close relative, how would you behave with him? Mujahideen should always have a conduct of kindness and tenderness with the common man. They should never regard themselves above them.
Do not impose bans or issue orders to people by yourselves unless your leadership has instructed you to do so or your provincial chiefs permitted you to do the task. Otherwise, this will defame the Mujahideen and Jihad. It gives reason to the enemy to launch negative propaganda and create a rift between the people and the Mujahideen. Similarly, you should implement the instructions given to you in consultation with the people of the area and the local religious scholars.
No one affiliated with the Islamic Emirate is allowed to extort money from people by force. If a Mujahid or any one else is found extorting money from national businessmen, landlords and other wealthy men by the barrel of gun or if they are involved in kidnapping people for ransom, they should be prohibited from doing so. If you managed to detain them, administer to them punishment as per the Sharia rules. ( Remember) protection of life and property of people is one of the main goals of Jihad.
To end, I would like to say that you should allot time for reading to enhance your knowledge and ever try to learn something; participate in activities aimed at calling people to the religion; often recite Mathura prayers and hymns; focus on sport , physical exercise and Jihadic training. You should hone your outward and inner self in a manner that conforms to the rules of the sacred Sharia and, among people, lead a life of a holy, God-fearing, beneficent and philanthropist men.
Books of code of conduct of Mujahideen have reached every stronghold and province. So all provincial governors should see that Mujahideen under their command have fully absorbed the contents of the book and abide by them.
To University Professors, Students, the Intelligentsia and Writers both Inside and Outside the Country:

Gentlemen! Our future relies on a complete independence. If we do not have independent country, our future will be no more than that of slaves. A master never gives a slave what he chooses for himself. The master always uses the slave as a tool and a gambit. In view of this, in the past decade, the aggressors of our land haven’t completed mega and strategic projects (in our country) i.e. large water dams, a national electricity network and other heavy industries. These projects are vital for our economy. Contrarily, they have openly and secretly flared up geographical and racial conflicts and encouraged the youth to involve in lingual and geographical controversies. This amounts to destroying the future of our country.

It is our and your joint Islamic and national obligation to save the young generation from the impact of the enemy’s dissension-oriented propaganda. As our Mujahid people put up resistance, thanks to the sacred Jihad, against the political and military occupation of our country by the Westerners, in the same vein, it is indispensable that all should robustly block the way of dissemination of the depravity-infested western culture and its harmful ideological impacts on this Muslim and proud country. We should strive devotedly, honestly and with the Afghan characteristic of strong determination to ensure that our future generations live in the embrace of the sacred culture of Islam. God forbid, if we neglect to do so, our brave people will become alien to the bright past of Islam due to the detrimental impacts of the Western civilization. Professors, students, writers and the intelligentsia should individually and collectively wage a practical struggle for obtainment of complete independence; for protection of national and Islamic values and for solidarity of the Afghans. We should remain united for the sake of a common goal and wipe out all hypothetical and superficial gaps. It is the Islamic values that can do away with all lingual and geographical differences among the Afghans. But it requires sacrifice to do that.

To the Public of Afghanistan and the World:

First of all, I thank various strata of the Afghan society who consider the current Islamic Jihad as their religious obligation and have passed through toils and fatigues in the path of Jihad and struggle in the past decade. They extended all-sided cooperation to Mujahideen and fulfilled their Jihadic obligation. But in order to save yourselves from wasting your sacrifices rendered in the past decade, you should further continue the cooperation. If a person is able to wage Jihad physically and with a weapon, he should do his obligation. The men of letters should put to work their pens in the cause of defense of their religion and the well-to-do should spend their wealth in procurement of Jihadic necessities.

We urge the Muslims of the world to support the Mujahideen through their material and spiritual support. Similarly, we urge independent people and personalities of the world to support the legitimate defensive struggle of the Afghans and do not allow the tyrannical arrogant to coerce the oppressed people of the world to become exposed to the wicked and tyrannical motives of the arrogants simply because they use force and violence.

To end I once again extend my felicitation on the occasion of the Eid to all Muslims of the world, to all miserable Afghans, to fighters at the strongholds, to Mujahideen prisoners, to families of martyrs, to all orphans of the cause of Jihad, to widows and all affectees. I call on the wealthy people of the society not to forget the needy and indigent men in these days. At the end, I ask the Almighty Allah to bestow on us the coming Eids in a time that we are living under the shade of a peaceful, independent and Sharia-based Islamic regime. Amen. Peace be on you all.

Servant of Islam, Amir-ul-Momineen

Mullah Mohammad Omar Mujahid

Shariah 4 Holland

back to the original topic.

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Ashraf got owned.

[khushal]

the prophet and his men didn't become insane and murder their own even though they were faced with insurmountable odds. US troops have problems because they are retarded to begin with before and after their tours. i expect people who call themselves muslims and claim to be defending muslims not to murder or harm innocent muslims, its not exactly much to ask for. if someone sees their loved ones die i dont expect them to kill innocent people or kidnap children, no. if we are making those kinds of excuses for the taliban, we might as well exonerate every criminal group in afghanistan, including the governments of the last 30 years.

Randolph,
Noone really criticized the majahadeen during the soviet occupation except for Massod when he made agreements with the soviets but even still those agreements were not criticized that much. All the criticism came of what those groups did when the soviets left. Everything they did during the soviet occupation was blamed as a reaction to the soviet occupation. The US was using this same pitchline during the afghan-soviet war.

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You actually just disproved your own argument Khushal, the insanity pleas doesn't work.

[graveyardofempires]

LOL @ you thinking that a few minutes where the Hazaras aren't being attacked means the Taliban treated them well.

actually if you see tha taliban are right in bamyan the heartland of hazaras and i see hazaras living just fine,but i guess you mean hezbe wahdat ,an armed group who are responsible for horrofic crimes.
if you could speak dari i would show you another video as well.

aif you watch the video

i watched

He says "these are the Hazara people, and I'm told the Taliban, would rather we didn't have much contact with them"

He says? that is something else than watching .
anyways
that is a LISTEN not a WATCH.

not exactly something people would say if they were peaceful with the Hazaras

since we didnt SEE any evidence of that we cant just agree with what the narator is saying.

but there is more. He says

"they want independence for their valley"
that is boloney,typical foreign look at Afghanistan.
no where int eh video anyone claimed they wanted independence.

why would they want independence is the Taliban are treating them well?
Irrelevant question
This is the same video you're claiming they live peacefully under the Taliban
proof the otherwise from the video.

Another thing to note is that this was filmed in early 1997, before the Massacres in Mazar Sharif. ....so much for peaceful

mazar e sharif massacre was not done against hazaras but against surrendered taliban.
this is the massacre in mazar e sharif and its done against pashtuns not hazaras.
Massacre in Mazar - YouTube

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actually if you see tha taliban are right in bamyan the heartland of hazaras and i see hazaras living just fine,but i guess you mean hezbe wahdat ,an armed group who are responsible for horrofic crimes.
if you could speak dari i would show you another video as well.



i watched


He says? that is something else than watching .
anyways
that is a LISTEN not a WATCH.






since we didnt SEE any evidence of that we cant just agree with what the narator is saying.


mazar e sharif massacre was not done against hazaras but against surrendered taliban.
this is the massacre in mazar e sharif and its done against pashtuns not hazaras.
Massacre in Mazar - YouTube

and you accuse me about knowing about afghanistan, didn't you know that they came back the next year and started killing Hazaras indiscriminately to avenge those Taliban?

Also according to YOUR reasoning, since we didnt see any Talibs getting killed, the Massacres never happened....the Hazaras were peaceful to the Talibs LOL ....YOUR logic not mine