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  • #61
    Originally posted by Baygham View Post
    Dont waste your time on these, focus your energy on the millions in watan all too eager to shed the yoke of despair and servitude.
    I don't think the Pashtuns (who are mainly Islamists) have anything to worry about if their 'adversaries' are that far gone from reality. The deep disconnect between the Kabuli atheist nationalists (urbanites) and the rural masses is astounding. Similarities between the Kabulites and the Tehranis in their attempts to 'civilize' their watan and people, only to have gigantic slaps on the faces by the masses. The evidence suggests that Pashtuns aren't going to fall into the dreams of online daydreamers, exemplified by you.

    Simple little experiment, go and spout your rhetoric to the masses and see what happens. Hint: Najibullah.

    Btw, on the whole, what's with the obsession with Pakistan on here? Everything degenerates into illogical Pak obsession and paranoia.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by BarakzaiAbdali View Post
      (i.e. Pakistan is responsible for the F you got on your history test and Pakistan got that girl three doors down pregnant and Pakistan got That 70s Show cancelled).
      If Pakistan ever really got That 70s Show cancelled, i'd revoke by Paki nationalist card. I'd be back in the camp if the ISI took out Beiber.

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      • #63
        Second generation West-grown Muslims/Desis are living in utopia...Barakzai is an example of that... He is living in a changed world but is a man of the bygone age thinking-wise...The other guy only has dead matter up there so the resistance to rational thinking (if I am not wrong).

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Toramana View Post
          Second generation West-grown Muslims/Desis are living in utopia...Barakzai is an example of that... He is living in a changed world but is a man of the bygone age thinking-wise...The other guy only has dead matter up there so the resistance to rational thinking (if I am not wrong).
          Predictable response from a predictable ideologue utilizing predictable rhetoric.
          "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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          • #65
            Originally posted by BarakzaiAbdali View Post
            Predictable response from a predictable ideologue utilizing predictable rhetoric.
            Pa khair Barakzai sanga yai...khkarai na bacha ... ? da khalafath ba rala kala joray ... mung pa kai chartha tut tha oo na khiajai no...pa khpal khalafath kai...
            Last edited by Toramana; 04-06-2011, 12:09 AM.

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            • #66
              why is it when these so called "Pashtun" nationalists like Toramana and Baygham stress "civilizing" people they always do so by the normative customs of "British/American/Imperialistic" concocted standards? How is it "Nationalistic" to use an Imperialist culture's ideals as the standard of life?


              Doesn't that just sound a bit FISHY???????

              And when they counter such suspiscions; They always make false appeals to Modernity and say people are mentally living in some Bygone age; but they will label the Normative practices of European Imperialists as "Modern"l does anyone else notice this?

              And also ; how come they accuse people who have lived , experienced have first hand knowledge of what actually happens in Western countries and how Western values and society operates; of having identity crisis; yet people who Idealize Western norms to be implanted in Pashtun societies; have never had any first hand experience with how western society operates; think they're enlightened progressives?


              Does anyone else notice these emotional black mail tactics?

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              • #67
                Originally posted by BarakzaiAbdali View Post
                Off the zoloft again I see.

                Baygham, your tired diversions are a cliched attempt to somehow explain failed ideologies that daddy taught you, but that you just cannot shake. Somehow, the transmogrification of your ideologies from communism to secularism to whatever other ism you choose to parasitize off of, has taken ahold of your common senses.

                Regarding contribution, trust me, my work has contributed far more to Pashtun and American societies than all you have or will accomplish.

                You are the child of a failed group of mad red hatters (located in the Quetta chowk behind Achekzai's dayraan) and have not benefited from your American education in any way.

                The reason I see this?: Because you somehow continue to see jihadism hiding behind each logical statement.

                Praytell, when did Michael Scheuer become a jihadi?
                Dad, the lord rest his soul, was actually a hardcore islamist (people remember him for that still). Poor soul, if only he knew better, but he didn't, life goes on. LOL. I hope he is happy with 72 virgins and his share of Ghilmans (he never was into those so honestly cant see him happy with that, must be feeling quite awkward with those fairies licking him day and night, sharab in hand-azthagfirullah).

                Your only explanation, must be a commie, unfortunately they died long before I came along. No stupid comrade love lost here either.

                I am a pure unashamed capatilist who wishes the world and has seen most of his wishes come true, without killing or inciting others to do something I wont do myself, without offerring sacrifices to God or Shaitan. Without the need for love of an illogical mother or the fear of threats from an islamist dad.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by fzpz View Post
                  I don't think the Pashtuns (who are mainly Islamists) have anything to worry about if their 'adversaries' are that far gone from reality. The deep disconnect between the Kabuli atheist nationalists (urbanites) and the rural masses is astounding. Similarities between the Kabulites and the Tehranis in their attempts to 'civilize' their watan and people, only to have gigantic slaps on the faces by the masses. The evidence suggests that Pashtuns aren't going to fall into the dreams of online daydreamers, exemplified by you.

                  Simple little experiment, go and spout your rhetoric to the masses and see what happens. Hint: Najibullah.

                  Btw, on the whole, what's with the obsession with Pakistan on here? Everything degenerates into illogical Pak obsession and paranoia.
                  Nobody wants to civilize anybody, actually the world needs a few billion stone age lunatics for menial jobs so feel safe, we do need you. Our only problem is when you guys in your islamic lunacy go on a killing rampage. That is not allowed. keep the AK47 unloaded and nobody will bother you in your cave, trust me it is in our interest if you stay there another few centuries.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Baygham View Post
                    Dad, the lord rest his soul, was actually a hardcore islamist (people remember him for that still). Poor soul, if only he knew better, but he didn't, life goes on. LOL. I hope he is happy with 72 virgins and his share of Ghilmans (he never was into those so honestly cant see him happy with that, must be feeling quite awkward with those fairies licking him day and night, sharab in hand-azthagfirullah).

                    Your only explanation, must be a commie, unfortunately they died long before I came along. No stupid comrade love lost here either.

                    I am a pure unashamed capatilist who wishes the world and has seen most of his wishes come true, without killing or inciting others to do something I wont do myself, without offerring sacrifices to God or Shaitan. Without the need for love of an illogical mother or the fear of threats from an islamist dad.

                    hehe you insult your own theoretical dead father with some manufactured distorted caricature of eschatology promoted by Western orientalists. Anyone even an Atheist raised Muslim knows that Muslims don't die and ziptie straight to heaven. The epitome of lacking any self respect or Pakhtun notions of Ghairat. despicable.

                    Your stories of your family life are as forged and entertaining as a Twilight novel. You need to stop trying to learn about what Islam believes from "taqwacores".

                    Unashamed Capitalist= Imperialism at it's core; I need not elaborate further.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Toramana View Post
                      Pa khair Barakzai sanga yai...khkarai na bacha ... ? da khalafath ba rala kala joray ... mung pa kai chartha tut tha oo na khiajai no...pa khpal khalafath kai...
                      Nau za khau khpaal zaan thaa sadaa saraay weym... takhth bandaa sheynasthaal da paraa jaur shawaay naym. Zwend may dosaay rawaand dey che da mareezaan ghulaam ba pathaa sama thaar marg. Yaw sadaa kabr au, au yau spin kaffan ki ba mi khakh kee. Surkh khewlaa bachaa, sthasau au dhaa najibulshaythaan shantaay naymaa chey da Angleezyaan pa walaao au thakaath da lasaa ba aukhayjama da weenau zainaa bandaa. Da khpaal qaum weena nasam skhel.
                      "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Baygham View Post
                        Dad, the lord rest his soul, was actually a hardcore islamist (people remember him for that still). Poor soul, if only he knew better, but he didn't, life goes on. LOL. I hope he is happy with 72 virgins and his share of Ghilmans (he never was into those so honestly cant see him happy with that, must be feeling quite awkward with those fairies licking him day and night, sharab in hand-azthagfirullah).

                        Your only explanation, must be a commie, unfortunately they died long before I came along. No stupid comrade love lost here either.

                        I am a pure unashamed capatilist who wishes the world and has seen most of his wishes come true, without killing or inciting others to do something I wont do myself, without offerring sacrifices to God or Shaitan. Without the need for love of an illogical mother or the fear of threats from an islamist dad.
                        Have some shame, that mother nursed you and taught you the first cures to things without you even knowing it. Regarding you doing something yourself... I urged you to replace John, Tom, Steve, and Bill in the Afghan plains Kipling wrote so fondly about... so that you can fight Omar Hotak and his men yourself... you declined.
                        "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Baygham View Post
                          Nobody wants to civilize anybody, actually the world needs a few billion stone age lunatics for menial jobs so feel safe, we do need you. Our only problem is when you guys in your islamic lunacy go on a killing rampage. That is not allowed. keep the AK47 unloaded and nobody will bother you in your cave, trust me it is in our interest if you stay there another few centuries.

                          yeah those people in the rainforests of brazil living a stone age lifestyle and living a content life are hankering for menial jobs.

                          again you define progress by someone elses cultural standards; ever think of letting the farangay hand out of your colon for just a moment to think independently for once?

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                          • #73
                            I like your usage of "we", you're under the illusion that somehow you're in with "in crowd". From my experience, the menial jobs are held by pashtun nationalists. Have a couple of disgruntled folks like you working for me. Usually the former gas station clerk who dreams about changing up his watan by latching on to those who will use him. That is not to deny the reality that people are working hard to support themselves, i commend them for that, it's a tough world out there. I'm doing quite well, not gonna play the game of demeaning someones' way of earning bread.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
                              yeah those people in the rainforests of brazil living a stone age lifestyle and living a content life are hankering for menial jobs.

                              again you define progress by someone elses cultural standards; ever think of letting the farangay hand out of your colon for just a moment to think independently for once?
                              go live with them man, who is stopping you, I will be happy to get your 'worldly possessions', bequeath them to me. I will take good care of them

                              Lets do an experiment, post that you will give your american citizenship and all worldly western possessions here and now in exchange for a life in watan. I bet 99% of afghans who can read and write (and thus made a fool by this poison you call western education) will sign up right here, right now.

                              But no, lets tell them rainforest rocks, stay in the desert and keep the camels ready in case you come visiting and are wishing a desert safari. May be some goat cheese, yes 20% afghan population you tend to goats so i can have goat cheese with my morning mimosa.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by BarakzaiAbdali View Post
                                Have some shame, that mother nursed you and taught you the first cures to things without you even knowing it. Regarding you doing something yourself... I urged you to replace John, Tom, Steve, and Bill in the Afghan plains Kipling wrote so fondly about... so that you can fight Omar Hotak and his men yourself... you declined.
                                is it shame that is keeping you from sanity? get over it, it is getting way too costly.

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