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  • #16
    Originally posted by Baserka View Post
    You are not most Pashtuns. You are just some ignorant **** who doesn't even understand basic Pashto, remember??


    No. I understand Pashto fine... my vocabulary is just a little weak (I didn't know Shunday was lips). Other than that, it's pretty much fine. Why do you lie so much?

    As a matter of fact, Pashto is not even your first language.
    Who said that? It's my mother tongue, which is the same thing as "first language". Do I speak it as much any more? No. Am I as good at it as I was before living abroad? Definitely not. Living all over the world made me adept at English, so I tend to use that a bit more. But your terms are inaccurate.

    To write poetry in a language, you have to admire that language and the people who speak it. We have been living amongst each other peacefully for many years before the disease of a country named Pakistan erupted next door. This hatred that you spill all over the mindsets of our people is responsible for the state that our country is in today.
    No it's not. Foreign invaders, including India, are responsible. By allying with the Soviets, and India (something you guys forget to mention) in the 70s (fresh from the wounds of East Pak), it became a threat for enough outside parties to use Pakistan to intervene. I'm not defending Pak. But they didn't really have a choice in the matter.

    Let's not forget why Pakistan came into being to begin with. ASD didn't finish the job on the sikh punjabis. He had time and resources to do it... he just ignored them after the first ghallughara, and was a bit late to conduct treatment after the second.


    And the only people that you can convince with your bull**** are haramies that are of no use to begin with. You kiss their assets and they will kiss yours in return the way your forefathers have been kissing panjabi ass for decades and we will see who lasts and how long too. You filthy, disgusting, uncultured animal of a Pathan. Stick to your naswar obsession and keep out of matters that do not concern you.
    As opposed to your forefathers kissing foorsi, Soviet and now Indian asses, and having an inferiority complex when compared to all things foorsi? It's as if you guys have quasi-admitted that Farsi is superior, and now you're slowly trying to become a farsi. I put on videos of "pashto" TV shows in Afghanistan, and I can barely understand wtf they're saying. It sounds like Farsi to me.

    The good things Afghanistan has is preserving Pashto culture etc (although much of the movies, and music, came from Pak, but we'll ignore that for now).. yet you can't see that CERTAIN (not all) Tajik types have a vested interest in beating the war drums on the Eastern side of your country's borders. I daresay we're more on your side than you realize, you just choose not to pay attention to it, or you have merely sold out to the very people that are the problem.

    If the people you're defending had their way, you guys would just end up shooting yourself in the foot.
    Last edited by Elite Pakhtun; 07-13-2017, 01:01 AM.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Elite Pakhtun View Post


      No. I understand Pashto fine... my vocabulary is just a little weak (I didn't know Shunday was lips). Other than that, it's pretty much fine. Why do you lie so much?

      Who said that? It's my mother tongue, which is the same thing as "first language". Do I speak it as much any more? No. Am I as good at it as I was before living abroad? Definitely not. Living all over the world made me adept at English, so I tend to use that a bit more. But your terms are inaccurate.

      No it's not. Foreign invaders, including India, are responsible. By allying with the Soviets, and India (something you guys forget to mention) in the 70s (fresh from the wounds of East Pak), it became a threat for enough outside parties to use Pakistan to intervene. I'm not defending Pak. But they didn't really have a choice in the matter.

      Let's not forget why Pakistan came into being to begin with. ASD didn't finish the job on the sikh punjabis. He had time and resources to do it... he just ignored them after the first ghallughara, and was a bit late to conduct treatment after the second.


      As opposed to your forefathers kissing foorsi, Soviet and now Indian asses, and having an inferiority complex when compared to all things foorsi? It's as if you guys have quasi-admitted that Farsi is superior, and now you're slowly trying to become a farsi. I put on videos of "pashto" TV shows in Afghanistan, and I can barely understand wtf they're saying. It sounds like Farsi to me.

      The good things Afghanistan has is preserving Pashto culture etc (although much of the movies, and music, came from Pak, but we'll ignore that for now).. yet you can't see that CERTAIN (not all) Tajik types have a vested interest in beating the war drums on the Eastern side of your country's borders. I daresay we're more on your side than you realize, you just choose not to pay attention to it, or you have merely sold out to the very people that are the problem.

      If the people you're defending had their way, you guys would just end up shooting yourself in the foot.


      It sounds like Farsi to you, a person who has given up his first language to English because it's easier to "adapt" to?? I put any Pathan channel and all I hear is panch and do. It doesn't sound like Urdu, it is urdu because I can surely tell the difference between Urdu and Pashto and am not guessing it like a moron who gave up his mother's tongue for the convenience of another.

      And as for allying with India or someone else.. we will ally with whoever we please. Build your damn border fence and keep your filth to yourself. Our allying with India has nothing to do with you poisoning our mindsets against our own people but since that is the type of snake like behaviour you people thrive on, you wouldn't know anything about that.

      Instead of worrying about what afghans play in their television, worry about sitting with a family member and carrying a conversation in Pashto that would ensure plausibility for your supposed concern for Pashtuns of not your own pathanistan and then Afghanistan. Khpal kona sambalawole nashe, noro pase spyano ghunde ghaape.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Baserka View Post


        It sounds like Farsi to you, a person who has given up his first language to English because it's easier to "adapt" to??


        Shpaglass kaal de Canaday ke terr ko, ao ussa poray angrazi am na razi. I said I am ADEPT at English, i.e. I am very good at it. You confused ADEPT for ADAPT. Zama khyal de che taa ta ba de "adept" lafz matlab ba de pata am na wo.

        And as for allying with India or someone else.. we will ally with whoever we please. Build your damn border fence and keep your filth to yourself. Our allying with India has nothing to do with you poisoning our mindsets against our own people but since that is the type of snake like behaviour you people thrive on, you wouldn't know anything about that.

        Instead of worrying about what afghans play in their television, worry about sitting with a family member and carrying a conversation in Pashto that would ensure plausibility for your supposed concern for Pashtuns of not your own pathanistan and then Afghanistan. Khpal kona sambalawole nashe, noro pase spyano ghunde ghaape.
        That's your response? "Worry about other things." Just like you, I'll do what I feel like doing. If you don't like it, you should seek help. Might be good to do even if you do like it.
        Last edited by Elite Pakhtun; 07-13-2017, 02:09 AM.

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        • #19
          Ay khudaya ..da dzj lar shundey dera lunda swey di

          Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


          Originally posted by ذو الفقار
          don’t try to be smart.

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          • #20
            [MENTION=19566]Elite Pakhtun[/MENTION]
            Not knowing that shunday means lips shows that your vocabulary is weaker than 'just a bit weak' . Khair , I don't blame you at all. You do write Pashto fine generally.And you are much better than many expat Pashtuns who don't speak Pashto at all.

            [MENTION=19965]Baserka[/MENTION], you also make mistakes when writing Pashto , you write many feminine things as masculine.Your vocabulary is better I would say , as a whole we Pakistani Pashtuns do overuse Urdu and English in our Pashto.
            The Pashto of Afghan TV channels is also very good , I give that to you.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Elite Pakhtun View Post


              Shpaglass kaal de Canaday ke terr ko, ao ussa poray angrazi am na razi. I said I am ADEPT at English, i.e. I am very good at it. You confused ADEPT for ADAPT. Zama khyal de che taa ta ba de "adept" lafz matlab ba de pata am na wo.

              That's your response? "Worry about other things." Just like you, I'll do what I feel like doing. If you don't like it, you should seek help. Might be good to do even if you do like it.
              Bro its shparass , not shpaglass .

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              • #22
                Originally posted by toughpashtun View Post
                Bro its shparass , not shpaglass .
                We also say "shparrlas" (شپاړلس) for sixteen, and "shaparrlasam" for sixteenth.......but never heard of 'shpaglas'

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Baserka View Post


                  It sounds like Farsi to you, a person who has given up his first language to English because it's easier to "adapt" to?? I put any Pathan channel and all I hear is panch and do. It doesn't sound like Urdu, it is urdu because I can surely tell the difference between Urdu and Pashto and am not guessing it like a moron who gave up his mother's tongue for the convenience of another.

                  And as for allying with India or someone else.. we will ally with whoever we please. Build your damn border fence and keep your filth to yourself. Our allying with India has nothing to do with you poisoning our mindsets against our own people but since that is the type of snake like behaviour you people thrive on, you wouldn't know anything about that.

                  Instead of worrying about what afghans play in their television, worry about sitting with a family member and carrying a conversation in Pashto that would ensure plausibility for your supposed concern for Pashtuns of not your own pathanistan and then Afghanistan. Khpal kona sambalawole nashe, noro pase spyano ghunde ghaape.
                  This is Pashtun forums, not Afghanistan defence forums. We're here to promote unity between lar and bar instead of promoting division by casting doubt on the Pashtunness of other Pashtuns. Promote your petty watan parasti somewhere else.
                  Also I rarely hear people say do and panch when they're speaking Pashto. For the small numbers(1-10) the pure Pashto terms are almost always used. Urdu numbers become common after you pass 20, and even then for "clean" numbers(e.g. 30, 40, 50, 100, 150, 200, 300 etc.) the pure Pashto terms are used more often than Urdu ones. And most people can count in pashto fine even if they use urdu numbers, I personally always use pure pashto numbers and people understand me perfectly.
                  Originally posted by Kaushika

                  majority of Hilly Rajputs are the product of these cross breeding and want to disassociate with their past. rajputs with rajwadi surnames consider themeselves superior but those native kings who look darker gets mocked as "gola" (mix breed, son of rakhile) so they actually invite light skinned rajputs and kshatriya tribes from Jammu region such as jamwals to sleep with their women so that their wives can give birth to pure white looking Native Child.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Elite Pakhtun View Post


                    Shpaglass kaal de Canaday ke terr ko, ao ussa poray angrazi am na razi. I said I am ADEPT at English, i.e. I am very good at it. You confused ADEPT for ADAPT. Zama khyal de che taa ta ba de "adept" lafz matlab ba de pata am na wo.

                    That's your response? "Worry about other things." Just like you, I'll do what I feel like doing. If you don't like it, you should seek help. Might be good to do even if you do like it.
                    Dude. On average throughout my life since I was very young I have spent 11 out of 12 months in a non-Pashto speaking area yet I don't ever remember not knowing what shunday meant, and that was even a few years back when my Pashto had become pretty messed up. Also, although I learned what shparras was a little later in life I don't ever thing I've confidently said "shpaglas" without getting a feeling that I was saying it wrong. Pa kar de che andaza darta lagi che "za da ttakay ghalat wayam."
                    Originally posted by Kaushika

                    majority of Hilly Rajputs are the product of these cross breeding and want to disassociate with their past. rajputs with rajwadi surnames consider themeselves superior but those native kings who look darker gets mocked as "gola" (mix breed, son of rakhile) so they actually invite light skinned rajputs and kshatriya tribes from Jammu region such as jamwals to sleep with their women so that their wives can give birth to pure white looking Native Child.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Traveller View Post
                      This is Pashtun forums, not Afghanistan defence forums. We're here to promote unity between lar and bar instead of promoting division by casting doubt on the Pashtunness of other Pashtuns. Promote your petty watan parasti somewhere else.
                      Also I rarely hear people say do and panch when they're speaking Pashto. For the small numbers(1-10) the pure Pashto terms are almost always used. Urdu numbers become common after you pass 20, and even then for "clean" numbers(e.g. 30, 40, 50, 100, 150, 200, 300 etc.) the pure Pashto terms are used more often than Urdu ones. And most people can count in pashto fine even if they use urdu numbers, I personally always use pure pashto numbers and people understand me perfectly.

                      The interference of Pathans in Afghan affairs has ruined the lives of many Afghan Pashtuns. I don't care about what people believe about themselves, as long as they don't use it to make the lives of people in my country hell.
                      I don't care how Pashtun Pathans are or what language they use in their households but when you can not speak basic Pashto in your own household and can not be bothered to learn it, YOU DONT GET TO TALK ABOUT HOW ITS SPOKEN IN SOMEONE ELSES HOUSE OR TV CHANNELS.

                      Why does the essence of your existence has to be based on separating our people?? Why can't you be you without separating us?? WHY??


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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Baserka View Post

                        The interference of Pathans in Afghan affairs has ruined the lives of many Afghan Pashtuns. I don't care about what people believe about themselves, as long as they don't use it to make the lives of people in my country hell.
                        I don't care how Pashtun Pathans are or what language they use in their households but when you can not speak basic Pashto in your own household and can not be bothered to learn it, YOU DONT GET TO TALK ABOUT HOW ITS SPOKEN IN SOMEONE ELSES HOUSE OR TV CHANNELS.

                        Why does the essence of your existence has to be based on separating our people?? Why can't you be you without separating us?? WHY??


                        How many tears did you shed when you were writing this post?
                        Originally posted by Kaushika

                        majority of Hilly Rajputs are the product of these cross breeding and want to disassociate with their past. rajputs with rajwadi surnames consider themeselves superior but those native kings who look darker gets mocked as "gola" (mix breed, son of rakhile) so they actually invite light skinned rajputs and kshatriya tribes from Jammu region such as jamwals to sleep with their women so that their wives can give birth to pure white looking Native Child.

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                        • #27

                          What you speak and how you speak it is none of my business but who I live with and how I speak my language is none of your business.
                          And as common sense would have it, you can not be a judge of how pure of a language being spoken in a country is, if you can not speak it yourself or be bothered to learn it.

                          It is that simple.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Baserka View Post
                            You kiss their assets and they will kiss yours in return the way your forefathers have been kissing panjabi ass for decades and we will see who lasts and how long too.
                            Well damn, the cat has come out of the bag. What have 'Panjabis' done to you lady? If Pakistan and Panjabis did interfere in your country, it's been over 30 years. Now you have Indian consulates and Americans guiding you, yet you people are still in your position and continue to come to backwards Panjabi Pakistani state.

                            I have nothing to say regarding the inter-Pashtun debate you guys are having, but stop trying to scapegoat Pakistan.

                            All you ignorant fools think about is Pakistan when we are not even involved in your country anymore. Now you have western and indian agencies raising different factions of militants in your country, yet you Afghans still blame Pakistan for the miserable state that you are in. Your leaders are puppets and the most corrupt in the entire world after our own. We have nothing to do with you people other than a border fence. What Pashtun Pakistanis think about you is their own prerogative.

                            Guess what! Even after sending Afghan refugees back, many of them are still in our cities. Even in backwards 'Panjab'. Maybe you should start a colony for them in Canada and start migrating them towards you. Looks like all of your Dari speaking doesn't help you guys in Iran. Nor does ghulami for Indians get you anything. After kissing farsi and hindu asses, all of your people are still earning their bread and butter in Panjabi Pakistan.

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                            • #29
                              Yeah because living somewhere as a refugee is whole lot worse than being discovered in a cave, looking like an animal and running a suicide bomb training camp in someone else's country, or, waking up one day, being surrounded choppers and suddenly realizing you are Osama bin laden and bein sheltered in filthistan.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Baserka View Post
                                Yeah because living somewhere as a refugee is whole lot worse than being discovered in a cave, looking like an animal and running a suicide bomb training camp in someone else's country, or, waking up one day, being surrounded choppers and suddenly realizing you are Osama bin laden and bein sheltered in filthistan.
                                It's really bad when millions of those refugees go to 'terrorist ravaged filthistan' rather than brotherly countries like Iran, India, and Canada. I think you should start telling your people how bad we are and to stop coming here.

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