'Kabul is less conservative than Pakistani cities' because you get to hear less Azaan

[Khostai]

If we didn't had the wars, Kabul would have been less conservative than Pakistani cities, but at this moment Kabul and the whole of Afghanistan is far more conservative than any city or country in Asia.....

[khushal]

^^not saudi arabia.

[Khostai]

^^not saudi arabia.

Yea right. You know the saing "don't judge the book by its cover"
Its really about Saudie.....

[Khostai]

What is your point?

His point is that he thinks that Kabul is less conservative is becuase there are a lot of minorities, and he thinks that only PAshtuns are conservative the rest would go naked if they were allowed.....

[DaZahroJaam.]

kabul IS less conservative than Peshawar and in a very positive way too. Our girls mainly do walk around in jeans and scarves that show hair, however, we don't have nasty business happening behind closed doors or to the extent which is happening in Peshawar. That's too has to do eth mentalities and not azaans.
Why are you people losing your heads over how a non Muslim stranger defines Islamic conservatives?? He was there on a visit. He hasn't lived amongst you to know what happens inside some of those very same mosques that the azaans come from.

[khushal]

His point is that he thinks that Kabul is less conservative is becuase there are a lot of minorities, and he thinks that only PAshtuns are conservative the rest would go naked if they were allowed.....

If the burqa represents conservatism, then the farsiwan are more conservative because that is their custom and not pashtun.

[khushal]

kabul IS less conservative than Peshawar and in a very positive way too. Our girls mainly do walk around in jeans and scarves that show hair, however, we don't have nasty business happening behind closed doors or to the extent which is happening in Peshawar. That's too has to do eth mentalities and not azaans.
Why are you people losing your heads over how a non Muslim stranger defines Islamic conservatives?? He was there on a visit. He hasn't lived amongst you to know what happens inside some of those very same mosques that the azaans come from.

your post is about as idiotic as the guys in the artcle. defining progress by wearing jeans and the level of azaan.

[DaZahroJaam.]

your post is about as idiotic as the guys in the artcle. defining progress by wearing jeans and the level of azaan.

where did I define progress as wearing jeans??

[khushal]

right here. notice the bold.

kabul IS less conservative than Peshawar and in a very positive way too. Our girls mainly do walk around in jeans and scarves that show hair

[DaZahroJaam.]

right here. notice the bold.
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because I mentioned jeans and positive in the same paragraph, you took the liberty to assume that my only definition of positive in a society was women wearing jeans?? Quite a smartass, aren't you??
It's true what they say about some of you out there. You are not worth reasoning with and to save one's time, one should refrain from negotiating with you and just shoot you in the skull instead.
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[DaZahroJaam.]

And while we are at it, declining someone the freedom to choose how they wish to dress is not progress. It could, however, be the very definition of retrogression though. Very easily too.

[Pisho]

I don't think this guy know what conservative is
Hearing azan and wearing a veil does not make u conservative
And what does he know? He probably spent there a few months :/

[randolph85]

gauging the conservatism of a city by the amount of azaan or the volume of azaan is ridiculous. i don't think that there is any question that both kabul and peshawar have become far more conservative in the modern day than say 30 years ago. but things are not so black and white, a guy in a peran tomban and lungi might try to sell you porn in some back alley while a young blue jeans wearing university student is a pious muslim inside and out.

[Khostai]

If the burqa represents conservatism, then the farsiwan are more conservative because that is their custom and not pashtun.

It can be there original custom... but majority pashtun took it over. And most of the time in Kabul and other citys mojority of the women in chadari are pashtun women. The girls that you see whith loose headscarfs and jeans are mostly farsiwan or Hazara.....

And by the why if its only farsiwan custom why did the taliban like burqa so much that they forced every woman to wear it?
And please don't deny it.

[pashtanajan]

It can be there original custom... but majority pashtun took it over. And most of the time in Kabul and other citys mojority of the women in chadari are pashtun women. The girls that you see whith loose headscarfs and jeans are mostly farsiwan or Hazara.....

And by the why if its only farsiwan custom why did the taliban like burqa so much that they forced every woman to wear it?
And please don't deny it.

Where exactly are you getting your facts?

Go to any Pashtun family in a village and you'll see that most Pashtun women just wear their 'teekray' and their 'lahmen'. And the older women in Pashtun families –*they especially don't wear the burkas*–*they roam around freely on the streets just in their charmi (traditional clothes).

Also, in the Taliban era, though the Taliban forced burkas on women (esp. the minorities) in Afghanistan, they could not force Pashtun females from the villages to wear the burkas. For instance, the elderly females in my family roamed around the streets in the Taliban era just in their traditional clothes, not giving two-****s about the rules the Taliban were forcing on females. And, the taliban knew very well not to mess with these hot-headed elderly females. Pashtun females that came from big families (as in families with a lot of connections and history) in Afghanistan were not subjected to the same rules as other females in Afghanistan during the Taliban era.

Moreover, I find your last line of 'And by the why if its only farsiwan custom why did the taliban like burqa so much that they forced every woman to wear it?' quite nonsensical. The Taliban do not represent the majority of Pashtuns... they are a political group. How the hell are you proving your point by saying the Taliban 'likes the burqa' so much?

The Pashtuns are not religious –*they are very traditional and cultural. The burqa does not exist in the Pashtun culture. It's why mostly city-dwelling Pashtuns during the Taliban era wore burqas and not the heavily cultural Pashtuns that lived in villages.