Mahatma Gandhi 'racist and bisexual' claims new book

[IamDZJ]

Well these allegations have been leveled before. It all depends on how you look at it.

Gandhi has himself stated that he slept naked with his teen niece to 'test' his will power. We can call him perverted ( I definitely do) but for him it was the ultimate test of his capability to resist temptation and hold steadfast to what he believed in.

i am not saying that i believe in this but no one has the right of putting their will power in to test at someone else's expense and then confess to the rest of the world about it too.

[roadrunner]

i have heard this stuff before. i really don't understand the gandhi worship by some people.

Gandhi worship is part of the Indian subculture. It's good for the Indian government to pacify its population and portray the global imagery of true low caste subservience.

[roadrunner]

Well these allegations have been leveled before. It all depends on how you look at it.

Gandhi has himself stated that he slept naked with his teen niece to 'test' his will power. We can call him perverted ( I definitely do) but for him it was the ultimate test of his capability to resist temptation and hold steadfast to what he believed in.

He probably missed a letter of will when discussing it.

you can tell he was a dirty bugger.

[Zayam]

Ghandi was a coward and a sellout. He gave in to British pressure of splitting the subcontinent which was a disservice to its inhabitants interests. If you notice how the British portrayed him through his life. They called him a terrorist and a fanatic when he was against the partition, when he gave in to British pressure and accepted the partition, all of a sudden he was a peace loving and great man that fought for the people of India. What a joke.

Neither Gandhi nor Badshah Khan were present at the ceremony of Britain leaving India. Both were against the partition. Both spent the time in prayer, not attending the ceremony according to Eknath Easwaran in the book, "Nonviolent Soldier of Islam: Badshah Khan A Man to Match His Mountains"

[randolph85]

Gandhi worship is part of the Indian subculture. It's good for the Indian government to pacify its population and portray the global imagery of true low caste subservience.

similar to pakistani jinnah worship.

[Zayam]

The nonviolent Pashtun became more feared by the British than the violent. The local people became more independent, self-sustaining, and prosperous. And they understood nonviolence to be the weapon of the strong.
......Mohammed Abbasi

[roadrunner]

and then you woke up.

non violence is never feared as you go about empire building. That has been the way throughout history.

[roadrunner]

similar to pakistani jinnah worship.

Jinnah vs Gandhi. I suppose Jinnah is highly rated in Pakistan by some. But Jinnah, like Nehru, I suppose did help to push for independence.

Gandhi was some weirdo with a student mentality. His push for independence by boycotting some industries, enabled the industries elsewhere that were using more efficient mass production. He probably starved more people than would have occurred if he didn't drive so much business elsewhere.

[Zayam]

and then you woke up.

non violence is never feared as you go about empire building. That has been the way throughout history.

The quote was referring to the the huge army of Badshah Khan:

"The imperial occupier 100 years ago was not the United States, but the British empire, and Khan raised a 100,000-strong unarmed, but uniformed and disciplined, nonviolent army to face down a vicious all-out violent assault in an isolated territory, with communication to the outside world cut off. The nonviolent Pashtun became more feared by the British than the violent."

Look at history. Gandhi was once asked if he really thought that nonviolence was the best way to resolve conflicts. "No" he replied. "Nonviolence is not the best way, it is the only way."

What is being used today violence or nonviolence? And are we at peace in the world?

[roadrunner]

Don't make me laugh zayam.

Any serious conquering/occupation force would love to be faced with 1,000 buffoons not willing to fight them.

[khushal]

Neither Gandhi nor Badshah Khan were present at the ceremony of Britain leaving India. Both were against the partition. Both spent the time in prayer, not attending the ceremony according to Eknath Easwaran in the book, "Nonviolent Soldier of Islam: Badshah Khan A Man to Match His Mountains"

Yes I know, but he accepted it, that was the difference.

BBC News | World | The life and death of Mahatma Gandhi
Violent riots broke out over partitionNearly one million people died in the riots that ensued between Hindus and Muslims.
Mahatma Gandhi had always been against the partition. The year before he had said, "Before partitioning India, my body will have to be cut into two pieces."
But the alternative to partition was thought to be civil war between Hindus and Muslims, and so at the last minute Gandhi urged the Congress Party to accept partition.

[khushal]

The quote was referring to the the huge army of Badshah Khan:

"The imperial occupier 100 years ago was not the United States, but the British empire, and Khan raised a 100,000-strong unarmed, but uniformed and disciplined, nonviolent army to face down a vicious all-out violent assault in an isolated territory, with communication to the outside world cut off. The nonviolent Pashtun became more feared by the British than the violent."

Look at history. Gandhi was once asked if he really thought that nonviolence was the best way to resolve conflicts. "No" he replied. "Nonviolence is not the best way, it is the only way."

What is being used today violence or nonviolence? And are we at peace in the world?

Zayam, Don't bother with Road, he is about the stupidest person you could come across. His stupidity boggles the mind.

But this whole non violent struggle is based on an essay "Civil Disobedience" written by Henry David Thoreau that was first published in 1849. It argues that people should not permit governments to overrule or atrophy their conscience, and that people have a duty to avoid allowing such acquiescence to enable the government to make them the agents of injustice.

[roadrunner]

Zayam, Don't bother with Road, he is about the stupidest person you could come across. His stupidity boggles the mind.

But this whole non violent struggle is based on an essay "Civil Disobedience" written by Henry David Thoreau that was first published in 1849. It argues that people should not permit governments to overrule or atrophy their conscience, and that people have a duty to avoid allowing such acquiescence to enable the government to make them the agents of injustice.

In other words, ignore RoadRunner, but he's right.

You make a great clown.

[randolph85]

non violent and violent uprisings work in different contexts. if u were to try a non violent uprising against the mongols then ur entire family tree would be chopped down. if u were do it against a weakened and broke post ww2 british empire that was already looking to withdrawal from colonies that were more of a liability than an asset at the time, it might work.

look at what happened to mubarak, no one had to fire a gun at his regime for it to fall. time and place, its the difference between a successful revolution and maybe a blurb on wikipedia about a failed uprising.

[roadrunner]

non violent and violent uprisings work in different contexts. if u were to try a non violent uprising against the mongols then ur entire family tree would be chopped down. if u were do it against a weakened and broke post ww2 british empire that was already looking to withdrawal from colonies that were more of a liability than an asset at the time, it might work.

look at what happened to mubarak, no one had to fire a gun at his regime for it to fall. time and place, its the difference between a successful revolution and maybe a blurb on wikipedia about a failed uprising.

not really.

if a country finds hanging onto another country as a useful exercise, and all there is to stop it is an army of non violent buffoons, then naturally they will continue to hang onto it.

If negatives are introduced, such as violent confrontation, then the gap between it being a useful exercise and cost considerably narrows.