Is Pakistan going back to Pre 80's era of Booze , Bikini's and Bars ?

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Europe is sending back Afghanis, 100,000 already been deported. Main reason is gang rapes of women workers in refugee centers by afghani men. Since you consider any independent women akin to being sex worker and to be raped. Same mentality is shown by afghani refugees in europe where western women are considered ***** by them. You will need to change this mentality of yours and respect women even if she's outside home and without burka.

Why Pakistani will claim to be afghani? Just to be deported back to Kabul?

I don't know YOU Tell me ...I'm not the one who makes these news stories.

Four Pakistani Teenagers Arrested For Gangrape Of A Boy In Greek Refugee Camp - Indiatimes.com

Greek police have arrested four Pakistani minors who were in the country as refugees for the gangrape of a boy inside a refugee camp.

Most of them have entered Europe illegally pretending to be from the conflict zones in Afghanistan.

Earlier this year EU had began deporting Pakistani asylum seekers as they were identified as economic migrants and not people feeling conflict or facing threat to their lives.

Are you sure you weren't just flipping the narrative of these news story because the cognitive dissonance of seeing "Pakistanis gang rapes" and "pretending to be from Afghanistan" was a humungous blow to your self esteem?

You're in such denial it's comedic.

[Karachi]

Shut up cockroach, this site was better when you were on vacation. India must be annihilated. **** em. Ghazwa-e-hind!!!!!!!!

how is you eliminate India? from your paki pathan fart?

[ZarakDurrani606]

Western civilisation will collapse? Probably because of some mass extinction event along with rest of the world. Apart from that only their influence on other countries will decrease with rise of India and China civilisation.

About your cultural point. Lets take example of Afghanistan where majority of people are homosexual as per American army reports. Someone made thread on that on this forum. Hideous crime of rape Bacha bazi is rampant in so called conservative country.

Giving women space, freedom to work, move around, decision in marrying etc will not turn them in to porn stars.

I don't think people in villages live happy life. As soon as they are given opportunity for better life somewhere else, they move out. Karachi is filled by rural pakhtuns.

Just know this, cuckold indian. Keep your grubby, slimey hands off of us Pashtuns. You want to endorse liberalism? Go on ahead. You want to sell your mum and sister (euphemism) to stoke your insrcurities and to be rendered relevant? Go ahead, we're not gonna miss your kind. But keep your "reforms" relegated to punjab and the rest of paki. You come on up here with this drivel....... you're gonna have a whole lot of trouble. Our culture and people's are superior, relegate your ideas to yourself since you've already established that you're a spineless, indic slave. Chained to the idea of western cultural society that your white masters left ensconced in your mind. And if you call me an outsider or an Afghan, just know that it's not me that's expressing these views.... a grand tour of Khyber will give you people quite a shock.

[Pakistan]

American Pakistanis are usially well off, however, that's because they're a brain drain for Pakistan, which means Pakistan's skilled labor has been taken by America. Not sure if that's something to be proud of.

As for British Pakistanis

http://www.economist.com/news/britain/21644155-britain-bangladeshis-have-overtaken-pakistanis-credit-poor-job-market-when-they-arrived

Are you sure you're not just a lapdog for the Paki elite?

Aid to Pakistan by the Numbers | Center For Global Development







This is what I was saying earlier; Cherry picking new sources that are vague enough to fit a certain narrative. From ANOTHER United Nations affiliated site.

Countries of the Third World - Nations Online Project





Your metric for improvement is cuckoldry and groveling for farangay techno-DJs, if that's what you mean then yeah.




It's you that came to us in hopes of redeeming your sense of esteem. Not the other way around.

So whats stopping Afghan's to be successful like Pakistani's ? All over the world you will see Pakistani's studying hard subjects like Sciences , Engineering , Physics and on the other hand the Afghans that are studying abroad are usually in arts and history . Its the mentality that comes with being an Afghan . I was talking about the fund refugees get not the Pakistani govt . You were talking about refugee fund which is in few millions . As for American aid , Developed nations like Israel and UK have gotten more American aid than us while India is the biggest beneficiary of American aid .

Third world is not even a term . The correct term is LDC . As for your list where is Pakistan there ? Your HDI is from 2011 . According to the latest HDI Pakistan Progressed from low HDI to medium . LDC , HDI , Happiness Index , corruption Index Pakistan is progressing to mid tables now . Along with being a Military power who is now Exporting Fighter Jets to Nigeria and Myanmar .

Why would we come to prove anything to you? This is a Pashtun forum not Afghanistan . Notice how Pakistani threads on economy , development get alot of replies from the Afghan side showing their insecurities while the ones with Afghan development literally get no replies even by Afghan posters themselves .

As for celebs/Personalities visiting us why shouldn't we be happy for that ? Ronaldinho is coming this June to play a match it's good for the people , good for Football in Pakistan . If somebody doesn't want to come to Afghanistan that isn't our fault .

[Pakistan]

Which tells us nothing basically since Fraudulent Credentials and Documents is a big business in Pakistan.

Refworld | Pakistan: Fraudulent documents other than identity documents, including methods of obtaining fraudulent documents and assessing the credibility of fraudulent documents; First Information Reports (FIRs), newspaper articles, academic qualifications, and land ownership titles




..meanwhile in Pakistan indeed lol

You must be really stupid if you think American and British Hospitals hire Pakistani doctors over fraudulent Documents . My Fiance is doing her American medical electives in Alabama . According to her most of the doctors there are either Indian or Pakistani's . USMLE president seems to agree with me .

Pakistani doctors are amongst the best in the world: President USMLE

You guys should stick to Durand line talk shows as complicated things are way above your league .

[Kabulistan]

Um seriously you wan't liberalism in a uneducated nation like pakistan,,all liberalism will lead to is women looking for the best possible mate, so unless you are wealthy or good looking you will struggle to find a women, even if you do it will be some girl that has been pumped and dumped, and probably sees you as a provider, doesn't mean she will be loyal to you she will probably still cheat behind your back with a handsome guy if the opportunity ever arises, Arranged marriage allows undesirables guys to get laid that's the truth, and if you wan't liberalism than be ready for all your women to flock to the most desirable of men, which unfortunately for you indics will be your women flocking to pashtun men. so I suggest you keep the status quo.

in a liberal society Indic guys will automatically be bottom of the tottem...since in liberal society like West, Indics are already at the bottom of the dating totem and there is nothing they can do about that...even the well paid Tech bussines Indics have the same fate as the 7/11 workers...lol

Indics in the West are only getting laid thanx to arranged marriages there...the Indic women who are liberal and Westernized rarely date other Indic men...

I Dont know why these idiots would wanna bring that over to their own country...a country where handsome Light skinned Pashtun chai walas like this roam around:



(The Lady is the photograoher, probably a Desi woman, she has a very eager/aroused expression on her face, she took a picture of him and with him only because of his handsome looks, now Imagine if Pakistan was a liberal society like the West, that lady would be doing many more things with this chai wala than taking pictures, after just meeting)

And if you introduce things like tinder its gonna get even worse..a society where super model looking guys **** all the women and when they are well used and abused and No Longer attractive enough for model looking guys, post 30 years old, the avarage guys can be their beta provider and get the well used leftovers...ugly guys and many avarage looking guys as well will be relegated to paying for prostitutes...This is My observation of whats going on in the West in terms sex and male female social dynamics...

as you said, in a liberal society most Desi women would want to get pumped and dumped by those Light skinned handsome Pashtun chai walas...Desi men will be relegated to the bottom...I am not sure this Guy will like this type of social developement....

I think what type of society (founded on islamic conservative values) we have in our region is fine..IT has worked for US and willl continue to do so...now we want to get wealthy like the West, have Big nice cities, skyscarpers etc. but not at the expense of ditching our Islamic values...Islamic values are good...women in Islam are highly respected and dignified, and are not "meat to be passed around" (have sex left and right), we can improve on things like educatiom, more freedom, etc....this whole idea of women being sexually free, getting pumped and dumped by random guys, is not gonna progress your country to first world prosperity...loads of third world countries are liberal namely in central- and south america, Africa, Asia, even Eastern Europe but they are undeveloped/poor, and many of these May likely never reach a high standard of living despite being fully liberal and Westernized...prosperity depends on other things...

these Pro liberal desis are looking at things through blurred lenses...it seems their sexual frustration (focused on disco, booze, bikini, strip clubs) is making them not think clearly....

[Kakar-Wardak]

[QUOTE=Kakar-Wardak;806591]True post

WAW1.2: Do Looks Matter To Women? The TRUTH - YouTube

[Kabulistan]

[QUOTE=Kakar-Wardak;806592]

True post

WAW1.2: Do Looks Matter To Women? The TRUTH - YouTube

From my observation of western women:

When the women are in their prime years of beauty/fertility, the only thing that Matters to them is how handsome/masculine your face is....rest is BS Lies...the women only Go after such things as "personality"/money, etc. when they have been well used and abused by the model looking guys, and their beauty is fading and they are nearing their 30-40s when they will be looking for a Long term partner/ "settle Down" / she has had all her fun jumping from One **** to another..ei. A " husband" also called a beta cuckold provider...he provides her money, housing, kids, etc. in Hopes lf getting access to her sexually at least once Per week...if a handsome Guy shows up cheating is completely fine.....Hollywood movies nowadays even promote adultery...high percentage of divorces in West happen because of adultery...

Liberalism imo only leads to degeneracy if we were to adopt it....the results can be seen on all aspects of western society...if you Dont get fooled by the technological Advancements of West. All the men (the geeks, intellectuals) who are responsible for the amazing technological progress of West, are those Types of men whom most women would not pick naturally in the liberal dating field of today.. The idea of women being sexually liberated in order to build a wealthy society is false imo...

Technological progress/advancement/prosperity of the west has so far depended on the brilliance of the geeks of society...cultivate a society where these minds can blossom...

[Kakar-Wardak]

[QUOTE=Kabulistan;806595]

From my observation of western women:

When the women are in their prime years of beauty/fertility, the only thing that Matters to them is how handsome/masculine your face is....rest is BS Lies...the women only Go after such things as "personality"/money, etc. when they have been well used and abused by the model looking guys, and their beauty is fading and they are nearing their 30-40s when they will be looking for a Long term partner/ "settle Down" / she has had all her fun jumping from One **** to another..ei. A " husband" also called a beta cuckold provider...he provides her money, housing, kids, etc. in Hopes lf getting access to her sexually at least once Per week...if a handsome Guy shows up cheating is completely fine.....Hollywood movies nowadays even promote adultery...high percentage of divorces in West happen because of adultery...

Liberalism imo only leads to degeneracy if we were to adopt it....the results can be seen on all aspects of western society...if you Dont get fooled by the technological Advancements of West. All the men (the geeks, intellectuals) who are responsible for the amazing technological progress of West, are those Types of men whom most women would not pick naturally in the liberal dating field of today.. The idea of women being sexually liberated in order to build a wealthy society is false imo...

Technological progress/advancement/prosperity of the west has so far depended on the brilliance of the geeks of society...cultivate a society where these minds can blossom...

Talibanistic Islam fails because they are sending the kids to madrassas instead of learning about the world...some aspects of Western values we should adopt though...for example their curiousity to learn about the world...otherwise Islam is pretty good system imo...there is this Age called golden Age of Islam...the muslims there were highy motivated to study the World, and made several advances in many fields..for example, I remember from history class, that Up to 1800-late 1800, European universities used Medical books written by Muslim scholars..

And than you get beta's like karachi getting happy because some women who has hit the wall decided to date him lol, truth is only undesirable women will date these betas, even that's not a given considering how even fat chicks overestimate themselves and think they deserve a model as a boyfreind lol.

Islam is great because It encourages early marriage so even a really beautiful girl gets married early has a few kids and automatically she drops from a 9 to a 6, biological way of humbling her.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

You must be really stupid if you think American and British Hospitals hire Pakistani doctors over fraudulent Documents . My Fiance is doing her American medical electives in Alabama . According to her most of the doctors there are either Indian or Pakistani's . USMLE president seems to agree with me .

Pakistani doctors are amongst the best in the world: President USMLE

You guys should stick to Durand line talk shows as complicated things are way above your league .

Reposting the link means there's a lack of corroborative support, which suggests it's just Paki-media fluff to make frail Pakistani sentiments feel better. I googled other links which are just permutations of this report, so don't bother posting those too.

See one of the things about fraudulent documents is they're used to deceive and beguile people. So yes, it's possible. It happens all the time actually. Of course they get caught. But initially they pass through.

[mungojerry]

how is you eliminate India? from your paki pathan fart?

is this a new weapon developed by Elite Farthan to kill desis?

[Pakistan]

Reposting the link means there's a lack of corroborative support, which suggests it's just Paki-media fluff to make frail Pakistani sentiments feel better. I googled other links which are just permutations of this report, so don't bother posting those too.

See one of the things about fraudulent documents is they're used to deceive and beguile people. So yes, it's possible. It happens all the time actually. Of course they get caught. But initially they pass through.

You are not going to get a Job offer in Somalian Hospital let alone a J1- Visa for a top American Hospital . Just accept it , you guys are useless when it comes to any achievements .

[logical]

while afghani donkeys fight over trivial things,

today news

Pakistani-American surgeon awarded Ellis Island Medal of Honour

A Pakistani-American surgeon has been awarded the prestigious Ellis Island Medal of Honour in the United States for his services to the “less fortunate”.

The Ellis Island Medals of Honour “recognises individuals who have made it their mission to share with those less fortunate their wealth of knowledge, indomitable courage, boundless compassion, unique talents and selfless generosity; all while maintaining the traditions of their ethnic heritage as they uphold the ideals and spirit of America.” Past medallists include seven US presidents, several world leaders and two Nobel Prize winners."
Pakistani-American surgeon awarded Ellis Island Medal of Honour - The Express Tribune

[logical]

Only cuckolds say things like this, a very Indic trait. ...and in evolutionary terms a mentality which undermines your society. Good Job.

cringe, only faggots say things like that. Mentally you guys have sexual identity crisis going on. Good job for holding women closed doors and keeping bachas for pleasure, typical afghani scavenger trait.

[Manzareh]

is this a new weapon developed by Elite Farthan to kill desis?

Are you from india or Pakistan? dont be scared to answer brather