Can we agree on.....

[gadoonwal]

the so called communist MostafaM hates pashtun and pashtun unity.he deletes threads and post without any reason.

This guy mostafam is anti-pashtun.
In every thread he creat some division among pashtuns to fight eachother.
I request admin khan wror ,to warn him of his anti-pashtun comments on this forum.
He should not be mod in the fisrt place.
We need a neutral person to be mods.
How he become a mod when his ehtnicity and background is not clear who he is.
This thread was created to make pashtuns against eachother.
It is not for pashtun unity.
If he wants unity of pashtun then he should shut his mouth for supporting anti-pashtun elements but he is not one of us.
If you write anything for the support of pashtu language he will delet it.
How come a farsiwan become mod on pashtunforum.
He sent me warning to while he himself break the forum rules by making anti-pashtun comments.

[Kushan Prince]

kushan,
Generelly i never been racist towards tajiks.
In fact i have a punjsheri freind too but he dose,nt like politics.
I helped them too but i hate their racism against pashtuns.

How do you have a panjsheri friend if you live in Pakistan?

[Smarty]

This guy mostafam is anti-pashtun.
In every thread he creat some division among pashtuns to fight eachother.
I request admin khan wror ,to warn him of his anti-pashtun comments on this forum.
He should not be mod in the fisrt place.
We need a neutral person to be mods.
How he become a mod when his ehtnicity and background is not clear who he is.
This thread was created to make pashtuns against eachother.
It is not for pashtun unity.
If he wants unity of pashtun then he should shut his mouth for supporting anti-pashtun elements but he is not one of us.
If you write anything for the support of pashtu language he will delet it.
How come a farsiwan become mod on pashtunforum.
He sent me warning to while he himself break the forum rules by making anti-pashtun comments.

Actually you are creating divisions among pakhtuns. You are consistently insulting bar afghans, calling them diluted and persianized and what not. Yet you have the audacity to claim working for pakhtun unity. Moreover you are suffering from tribalism ,you are quick to insult other tribes.

[Shehbaz Khan]

I am a communist because I delete the Russian topic?
The language of your Khalqi/Parchamie war criminals?

Then I am the proudest "communist" ever if thats the definition of the word.

Not directed to me. Nor said by me.

I will delete

a) comments of Paki-loyal Pathans who have no say in this thread because its about Pashtun Unity not about the cancer-like entity they wanna rott in for the rest of their miserable lifes

You call millions of Pakhtuns living on this side of the durand cancer like entity and you expect that we can agree on something.

b) hate speech towards ethnicities, religious groups and/or regions.

(Pakistan as a "nation state" is excluded from this because it is
1. a fake nation state created by the British Empire to bring chaos to the Indian Subcontinent,
2. a tool in the hands of the powerfull to oppress people in the name of religion and
3. has no legitimicy because it oppresses its own minorities culturally and linguistically to create a rootless drone in the name of religion.)

That´s why I deleted Pakwatan´s, Shehbaz´s and Gadoonwal´s posts.
Please, feel free to pakify another thread.

My post didn't contain any hatred speech for any nation, community.

This question was asked seriously and aims at unifying a diverse nation.
It is not intended to be threat to anyone or look down on others based on ethnicity, religion etc. but to build a basic understanding between Pashtuns to empower themselves for the future.

Further nonsense will be deleted without any comment!

I have every right to comment on whatever posts I like unless it's an insulting comment or a bad word about a member, nation or country. For the betterment of Pakhtuns as a Nation I've every right to express my feelings and ideas anywhere I like.


IF this forum means that I can't post anything here if it contradicts the thoughts of this moderator. Or he has the right to delete my posts because he somehow thinks I am not 'pure' enough to post here. I would like to un-join! I will appreciate a reply from [MENTION=2]Admin Khan[/MENTION]. [MENTION=103]tor_khan[/MENTION]

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

Either Mustafa has never been to Pakistan or is ignoring the reality.

You believe it or not But in my life i have yet to met a single pashtun having concept of merger with Afghanistan except for my Dad which is slightly pro Afghanistan.

Yes i would put the %age at 99.99999% of pashtuns having No concept of merger with Afghanistan.I agree thousand or even millions of them will hate Pakistan But they have never claimed to secceed.

So Either you will have to ignore all the Pakistani Pashtuns or put down your claim of Pro Pakistani pashtuns as termed non pashtuns.

its all upto you

[Black Lion]

How do you have a panjsheri friend if you live in Pakistan?

Have you forgotten that there are millions of Afghan refugees in Pakistan?

[tor_khan]

IF this forum means that I can't post anything here if it contradicts the thoughts of this moderator. Or he has the right to delete my posts because he somehow thinks I am not 'pure' enough to post here. I would like to un-join! I will appreciate a reply from [MENTION=2]Admin Khan[/MENTION]. [MENTION=103]tor_khan[/MENTION]

Several points emerge here. Firstly on the point of a member's contribution to the forum. Pashtuns are a diverse group of people who clearly represent awide range of political views. Even in this thread there are bound to be different voices in response to Mostafa's original posting. Should this be a ringfenced discussion? Occasionally, some discussions are, however to be honest even this is difficult to police. And on a personal level I would not have excluded Shabaz from this discussion. I have valued the steady, calm approach. Few will hold their tongue in the way that Shahbaz generally does so.

That is not the same as agreeing with others politically. Perhaps Shahbaz is on a different page when it comes to many aspects though carefully managed (and controlled) debate allows for gentle education.

[tor_khan]

I have come to the conclusion that this forum and many of its staff promote hatred of Pakistan and I feel that offensive name-calling e.g. Porkistan should not be allowed because there are in fact Pashtuns from Pakistan who love their county and they have every right to do so.

Moreover, as Badlun and others said, there is no "Loy Afghanistan or Pashunistan movement" in real life and such people who want to join KPK and FATA with Afghanistan exist only on the internet. Hardly any Pashtuns in Pakistan feel any hatred or bitterness towards their country and neither do they have any desire to join Afghanistan, so I don't know where these anti-Pakistan sentiments and feelings of oppression/discrimination have come from on PF. Probably Western-raised confused Afghan nationalist teens have brought them.

I will end by saying: Pakistan zindabad!

I don't agree with the puerile name calling. I don't get involved in that.

The over zealous Internet nationalism that is tinged with nostalgia requires a separate response, something that I should come back to later but on the point where I agree with Mostafa is that whilst we are known for hospitality, we can sometimes be used to carry the burden of other people's fantasies. That irritates me. Guests are welcome but should know their place.

[afghan]

I am a communist because I delete the Russian topic?
The language of your Khalqi/Parchamie war criminals?

Then I am the proudest "communist" ever if thats the definition of the word.

I will delete

a) comments of Paki-loyal Pathans who have no say in this thread because its about Pashtun Unity not about the cancer-like entity they wanna rott in for the rest of their miserable lifes

b) hate speech towards ethnicities, religious groups and/or regions.

(Pakistan as a "nation state" is excluded from this because it is
1. a fake nation state created by the British Empire to bring chaos to the Indian Subcontinent,
2. a tool in the hands of the powerfull to oppress people in the name of religion and
3. has no legitimicy because it oppresses its own minorities culturally and linguistically to create a rootless drone in the name of religion.)

That´s why I deleted Pakwatan´s, Shehbaz´s and Gadoonwal´s posts.
Please, feel free to pakify another thread.
This question was asked seriously and aims at unifying a diverse nation.
It is not intended to be threat to anyone or look down on others based on ethnicity, religion etc. but to build a basic understanding between Pashtuns to empower themselves for the future.

Further nonsense will be deleted without any comment!

As a moderator you should know the rules. your problem is you delete every comment and thread that goes against your ideology. there is a lot of junk posted by killzai and his other accounts, you ignore all that. what do you want to prove by deleting the posts and threads without any reason?
your Khalqis/parchamis not necessarily spoke russian, most of them spoke your language parsi.
you are not offended by some idiotic comments of few member, but your highness got offended by a russian thread? if you have some issues with members and cannot be fare so be honest and stop being a moderator. I believe no one is forcing you to be one.
Its a public forum every one has a different opinion you cannot force members to follow your thoughts, and post what ever suites your highness.

[gadoonwal]

How do you have a panjsheri friend if you live in Pakistan?

So no punjsheri crossed into pashtunkhwa due to war in afghanistan?
Looks to me that you never been to a country call afghanistan.
There are thousands of of parsiwans living in peshawar,manshera and in camps accross pashtunkhwa.Many parsibans lives in islam abad .
Hayat abad peshawar is full of tajiks.
Abroad many of them trade with pashtuns in place like Bangkok,dubia.

[gadoonwal]

I have come to the conclusion that this forum and many of its staff promote hatred of Pakistan and I feel that offensive name-calling e.g. Porkistan should not be allowed because there are in fact Pashtuns from Pakistan who love their county and they have every right to do so.

Moreover, as Badlun and others said, there is no "Loy Afghanistan or Pashunistan movement" in real life and such people who want to join KPK and FATA with Afghanistan exist only on the internet. Hardly any Pashtuns in Pakistan feel any hatred or bitterness towards their country and neither do they have any desire to join Afghanistan, so I don't know where these anti-Pakistan sentiments and feelings of oppression/discrimination have come from on PF. Probably Western-raised confused Afghan nationalist teens have brought them.


I will end by saying: Pakistan zindabad!

How can you say ,,pakistan zinda bad,,when thousands of pashtuns were killed by pakistani army.
They are stealing your sources
They are calling you terrorists
They do not respect your culture and language.
No indsutries in your province
They divided you into pieces.
They are bombing your schools and graves of your heroes etc.
All of the above they did,nt give you a chance to vote for your azad watan pashtunistan in the refrendum.

Forget about farsiwans and their slaves but we pashtuns of both side need our own watan ,identity and freedom for our people.
We want our own pashtu and way of life.
We are sick of pakism and farsiwanism.
These two things killed our language and culture.
Pashtuns of both side should not defend their masters like punjabis and persains.
Be your own master and say
tal de wey loy pakhtunistan/pakhtunkhwa from amu to ABASEEN.
nesht ba wey zamong dushamanan

[tor_khan]

How can you say ,,pakistan zinda bad,,when thousands of pashtuns were killed by pakistani army.
They are stealing your sources
They are calling you terrorists
They do not respect your culture and language.
No indsutries in your province
They divided you into pieces.
They are bombing your schools and graves of your heroes etc.
All of the above they did,nt give you a chance to vote for your azad watan pashtunistan in the refrendum.

Forget about farsiwans and their slaves but we pashtuns of both side need our own watan ,identity and freedom for our people.
We want our own pashtu and way of life.
We are sick of pakism and farsiwanism.
These two things killed our language and culture.
Pashtuns of both side should not defend their masters like punjabis and persains.
Be your own master and say
tal de wey loy pakhtunistan/pakhtunkhwa from amu to ABASEEN.
nesht ba wey zamong dushamanan

Noble and passionate, but going back to [MENTION=3253]MostafaM[/MENTION]'s original post, who is asking for this and who is leading on this?

[Smarty]

Not directed to me. Nor said by me.



You call millions of Pakhtuns living on this side of the durand cancer like entity and you expect that we can agree on something.



My post didn't contain any hatred speech for any nation, community.



I have every right to comment on whatever posts I like unless it's an insulting comment or a bad word about a member, nation or country. For the betterment of Pakhtuns as a Nation I've every right to express my feelings and ideas anywhere I like.


IF this forum means that I can't post anything here if it contradicts the thoughts of this moderator. Or he has the right to delete my posts because he somehow thinks I am not 'pure' enough to post here. I would like to un-join! I will appreciate a reply from [MENTION=2]Admin Khan[/MENTION]. [MENTION=103]tor_khan[/MENTION]

But you are allowed to post every where, why you insist on posting on this thread when Mostafa has instructed that this discussion is not for pakified pathans to participate?
Are you a member of any pakistani forum, if yes then tell us about your experience there, how much they tolerate your pashtun-centric views?....because my understanding is that you are not fully following your jinnah baba, pakism demands that you give up on your ethnic identity and adopt the ways, social values, culture and langauge of U.P , delhi and bihar.
Be a good paki and give up on pashtuns. Act more like a representative of pakistan like [MENTION=17453]EvilPakistani[/MENTION]

[Shehbaz Khan]

But you are allowed to post every where, why you insist on posting on this thread when Mostafa has instructed that this discussion is not for pakified pathans to participate?

If I make a topic and say that all those from Afghanistan will not post here. Will you be okay with that? NO! I being a Pakhtun and a member of this forum can post where I wish. And none of my posts shall be deleted unless/until they contradict any rule of this forum.

Are you a member of any pakistani forum, if yes then tell us about your experience there, how much they tolerate your pashtun-centric views?....because my understanding is that you are not fully following your jinnah baba, pakism demands that you give up on your ethnic identity and adopt the ways, social values, culture and langauge of U.P , delhi and bihar.
Be a good paki and give up on pashtuns. Act more like a representative of pakistan like @EvilPakistani

I am not a member of any of such forum but yes I know what you're referring to. Two wrongs never make a right. If somebody robs me, will I go and rob any other person and justify my claim? NO, I won't. So If there is something wrong happening on another forum why shall that be happening here?

I act the way I like. And I don't comment about any other member of the forum in a wrong way so I will let [MENTION=17453]EvilPakistani[/MENTION] to decide how to respond to your comment.

[Shehbaz Khan]

@tor_khan: The following comment of mine was deleted. If I'd said anything wrong, I will be glad to correct myself.
I quoted this

I strongly advise Non-Pashtuns (and I consider the Paki-loving Pathans as Non-Pashtuns, too), to stay out of this discussion, please.

And wrote this in response
There right, right there lies the problem. Re-Read it, Think again and again until you get it..


PS: If we can't have a topic to hear from the opposition. How do we expect that we can have a country and we will tolerate those who have dis-agree with us. And as I told Admin in the PM, If a member would have said/written such a thing that could have been a normal thing over here, yet this thing is coming from a member of the controlling panel.