Afghan/Pashtun Forum Conspiracy Theories

[Azmal]

Its excellent you called her by the surname she uses in Europe. Ask her next time why she is mad at what she legally utilizes as her authorship/PhD official name? Then ask her why she truncates her surname off in the Eastern press/Afghanistan-Pakistan dailies. The answer is that she knows .0000001% of Pashtuns worth their salt would even listen to the next word she has to say because she has pretty much broken every Pashtun custom and culture (even the most sacred ones) and then on top of that dedicated her life to advocating bombing of her own people. All of it has been done with subpar slip shod sh-itty data at best.

Keep up the good work.

I have issue with notation of what "% of Pashtuns worth their salt" for based on my personal experience I find Pashtuns to be pragmatic and realistic. However simply claiming the "right" moral values does not improve the group's moral image when this is not in line with it's core goals and identity. Instead groups are seen as more honest and sincere when they admits to their interests and core values. So lets stop shaaf shaaf... and go to Shaftaloo....we need to know your personal opinion about this... Do you think Afghan girl has right to marry whoever she sees fits?
Second...how is over simplifying Pashtuns as religious zealots can benefit our core interests? Off course I'm not talking about those few Pathans in bed with Pakistani establishment that are cashing our blood(which your family could or could not be one of them) I mean interest of majority of Pashtuns....keeping in my the great game that is being played with our blood.
I'm all ears...lets have a productive discussion.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

I have issue with notation of what "% of Pashtuns worth their salt" for based on my personal experience I find Pashtuns to be pragmatic and realistic. However simply claiming the "right" moral values does not improve the group's moral image when this is not in line with it's core goals and identity. Instead groups are seen as more honest and sincere when they admits to their interests and core values. So lets stop shaaf shaaf... and go to Shaftaloo....we need to know your personal opinion about this... Do you think Afghan girl has right to marry whoever she sees fits?

No one, male or female, has the "right" to marry who they see fit without defining what fit is. Is it financially fit? Spiritually fit? Culturally fit? Gender wise fit? The Pashtuns and other local groups have defined what is fit in their locale for a long long time.

Second...how is over simplifying Pashtuns as religious zealots can benefit our core interests?

Zealotry has nothing to do with autonomy and the use, part and parcel of the "free the brown Muslim woman" narrative used by imperials and their toadies. The two can overlap. Cultural values in the locale are well known. You are welcome to research them and investigate well disseminated surveys regarding social mores

Off course I'm not talking about those few Pathans in bed with Pakistani establishment that are cashing our blood(which your family could or could not be one of them)

Could not. I could care less about this narrative where anyone opposing westernization at the barrel end of the gun is considered in bed with Pakistanis. Pakistanis may enable it, but they are not the ones hanging Afghans from meat hooks in the freezing cold:

Inside the CIA’s black site torture room | US news | The Guardian

This is an attempt to utilize a brand of logic called "whataboutism" where the greater ill and those that partake in it point towards an irrelevant factor and pretend it is the greater ill.


I mean interest of majority of Pashtuns....keeping in my the great game that is being played with our blood.
I'm all ears...lets have a productive discussion.

Conspiracy theories about Pakistanis in drag being the masterminds of all the world's ills (a theory even Karzai has now dropped), acceptances of narratives that paint our people as rapist savages that require secular civilizing are simply not a good cup of productive tea:
Fake news: 'Mass sexual assault' by refugees at New Year in Germany | Middle East Eye

If you drop those repetitive and clearly debunked narratives, then true productivity can be achieved.

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[Iblis_Efreetzai]

He is not that a little...lol

You watch some strange porn Azmal lol

[Akbar]

what a mess

[Firdousi]

ahahahha lol You got my protection as long as you forgo your subtle passive aggressive anti-Pashtun bull****. Truth be told I'm not a nationalist, I do love my people Pashtuns but it does not mean I will irrationally support pashtun...for me a patriotic Hindu Afghan have more value and respect then a sold out Pashtun.
Reminds me of this Dari poem....

"تا جدا هستیم انگشتان افگاریم ما/مشت اگر گردیم از آن دندانها خواهد شکست!

Thank you. But now prove you are a Pashtun.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Thank you. But now prove you are a Pashtun.

In 2007 he had a nervous breakdown and splurged $500 om Amazon for Pashtu instructional books, if that isn't Pashtun, what is?

[Firdousi]

In 2007 he had a nervous breakdown and splurged $500 om Amazon for Pashtu instructional books, if that isn't Pashtun, what is?

Man, thats the darkest side of nationalism: inferiority complex and identity confusion. Some people are so worthless, so useless, that they need to identity with "something bigger" in order to feel good. I think this applies to Azmal jaan

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Man, thats the darkest side of nationalism: inferiority complex and identity confusion. Some people are so worthless, so useless, that they need to identity with "something bigger" in order to feel good. I think this applies to Azmal jaan

Despite his obnoxious antics ....he's actually a really nice guy, some of his views are actually sound ...like the way we treat women is deplorable and should be addressed and changed ....his solution of encouraging women to run loose however, is not sound.....he tries really hard,,,,,and thinks if he acts zealous enough by calling people "Amu Jumpers" or "Pathans" that it'll mean that he's "legit" ...but some of us here have a good memory , so we just face palm and feel bad for him.

[Firdousi]

Despite his obnoxious antics ....he's actually a really nice guy, some of his views are actually sound ...like the way we treat women is deplorable and should be addressed and changed ....his solution of encouraging women to run loose however, is not sound.....he tries really hard,,,,,and thinks if he acts zealous enough by calling people "Amu Jumpers" or "Pathans" that it'll mean that he's "legit" ...but some of us here have a good memory , so we just face palm and feel bad for him.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day, bro.

Azmal might be a psycho nationalist, but that doesnt mean he is always wrong. I don't know him, so I can't judge him. He might be a nice guy as you point out, after all this is the internet, and people behave like MF and monkeys here lol

[Elite Pakhtun]

I'm just surprise how you can brag about a ****y house in Islamabad that you got by selling to cultureless paan chewing Bangra dancers and by ending up calling Gujrati Ali Ponjah Baba?

What makes you think it's so ****ty? What's rong with it?

There are one million Pashtun refugees from Waziristan homeless, Pashtunistan resources are being robbed and millions of Pashtuns of Pashtunsitan have become either refugees or cheap laborer or being slathered for sake of Punjab...yet you....

The whole region is cheap labor.

Agreed that Punjab has had disproportionate gains. But there is plenty of Punjabi cheap labor if you're interested.

What interest had the leaders of Afghanistan in an outpost like Moscow, had it not been to seek reversal against a historical parable of grave injustice of Durand line?

If you want to reverse that you should look at India first, as the borders extended into that country as well.

You know...for as long as history recalls, no indigenous leader south of the Indus river has ever managed to subdue Kabul or even dared to try. Yet for the first time in this region’s history (both modern and ancient), lowlife scoundrels like you managed to allow the Punjabis and their Mohajeer cousins to occupy Kabul via their proxies. This is a shame you’ll have to live with, for your beghirati is all yours and yours alone!

You're giving me way too much credit. Blame probably falls on others, rather than credit to any one person.

Pakistan is not just bund-jabi. Pashtuns from pak subdued Afghans.

We Afghans know it very well that until Pakistan burns in flames it ignited in Afghan land(both Afghanistan and occupied Pashtunistan) in the future, we will have to help ourselves by staying on guard against all of their negative efforts at destroying our nation. History is my witness we Afghans always over comes our enemies and make no mistake we will burn Punjab your house including.

Why do you hate my house so much? It's not that bad.

Pakhtuns will overcome their enemies you mean. Its not about Afghanistan. You guys played with fire and it didn't work. You tried befriending India and Soviets so that they could enter pak and access waters. Its the India part thats to blame.

**** India. Its garbage. You can keep dancing for them to earn little bits of money while people whistle.

But the reality is very simple. ASD made a tactical error. That's the cause of all this.

[khushal]

...for me a patriotic Hindu Afghan have more value and respect then a sold out Pashtun.
Reminds me of this Dari poem....

"تا جدا هستیم انگشتان افگاریم ما/مشت اگر گردیم از آن دندانها خواهد شکست!

That depends on the definition of what "sold out" is. You yourself said that freegan are great and at the same time admit that freegan policy extreminized your own people which, logically, proves that you love extremism.

[khushal]

What does what he said have anything to do with your response?

The guy is a weakling when it comes to debate because he stands on false contradictory narratives.