US Or Canada for Immigration?

[ufo973]

If someone has a choice to choose between these two countries to immigrate, which one he should choose?
Considering Jobs, Wages, Social Benefits, Entertainment and Lifestyle etc.
Please give a little detail about the pros and cons of the one you think is better then another.

Regards

[HalloIsBack]

Canada!

btw: did you solve the problem with meat?

[Kushan Prince]

Canada bro! I live here.

[Khostai]

Canada is too cold and snowy, but is save, clean and has a good standart of living, USA is good if you have already a diploma and can get a profecional job, like doctor, software developer or ingeneer, you can get more money and you can live in warm and sunny place, but if you are uneducated and poor than go to Canada like most of the peopel here, becuase there at least your kids can get better education and you don't have to worry that much about the finance.

[Admin Khan]

USA by miles, and I mean miles. Better cities, better doctors, better hospitals, more diverse, better job opportunities, and not to mention our universities are on a whole different level tier, whole different. The weather is Canada alone makes it useless. When I say it's cold up there, I am not kidding; hear it from the horses mouth. Canada is more like a state, comparing it against the USA, with due respect is almost an insult. A more valid question would be, Canada vs New York, or Canada vs California; etc. If Canada vs New York, I can almost guaranty you that you will like it here in NYS, although I would recommend anyone Massachusetts, which has it all.

[faye]

good heavens admin..u.s.a. paradise on earth!
i have been there for about 6 months, and it was like being in a mental institute without walls.
i enjoyed it, being a nutter myself, but to be so adulating of it and comparing like that to another country, seems a bit.... AMERICAN.

[KGODB]

USA by miles, and I mean miles. Better cities, better doctors, better hospitals, more diverse, better job opportunities, and not to mention our universities are on a whole different level tier, whole different. The weather is Canada alone makes it useless. When I say it's cold up there, I am not kidding; hear it from the horses mouth. Canada is more like a state, comparing it against the USA, with due respect is almost an insult. A more valid question would be, Canada vs New York, or Canada vs California; etc. If Canada vs New York, I can almost guaranty you that you will like it here in NYS, although I would recommend anyone Massachusetts, which has it all.

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Health Care

[Karachi]

If I had a choice I would move to California, Canada is nice but it is too cold

[SiiNii]

What cities in 'Great Satan' are you interested in? Do you have a family to raise or are you coming alone? What is your profession?

Social Benefits

Are you talking about handouts or something else? We are very generous with entitlements, to a fault.

[SiiNii]

"Canada is too cold"

Have you guys ever been there? Don't take offense at my next question, have you ever worn modern outdoors clothing? Gore Tex boots, Polartec fleece, Smartwool, Primaloft, goosedown and silkweights not to mention battery heated socks and gloves... layered properly will keep your body at Kandahar temperatures while the surrounding air is 0 degrees.

[Kushan Prince]

For everyone saying its too cold. Come in the summer times, its just as hot as California im not kidding. I mean USA is good I have been there countless times but your more likely to get discriminated there because of your religon and the education system is not that good. I mean my cousin told he didn't have any exams and he's in high school so he went to California with his dad. I was like WTH? And one word... Free Health Care!

Oh and not to mention that every other country in the world follows the metric system, while America is still fixated on the imperial system.

[SiiNii]

your more likely to get discriminated there because of your religon and the education system is not that good.

I can vouch for what KP says, every year the curriculum is dumbed down further in order to raise graduation rates.

Anti-Muslim prejudice depends on the area of the country you live in.

[Admin Khan]

For everyone saying its too cold. Come in the summer times, its just as hot as California im not kidding. I mean USA is good I have been there countless times but your more likely to get discriminated there because of your religon and the education system is not that good. I mean my cousin told he didn't have any exams and he's in high school so he went to California with his dad. I was like WTH? And one word... Free Health Care!

Oh and not to mention that every other country in the world follows the metric system, while America is still fixated on the imperial system.

Khushan,

The USA has the best higher education on planet earth. It is every Canadian students dream to be a student in one of the top 100 universities of the USA, let alone HYPSM. I'd politely disagree. Take a look at the global 500 universities list, and let me know how many Canadian flags you see, vis-a-vis American.

[Admin Khan]

"Canada is too cold"

Have you guys ever been there? Don't take offense at my next question, have you ever worn modern outdoors clothing? Gore Tex boots, Polartec fleece, Smartwool, Primaloft, goosedown and silkweights not to mention battery heated socks and gloves... layered properly will keep your body at Kandahar temperatures while the surrounding air is 0 degrees.

I've been to Canada, and the whole point is to avoid the cold, not to battle the ridiculous cold by wearing two jackets, 3 three socks, with your teeth stuttering.

[Admin Khan]

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Health Care

The USA has better doctors, and better hospitals than any nation on earth. Again, let's drop the ignorance and try to understand what Americans mean when they say 'health care'. The argument is to make it affordable, not that it lacks MassGen, or any of the thousands of hospitals(some which are the best on earth, think Memorial Sloan Kettering), etc. Just about anyone, with a decent enough education, can get health care through their employer. Just about every employer in the top 500 employer list offers their employees health care, for free -- often times with no co-pay required. Now if you don't have a degree, and you don't have a good job, then you can get health care for free through a welfare program.

Who suffers? Small business owners, since they do have a job, yet they have to dish out quite a few bucks for health care, but there are subsidiary programs that offer discounts.

Like I said, Canada should be compared to states, not a nation which is 10-11 times it's population, with nearly 5,000 universities. It's a silly argument almost. Most Canadians, when they are really sick, are forced to travel to the USA for health care. God-forbid if you have cancer, NYC is probably your best bet, not Toronto or Quebec. From Tech hubs, to innovations, I mean it really depends on what you want.

Also, aside from the disturbing cold, things are ridiculously expensive in Canada. If you are into Islam, NYC will give you a far more Muslim vibe, considering how many Mosques are in NY, and how the population is increasing at a party darn fast rate.

Before anybody makes any further uninformed comments, read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Canadian_and_American_economies