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Mahatma Gandhi 'racist and bisexual' claims new book
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i am not saying that i believe in this but no one has the right of putting their will power in to test at someone else's expense and then confess to the rest of the world about it too.
I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.
non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.
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Gandhi worship is part of the Indian subculture. It's good for the Indian government to pacify its population and portray the global imagery of true low caste subservience.Originally posted by randolph85 View Posti have heard this stuff before. i really don't understand the gandhi worship by some people.
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He probably missed a letter of will when discussing it.Originally posted by KhalsaWarrior View PostWell these allegations have been leveled before. It all depends on how you look at it.
Gandhi has himself stated that he slept naked with his teen niece to 'test' his will power. We can call him perverted ( I definitely do) but for him it was the ultimate test of his capability to resist temptation and hold steadfast to what he believed in.
you can tell he was a dirty bugger.
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Neither Gandhi nor Badshah Khan were present at the ceremony of Britain leaving India. Both were against the partition. Both spent the time in prayer, not attending the ceremony according to Eknath Easwaran in the book, "Nonviolent Soldier of Islam: Badshah Khan A Man to Match His Mountains"Originally posted by khushal View PostGhandi was a coward and a sellout. He gave in to British pressure of splitting the subcontinent which was a disservice to its inhabitants interests. If you notice how the British portrayed him through his life. They called him a terrorist and a fanatic when he was against the partition, when he gave in to British pressure and accepted the partition, all of a sudden he was a peace loving and great man that fought for the people of India. What a joke.
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similar to pakistani jinnah worship.Originally posted by roadrunner View PostGandhi worship is part of the Indian subculture. It's good for the Indian government to pacify its population and portray the global imagery of true low caste subservience.There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.
Sayyid Qutb
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Jinnah vs Gandhi. I suppose Jinnah is highly rated in Pakistan by some. But Jinnah, like Nehru, I suppose did help to push for independence.Originally posted by randolph85 View Postsimilar to pakistani jinnah worship.
Gandhi was some weirdo with a student mentality. His push for independence by boycotting some industries, enabled the industries elsewhere that were using more efficient mass production. He probably starved more people than would have occurred if he didn't drive so much business elsewhere.
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The quote was referring to the the huge army of Badshah Khan:Originally posted by roadrunner View Postand then you woke up.
non violence is never feared as you go about empire building. That has been the way throughout history.
"The imperial occupier 100 years ago was not the United States, but the British empire, and Khan raised a 100,000-strong unarmed, but uniformed and disciplined, nonviolent army to face down a vicious all-out violent assault in an isolated territory, with communication to the outside world cut off. The nonviolent Pashtun became more feared by the British than the violent."
Look at history. Gandhi was once asked if he really thought that nonviolence was the best way to resolve conflicts. "No" he replied. "Nonviolence is not the best way, it is the only way."
What is being used today violence or nonviolence? And are we at peace in the world?
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Yes I know, but he accepted it, that was the difference.Originally posted by Zayam View PostNeither Gandhi nor Badshah Khan were present at the ceremony of Britain leaving India. Both were against the partition. Both spent the time in prayer, not attending the ceremony according to Eknath Easwaran in the book, "Nonviolent Soldier of Islam: Badshah Khan A Man to Match His Mountains"
BBC News | World | The life and death of Mahatma Gandhi
Violent riots broke out over partitionNearly one million people died in the riots that ensued between Hindus and Muslims.
Mahatma Gandhi had always been against the partition. The year before he had said, "Before partitioning India, my body will have to be cut into two pieces."
But the alternative to partition was thought to be civil war between Hindus and Muslims, and so at the last minute Gandhi urged the Congress Party to accept partition.Last edited by khushal; 04-01-2011, 01:26 AM.
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Zayam, Don't bother with Road, he is about the stupidest person you could come across. His stupidity boggles the mind.Originally posted by Zayam View PostThe quote was referring to the the huge army of Badshah Khan:
"The imperial occupier 100 years ago was not the United States, but the British empire, and Khan raised a 100,000-strong unarmed, but uniformed and disciplined, nonviolent army to face down a vicious all-out violent assault in an isolated territory, with communication to the outside world cut off. The nonviolent Pashtun became more feared by the British than the violent."
Look at history. Gandhi was once asked if he really thought that nonviolence was the best way to resolve conflicts. "No" he replied. "Nonviolence is not the best way, it is the only way."
What is being used today violence or nonviolence? And are we at peace in the world?
But this whole non violent struggle is based on an essay "Civil Disobedience" written by Henry David Thoreau that was first published in 1849. It argues that people should not permit governments to overrule or atrophy their conscience, and that people have a duty to avoid allowing such acquiescence to enable the government to make them the agents of injustice.
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In other words, ignore RoadRunner, but he's right.Originally posted by khushal View PostZayam, Don't bother with Road, he is about the stupidest person you could come across. His stupidity boggles the mind.
But this whole non violent struggle is based on an essay "Civil Disobedience" written by Henry David Thoreau that was first published in 1849. It argues that people should not permit governments to overrule or atrophy their conscience, and that people have a duty to avoid allowing such acquiescence to enable the government to make them the agents of injustice.
You make a great clown.
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non violent and violent uprisings work in different contexts. if u were to try a non violent uprising against the mongols then ur entire family tree would be chopped down. if u were do it against a weakened and broke post ww2 british empire that was already looking to withdrawal from colonies that were more of a liability than an asset at the time, it might work.
look at what happened to mubarak, no one had to fire a gun at his regime for it to fall. time and place, its the difference between a successful revolution and maybe a blurb on wikipedia about a failed uprising.There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.
Sayyid Qutb
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not really.Originally posted by randolph85 View Postnon violent and violent uprisings work in different contexts. if u were to try a non violent uprising against the mongols then ur entire family tree would be chopped down. if u were do it against a weakened and broke post ww2 british empire that was already looking to withdrawal from colonies that were more of a liability than an asset at the time, it might work.
look at what happened to mubarak, no one had to fire a gun at his regime for it to fall. time and place, its the difference between a successful revolution and maybe a blurb on wikipedia about a failed uprising.
if a country finds hanging onto another country as a useful exercise, and all there is to stop it is an army of non violent buffoons, then naturally they will continue to hang onto it.
If negatives are introduced, such as violent confrontation, then the gap between it being a useful exercise and cost considerably narrows.
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