The house negros or dalalan on this forum.

[Toramana]

No its not, its thanks to that that we still have just 35% of literate population and thanks to that we have group like taliban. Afghanistan need secularism and modernism and fast. Becuase if we not adapt to the modern world, modern world will eat us, like it does now.

Absolutely agree Khostai. The archaic thinking whether it originates from cultural or religious tradition is mainly responsible for our predicament. Modernization and secular thinking is the answer. Of course non-harmful cultural and religious tradition can be retained.

[Brown Skinned Savage]

RTR also known as BSS. (Brown Skinned Savage)

This is coming from you, a Bangladeshi that wishes he was Afghan.

[Brown Skinned Savage]

@ Yusufzai, brilliantly written and forth coming reply.

I've been noticing in many of Badlun's posts there are internal contradictions. Anachronistic claims and outright fallacies/factual errors. They come off as very inconsistent; they claim to stand for human rights, but when the human rights angle is shown to be false; they revert to power, domination and hegemony

This implies that human rights/democracy are not their genuine objectives, If Taliban are bad because of their immoral acts of violence, which they are, then those who participate in immoral acts of violence in the name of fighting terrorism are also contemptible, whether they brandish the name of human rights/democracy or not.

There are precisely the signs of someone who is a "house negro" or a "dalal", someone who'll validate evil just to maintain else's conquest of power.

[HalloIsBack]

No its not, its thanks to that that we still have just 35% of literate population and thanks to that we have group like taliban. Afghanistan need secularism and modernism and fast. Becuase if we not adapt to the modern world, modern world will eat us, like it does now.

then how should it work?
afghanistan cannot get rid of taliban and it will be a ****ing long process
to put your nose in religious life of people is wrong and you have seen what happened
if such kind of people like ghani are voted there is always players who will sabotage it
we need rethinking in the west! if the governments in the west leave you alone you can flourish! that is one of the reasons why do i support a revolution in the west and especailly now in europe!

[Khostai]

then how should it work?
afghanistan cannot get rid of taliban and it will be a ****ing long process
to put your nose in religious life of people is wrong and you have seen what happened
if such kind of people like ghani are voted there is always players who will sabotage it
we need rethinking in the west! if the governments in the west leave you alone you can flourish! that is one of the reasons why do i support a revolution in the west and especailly now in europe!

Afghanistan can get rid of taliban, taliban only excist thanx to western powers and the shi.thole of pakistan that we have as a neighbour. Secular education and norms should be taught at school, slowly but surelly relligious extremism will be kept at bey, Afghanistan kept religious extremism at bey once and it will do it again.

[HalloIsBack]

Afghanistan can get rid of taliban, taliban only excist thanx to western powers and the shi.thole of pakistan that we have as a neighbour. Secular education and norms should be taught at school, slowly but surelly relligious extremism will be kept at bey, Afghanistan kept religious extremism at bey once and it will do it again.

so support the revolution in the west too because you are living in the west too

and you forgot iran, russia and saudi


people in afghanistan are fed up with all mullahs but they have to much power in afghanistan

[Toramana]

i dont agree with you on this point
communists are humanists in theory but not in practice
i have never receive help from them although i belong to the lower walk of life
99,9% of them are from reach parent houses and dont have any clue about hard work
do you know what happened in frankfurt am main (a big german city) few days ago?
we have in europe a big movement of communists who are mostly violent
communists came to power always with violence like islamists and usa-democracy, just look at your country afghanistan as communists wanted to free poor people

Hallo, at least their intentions were good. The revolutionaries in Afghanistan wanted to change things in Afghanistan that had been kept stagnant by the despotic monarchy of Afghanistan.

Communists have fared better than the so-called democratic forces of the free world who supported despots, dictators, keeping entire populations backward and oppressed. Look at states in Central Asia. Not only the backward tribal traditions were broken but these states also have 100 percent literacy rate.

But hay I am no longer an admirer of revolutions and chaotic destabilization that revolutions cause. I on the other hand strongly oppose them. Gradual peaceful transformation through political and social activism is rather more effective.

[Khostai]

Hallo, at least their intentions were good. The revolutionaries in Afghanistan wanted to change things in Afghanistan that had been kept stagnant by the despotic monarchy of Afghanistan.

Communists have fared better than the so-called democratic forces of the free world who supported despots, dictators, keeping entire populations backward and oppressed. Look at states in Central Asia. Not only the backward tribal traditions were broken but these states also have 100 percent literacy rate.

But hay I am no longer an admirer of revolutions and chaotic destabilization that revolutions cause. I on the other hand strongly oppose them. Gradual peaceful transformation through political and social activism is rather more effective.

Me too, I think that is the only way to ensure that no power hungry delusionla psychopath will come to power.

[Khostai]

so support the revolution in the west too because you are living in the west too

and you forgot iran, russia and saudi


people in afghanistan are fed up with all mullahs but they have to much power in afghanistan

Which revolution are you talking about? The PEGIDA movement, that is disbanded?

[Yousufzai]

Which revolution are you talking about? The PEGIDA movement, that is disbanded?

Those guys are just thugs. If they were Muslims, they'd probably be extreme Islamists.

[Khostai]

Those guys are just thugs. If they were Muslims, they'd probably be extreme Islamists.

Some of them can be extreme, but I saw their movement, it was not that extreme as what Islamist shout or do.....

[Yousufzai]

Some of them can be extreme, but I saw their movement, it was not that extreme as what Islamist shout or do.....

Of course comparisons are never a 100% accurate, but they both have the same general mentality. They're hateful people who blame their own problems on the weak. We all know what happened the last time Germans persecuted and demonized a minority...

[Khostai]

Of course comparisons are never a 100% accurate, but they both have the same general mentality. They're hateful people who blame their own problems on the weak. We all know what happened the last time Germans persecuted and demonized a minority...

Yes, but something like the jewish Holocaust will never happen. Becuase most muslims in Germany are Turkish, systematic discrimination will do more damage than good.

But to be honest I am glad that groups like PEGIDA are their this will also make other muslim more alert about the action that their fellow belivers do and will condemn them, becuase this whole anti-Islam movements in Europe has it own ground, and muslims are also to blame in this. I don't know if you live in Europe or not, but how some Arab Turks and other mulsims behave is just so outrageous, if they did the same **** in Afghanistan what most of them do in Europe, you will be the one building concentration camps...

[Khostai]

The things that muslim youth do in big cities across western Europe:
Call native European ladies ****s and who.res when they walk by (saw with my own eyes)
Join criminal gangs and do a lot of robery.
Are almost twice as much reprecented in the jail population. if you compare it to the general population.
Ask for shariah law inforcement, when most of their parents run away from strict Islamic rule.
Plus they use drugs and drink alcohol, but go to friday mosque to repent and think all is good and forgiven.
Defends terrorists in public, like in school and internet forums.
Most muslims are pro shariah but refuse to emmigrate to Islamic countries.
Make fun of native European traditions and culture and call it stupid and what not.
Their is many more, but I will just name a few to give you a picture how ****ed up muslim yout here is.

[Yousufzai]

The things that muslim youth do in big cities across western Europe:
Call native European ladies ****s and who.res when they walk by (saw with my own eyes)
Join criminal gangs and do a lot of robery.
Are almost twice as much reprecented in the jail population. if you compare it to the general population.
Ask for shariah law inforcement, when most of their parents run away from strict Islamic rule.
Plus they use drugs and drink alcohol, but go to friday mosque to repent and think all is good and forgiven.
Defends terrorists in public, like in school and internet forums.
Most muslims are pro shariah but refuse to emmigrate to Islamic countries.
Make fun of native European traditions and culture and call it stupid and what not.
Their is many more, but I will just name a few to give you a picture how ****ed up muslim yout here is.

Bro, this is exactly how racist Pakistanis talk about Afghan refugees. For every Muslim punk in Europe, I'm sure there are hundreds of decent, hardworking, tax paying Muslims who have nothing to do with radicalism or street crime. To single out the entire community for criticism and to blame Europe's problems on "Islamization" is bigoted.

Anyway, I'm glad PEGIDA is dead. And it makes me happy knowing that it didn't die because of Muslims, but because Europeans themselves rejected its message of hatred and division. The "movement" now is a joke: http://www.scotsman.com/news/edinbur...ants-1-3724963