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  • #31
    Growing weekly counter-protests all over the country started to outnumber Pegida protesters in January 2015. German politicians, clergy and industry leaders have called PEGIDA xenophobic and islamophobic. Its founder and leader Lutz Bachmann resigned in January 2015 after xenophobic remarks and a photograph of him posing as Adolf Hitler surfaced, which led to criminal investigations.

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    • #32
      I think we need to becareful that European movements against Islam are predominantly motivated by White Supremacy and Cultural Hegemony and not simply human rights or preventing radicalization "Human Rights" while important is also being used as a manipulation tool, by these organizations who as we can see adore genocidal murderers like Hitler.

      even on our own forum we see hypocrites, I won't name nams, tout a laundry list of "human rights & democracy" and yet when shown their contradiction admit they're really just about power and domination.

      The way to combat "Muslim" Thugs; is to police ourselves about what we stand for not to appease others but to distance ourselves from things clearly against any basic standard of ethics.
      Last edited by Brown Skinned Savage; 03-22-2015, 02:20 PM.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Khostai View Post
        The things that muslim youth do in big cities across western Europe:
        This is a problem of youth culture which needs to be addressed on all levels of society not simply Muslims.

        Call native European ladies ****s and who.res when they walk by (saw with my own eyes)
        Yes very disgraceful; but again, this is a problem of society all around not simply Muslims a widespread campaign needs to be used not where hoodlums are used as an excuse to make the lives of normal citizens harder just because they share the same background.


        Join criminal gangs and do a lot of robery.
        Yes again, horrible and much should b done about it in Muslim communities; but this is why we need to do more grassroots self policing.

        crime is not simply a Muslim problem once again.

        Are almost twice as much reprecented in the jail population. if you compare it to the general population.
        Sure, minority groups are generally more represented in prison population almost all over the world.

        Complex variables are involved here such as socioeconomics.

        Ask for shariah law inforcement, when most of their parents run away from strict Islamic rule.
        Agreed, again we need to self police to combat this.


        Plus they use drugs and drink alcohol, but go to friday mosque to repent and think all is good and forgiven.
        self policing needs to be made a community priority.

        Defends terrorists in public, like in school and internet forums.
        Yes radicalization is a problem we should do whatever possible to combat these doctrines an ideologies at its root. without pandering to right wing groups in the West

        Most muslims are pro shariah but refuse to emmigrate to Islamic countries.
        There's complex reasons behind this; other than simply because they feel obligated why have they turned towards such a rigid attitude about religion? Do they feel it provides them a bulwark against what they feel is a threat to their identity and values? do they feel motivated by misguided solidarity with their kin back home? or resentment due to the imperial behavior of European states they reside in?


        Make fun of native European traditions and culture and call it stupid and what not.
        No one needs to be obligated to extol native European traditions; as long as they respect the laws of the land; its the later that must be stressed

        Their is many more, but I will just name a few to give you a picture how ****ed up muslim yout here is.
        Correct; but we need appropriate solutions not reactionary ones.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Brown Skinned Savage View Post
          This is a problem of youth culture which needs to be addressed on all levels of society not simply Muslims.



          Yes very disgraceful; but again, this is a problem of society all around not simply Muslims a widespread campaign needs to be used not where hoodlums are used as an excuse to make the lives of normal citizens harder just because they share the same background.



          Yes again, horrible and much should b done about it in Muslim communities; but this is why we need to do more grassroots self policing.

          crime is not simply a Muslim problem once again.



          Sure, minority groups are generally more represented in prison population almost all over the world.

          Complex variables are involved here such as socioeconomics.



          Agreed, again we need to self police to combat this.




          self policing needs to be made a community priority.



          Yes radicalization is a problem we should do whatever possible to combat these doctrines an ideologies at its root. without pandering to right wing groups in the West



          There's complex reasons behind this; other than simply because they feel obligated why have they turned towards such a rigid attitude about religion? Do they feel it provides them a bulwark against what they feel is a threat to their identity and values? do they feel motivated by misguided solidarity with their kin back home? or resentment due to the imperial behavior of European states they reside in?




          No one needs to be obligated to extol native European traditions; as long as they respect the laws of the land; its the later that must be stressed



          Correct; but we need appropriate solutions not reactionary ones.
          A lot of excuses for namak-karam people. Who not only put to shame themselfs but also others who follow the same relligion.
          And by the way their are a lot of Chinees immigrants in Europe, but do you eve rhear about them being number on in prison? Or in radicalism? No, how come they are not so widespread represented in this crimes but the muslims are? They are also a minority with diffrent background and relligion. But still they are far more civilised than majority of muslims ever will be in Europe. And that is the same for other minorities, becuase now it looks like that in Europe the only minority are muslim arabs and turks, when in fact you have millions of other people too, who leave a normal live and are happy here. But only muslims come with dum **** like Shariah4Belgium, ISIS support and adoration of Osama like he is some national hero.
          Last edited by Khostai; 03-22-2015, 03:15 PM.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Khostai View Post
            A lot of excuses for namak-karam people. Who not only put to shame themselfs but also others who follow the same relligion.
            And by the way their are a lot of Chinees immigrants in Europe, but do you eve rhear about them being number on in prison? Or in radicalism? No, how come they are not so widespread represented in this crimes but the muslims are? They are also a minority with diffrent background and relligion. But still they are far more civilised than majority of muslims ever will be in Europe. And that is the same for other minorities, becuase now it looks like that in Europe the only minority are muslim arabs and turks, when in fact you have millions of other people too, who leave a normal live and are happy here. But only muslims come with dum **** like Shariah4Belgium, ISIS support and adoration of Osama like he is some national hero.

            are the issues of Chinese the same as the issues of the Muslim immigrants? How many Chinese are there vs. North African and Middle Eastern? Do Europeans do a sort of "Preferential" system between minorities like the Belgians did with Tutsis and Hutus in Rwanda? What about Romanian, Bulgarians, Croatian, Romani and South American immigrants within Europe, are they more like the Chinese or more like the Middle Eastern?

            I would expect a more mature understanding of things from a person who was raised in a more advanced educational system.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Brown Skinned Savage View Post
              Growing weekly counter-protests all over the country started to outnumber Pegida protesters in January 2015. German politicians, clergy and industry leaders have called PEGIDA xenophobic and islamophobic. Its founder and leader Lutz Bachmann resigned in January 2015 after xenophobic remarks and a photograph of him posing as Adolf Hitler surfaced, which led to criminal investigations.
              politicians said it because they are frightened to loose power
              media and politicians and especailyl all left groups call pegida as nazi

              posing as adolf hitler was a manipulated pic by enemy of lutz bachmann, just one newspaper did the correction! and yes lutz bachmann has got a criminal past and he doesnt hide it!

              the left mainstream media also smuggle in an journalist into pagida people who started to use nazi language towards camera, but very fast he was exposed as journalist who should portrait the pegida as nazi

              now this journalsit is jobless and his former chief dont give a **** on him!

              even constituion protection checked pegida and could not find anything

              the left groups already tried several tiem to kill people from pegida but nothing on mainstream media

              last week frankfurt am main was almost in fire, who was it? left radical groups and mainstream media said nothing!

              pegida is not just agaisnt islam; pegid ais agaisnt all religiosu radicalisation, against gender mainstreamind, agaisnt early sexualisation

              even non germans take part at pegida like jews and durign the demonstrations you see also non-german flags but nothing about it on maisntream media


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              • #37
                profile pic from german pegida page
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                • #38
                  why do i as foreigner demonstrate with pegida
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                  • #39
                    from pegida page about afghan targuman who still has not received asyl status in germany although he has worked with german soldiers

                    just read the comments
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by ImAjEw View Post
                      from pegida page about afghan targuman who still has not received asyl status in germany although he has worked with german soldiers

                      just read the comments
                      https://www.facebook.com/79066910097...607174/?type=1
                      real asyl seeker cannot receive asyl status or the ****ign invadors of afghanistan leave them just alone

                      but islamists receive easily asyl in europe

                      everybody knows that europe is a safe heaven of islamists
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                      • #41
                        german government should bring all targumans with their entire family to germany!
                        IMMEDIATELY!

                        and send all criminal and islamists afghans back to taliban!
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                        • #42
                          just look at that pic!


                          taz is a left newspaper

                          there is a guy who holds the poster, he has got a dark skin
                          hmm but nobody attack him

                          you can find just several pics of this moment


                          so how can pegida be xenophobic?
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                          • #43
                            I remember an Indian guy standing for elections on a UKIP list. Doesn't mean UKIP isn't racist.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Zarim View Post
                              I remember an Indian guy standing for elections on a UKIP list. Doesn't mean UKIP isn't racist.
                              there is huge difference between being racist and being nationalistic

                              european people have also a right to be proud of their ethnic group without being called as racist!
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by ImAjEw View Post
                                there is huge difference between being racist and being nationalistic

                                european people have also a right to be proud of their ethnic group without being called as racist!
                                Here a link to what some UKIP bigots say: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...ti-gay-3558058

                                Now tell me, are they not racists? Is it not racist to refer to a black guy as 'Zulu'? Calling Islam a 'cancer' is part of being 'nationalistic'? In my own country of the Netherlands, one of the most prominent politicians (Geert Wilders), during an election speech asked the crowd "Do you want more or less Moroccans?" and the crowd cheered "Less! Less! Less!". Is he nationalistic?

                                It has become almost fashionable nowadays to **** on Muslims in Europe. If somebody is robbed, it must have been a Muslim. If somebody farted, it must have been a Muslim. If it's raining, it's the fault of the Muslims.

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