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    Whats your stance on democracy?
    "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
    I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

    -Ferdowsi.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
    Whats your stance on democracy?
    I oppose it. The fundamental principle of Islam is sovereignty rests with God, including legislative sovereignty. I've never cast a ballot in my life and never will
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    • #3
      How can a stupid persons vote be the same as that of a wise person?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by ذو الفقار View Post
        I oppose it. The fundamental principle of Islam is sovereignty rests with God, including legislative sovereignty. I've never cast a ballot in my life and never will
        I was expecting some non-religious opinions, dude.
        "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
        I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

        -Ferdowsi.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Kakar-Wardak View Post
          How can a stupid persons vote be the same as that of a wise person?
          I think the main problem with democracy is that we are always being told how great it is. People downplay or reject all the dark side of democracy which are moral relativism, buffon-populist politicians, majority of people are s tupid and emotional, equality doesn't exist, highly dysfunctional, puts the interest of the individuals over the the collective interests,.. and since elections take place every four to five years, that means governments will always pursuit the short-term politics/measures.

          When people say the West has gone 100% secular I laugh. They do have a God: its called democracy. Dont dare to say something negative about it or you will get stoned to death lol
          "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
          I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

          -Ferdowsi.

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          • #6
            Its flawed af because when there is a system where the majority have all the authority the minority is ****ed and will most likely also be opressed. Not to forget that with democracy there isnt really much individual liberties

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Nekrofrost View Post
              Its flawed af because when there is a system where the majority have all the authority the minority is ****ed and will most likely also be opressed. Not to forget that with democracy there isnt really much individual liberties
              Thats because slaves now are owned by the state not by other individuals. The Western world lives in bureaucratic dictatorship where the state milks the people since they are born after they are death to sustain an unsustainable system. Democracy is no different than other totalitarian ideologies basically because it promotes also "social atomism".

              I dont agree regarding the minority part. There is something called the rule of law which protects the rights of everyone, minority included. The rule of the majority can not be above the principle of legality.
              "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
              I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

              -Ferdowsi.

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              • #8
                It's better than any current models of theocracy ...but doesn't mean it's great.

                Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                don’t try to be smart.

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                • #9
                  I’m for grassroots democracy not the democracy in the US or Europe where you choose your Fuhrer.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Nekrofrost View Post
                    Its flawed af because when there is a system where the majority have all the authority the minority is ****ed and will most likely also be opressed. Not to forget that with democracy there isnt really much individual liberties
                    Agreed, comrade.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ذو الفقار View Post
                      I oppose it. The fundamental principle of Islam is sovereignty rests with God, including legislative sovereignty. I've never cast a ballot in my life and never will
                      I’ve started taking you into my heart not for what you say but for your endurance and living in your own world and not giving a single fck lol
                      Last edited by Elias; 11-10-2017, 07:22 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ذو الفقار View Post
                        I oppose it. The fundamental principle of Islam is sovereignty rests with God, including legislative sovereignty. I've never cast a ballot in my life and never will
                        Islam is not against democracy. Shura is democratic.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Kakar-Wardak View Post
                          How can a stupid persons vote be the same as that of a wise person?
                          the rights of a stupid person should be equal to a wise person.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by khushal View Post
                            Islam is not against democracy. Shura is democratic.
                            Like how are people supposed to get things done related to social welfare, educational and healthcare spending, infrastructure development. These Theocracy fanboys are insane.

                            Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                            Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                            don’t try to be smart.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
                              Whats your stance on democracy?
                              True democracies don't exist because they don't work. Democratic republics aren't true democracies so one has to judge them on their constitution.

                              The American constitution is pretty good but many governments have violated it.

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