democracy: best system ever or an utter failure?

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Ok, you’ve got a point there.

Not really, it's not paying taxes thats bring challenged , but paying it to a haram democracy. Why doesn't he hijra to Saudi?

[Elias]

Not really, it's not paying taxes thats bring challenged , but paying it to a haram democracy. Why doesn't he hijra to Saudi?

I thought of his passport being confiscated cause he might be a potential endangerment. Some countries do that.
But if it’s not that case then yes you are right he’s just bluffing and romantizing the beduin lifestyle he never experienced.

[ذو الفقار]

Go to Saudi,

Easier said than done. How would I become a citizen?

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Ok, you’ve got a point there.

Easier said than done. How would I become a citizen?

Why do you need to become a citizen. That's not a a basis for any of this.

[ذو الفقار]

Why do you need to become a citizen. That's not a a basis for any of this.

Why do I need to become a citizen? So they don't deport me why else?

[Elias]

Why do I need to become a citizen? So they don't deport me why else?

You can fly to Saudi Arabia and then burn your passport. They can’t deport you if you don’t have a passport or if they can’t find out your nationality.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Why do I need to become a citizen? So they don't deport me why else?

You can apply for a worker's visa or something ...., but for hijra ....you don't need to become one.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

You can fly to Saudi Arabia and then burn your passport. They can’t deport you if you don’t have a passport or if they can’t find out your nationality.

He can also do a visa ...and work towards citizen. It may take awhile but if he's genuine about his beliefs, that's nothing.

Saudi Arabian nationality law - Wikipedia

[Elias]

He can also do a visa ...and work towards citizen. It may take awhile but if he's genuine about his beliefs, that's nothing.

Saudi Arabian nationality law - Wikipedia

We got him
‘It was at this moment that Zulfiqar knew that he fckd up.’

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

We got him
‘It was at this moment that Zulfiqar knew that he fckd up.’

The guy's paper mache' and full of fluff.....like I jhave an alternate way to explain why we live in Secular/Democratic countries but he's too much of an ideologue and not a pragmatist so he inherently falls into contradiction.

[Elias]

The guy's paper mache' and full of fluff.....like I jhave an alternate way to explain why we live in Secular/Democratic countries but he's too much of an ideologue and not a pragmatist so he inherently falls into contradiction.

It’s a stage of his life and he’ll get over it. Especially the confrontation with you will accelerate this phase of his life to an end :D.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

It’s a stage of his life and he’ll get over it. Especially the confrontation with you will accelerate this phase of his life to an end :D.

I doubt that lol ...but it's more to show the world who may oberve the exchange that his side is bogus and full of crap. So people may steer clear of it in the future. If he was just into it for himself, who cares?

[Nekrofrost]

Zulfiqar

How do you justify saudis eating lizard?

Not trying to justify but the argument ive heard is that they raise the lizards in a different way and make em eat **** like plants when they catch them to make them halal.

[ذو الفقار]

Not trying to justify but the argument ive heard is that they raise the lizards in a different way and make em eat **** like plants when they catch them to make them halal.

What the lizard eats is inconsequential to its status of being Halal or Haram.

The truth is, lizard is Haraam li Dhaatihi (forbidden in its essence).

Coincidentally, I wrote an article on this issue on my blog back in June

رَبَّ جِبْرِيلَ وَمِيكَائِيلَ وَإِسْرَافِيلَ أَعِذْنِي مِنْ حَرِّ النَّارِ وَعَذَابِ الْقَبْرِ: Lizard Meat is Haram

عَنْ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ بْنِ شِبْلٍ، أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم نَهَى عَنْ أَكْلِ لَحْمِ الضَّبِّ

Narrated Abdur Rahman ibn Shibl: The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) forbade to eat the flesh of lizard. (Abi Dawud)

Even human nature (Fitra) considers eating a lizard repulsive, which should give you some indication. Furthermore, lizard is expressly declared as impure and unlawful to eat in the Torah (Laws of Moses - Leviticus 11:30), the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) simply continued this ruling because lizard truly is an impure animal not fit for human consumption

[salman47]

Easier said than done. How would I become a citizen?

You have to wait till the oil's finished(or Arabs become worthless).