Salamuna

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Proper prachas never became servants. Its ok you are not that familar with Pakistan. Their counter parts in punjab are richest people. They are stereotyped to be very kanjoos and money hungry, so when someone have to mock them jelous people will call them kanjoos.
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It's ok , you're not familiar with Pashtuns; hence you keep using the word Pathan. LOL Also, we're not talking now, we're talking during Pashtun conquests. Even Brahmins at times had to lick the heels of their conquerors.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

What do you even concider religious then? I dont understand what you mean here.

It's possible to be a practicing Muslim, but not necessarily religious.

calling yourself religious is also kind of like bragging about yourself, which is against Islam ..and wouldn't be religious anyways.

[Golden]

It's ok , you're not familiar with Pashtuns; hence you keep using the word Pathan. LOL Also, we're not talking now, we're talking during Pashtun conquests. Even Brahmins at times had to lick the heels of their conquerors.

It's like saying pathans had to lick heels of sikhs etc Why any proper brahmin would lick heels of pathans, they are proud people. Toramana need to accept he's just pashto speaking punjabi khatri convert and not pathan from Sulaiman range originally. Do you think afghani pathans are licking punjabi boots by working like servants in small towns? They are just getting paid for doing work they are best at.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

It's like saying pathans had to lick heels of sikhs etc Why any proper brahmin would lick heels of pathans, they are proud people. Toramana need to accept he's just pashto speaking punjabi khatri convert and not pathan from Sulaiman range originally. Do you think afghani pathans are licking punjabi boots by working like servants in small towns? They are just getting paid for doing work they are best at.

well Pashtuns didn't since we were never made one of their hamsayas. the Parachas had been subjugated for a few hundred years well if you're conquered and you live under the mercy. As for Afghans working in Punjabi towns; these are modern times, they're not under hamsaya system. Apples and oranges.

Not sure why you're so salty; you have worse inferiority complex than AFB.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

[MENTION=18139]Shapur[/MENTION]

Just to let you know Golden is Tilla_Jogian, in case you weren't aware. if you were, ignore this message.

[Golden]

[MENTION=18139]Shapur[/MENTION]

Just to let you know Golden is Tilla_Jogian, in case you weren't aware. if you were, ignore this message.

Seem like I hit a nerve there lmao

[Golden]

well Pashtuns didn't since we were never made one of their hamsayas. the Parachas had been subjugated for a few hundred years well if you're conquered and you live under the mercy. As for Afghans working in Punjabi towns; these are modern times, they're not under hamsaya system. Apples and oranges.

Not sure why you're so salty; you have worse inferiority complex than AFB.

It's same system beta, times have not changed in rural areas. People are yet to come out of medieval age there. Afghani pathans are modern day landless kammis in punjabi towns.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Seem like I hit a nerve there lmao

More like I struck your nerve buddy You're awfully defensive about Parachas being made into hamsaya.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

It's same system beta, times have not changed in rural areas. People are yet to come out of medieval age there. Afghani pathans are modern day landless kammis in punjabi towns.

Very different system, since Pashtuns were never land bound. however hamsayas are. They may work labor jobs, but they can always leave if they wanted.

Parachas, and other conquered Punjabis were basically at the mercy of those who conquered them.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

Yes I can speak Khost Pashto, the only I know and I get quite a lot of remarks from people from Jalalabad or Kandahar that they have difficulty in understanding it.

Say something in pashto.Not just sarangay or cherey ye etc but a rather long sentence.

Ta pa khost k de kim zoy ye?

[Golden]

Very different system, since Pashtuns were never land bound. however hamsayas are. They may work labor jobs, but they can always leave if they wanted.

Parachas, and other conquered Punjabis were basically at the mercy of those who conquered them.

Same system beta, you just giving it different name. Kammi can always leave if they want, so how it's different?

Actually it's baloch who conquered sindh and and to lesser extent south punjab and they are still quite influential there to this day especially in interior sindh. Obviously now speaking seraiki or sindhi. While pathans moved to UP/Bihar but couldn't establish themselves in punjab, especially central and northen punjab.

Baloch decendents have been winners honestly, they are very influential in sindh and south punjab. While pathans used to be something in some cities of UP/Bihar. But right now afghani pathans basically do kammi jobs in punjab.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Same system beta, you just giving it different name. Kammi can always leave if they want, so how it's different?

Not at all, I'll tell you why, the Pashtuns conquered an area and made the locals a hamsaya. This is what happened with parachas. In return for mercy and allowing them to stay, the hamsayas work as servants. The Pashtuns who live in Punjab, are just temporary workers, they migrate wherever they can get jobs. So they'll go here and there etc.

See two different systems. It's ok your ethnic pride is hurt; but history presents horrible realities. In Modern times, hamsaya system can't be imposed, but everyone still remembers who their ancestors were so stigma remains.

Also I'd like to add, only a small number of Pashtuns ended up in Punjab, most are in Karachi or KPK.

[Khostai]

Say something in pashto.Not just sarangay or cherey ye etc but a rather long sentence.

Ta pa khost k de kim zoy ye?

To tishe gham rughala da, che za de Khost kum ze yam? De punjabiano ghulam!
LOL

[Khostai]

It's possible to be a practicing Muslim, but not necessarily religious.

calling yourself religious is also kind of like bragging about yourself, which is against Islam ..and wouldn't be religious anyways.

-_- Calling yourself relligious is not braging. You say you belive in Allah and want to follow the Islamic teachings, ofcourse nobody is perfect, but I assume you pray at least once a weak in Mosque? You also participate in Ramadan, and pray 5 times a day? If so then you are relligious.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

To tishe gham rughala da, che za de Khost kum ze yam? De punjabiano ghulam!
LOL

Khostwola mara demra ghatay kisay maaka.mizh kho de sar na kunay rasa pezhani che asay lota ye.

mo zaka pta wakra che darvegh mai de maleema wal.