Split Discussion: 'Aryan Race' Etc.

[یاسمینه]

sounds like idolatry. You pick from religion what suits you. Congratulations

[Toramana]

You're doing the same thing UnknownPrince does; .....excusing the perpetrator of their crimes. NATO may have used OBL and Mullah Omar as an excuse. But who said their response was valid to get just ONE person? A Whole Military Occupation for just ONE man, who wasn't even in Afghanistan

I think I have heard enough of this camel nonsense----say something convincing and logical please. Osama Bin Laden was not just one lone Arab/camel having violated the sanctity of my land and society---He fundamentally, represented an Arab nationalist/camelist movement disguised as Islam with the goal to restore the camel glory----that at the cost of other people (He should have launched his movement on the camel lands ---On the contrary, he ignobly and opportunistically chose our lands).

He had the full backing of Arab govts especially the Wahabbi Saudi kingdom, Arab/camel ideological/nationalist groups, and Arab individuals e.g. Shauikhs who supported him, overtly and covertly, with petro-dollars, political backing, and media campaigning.

One of the goals of the Osama camel movement was to spread Arab culture and political influence and subvert local culture replacing it with the despicable camel culture. The restoration of the central role of camels in the affairs of Muslim nation and the rise to the leadership status in world affairs concomitant with the assumed superior Arab geographic, demographic size and bygone glory is one the cherished desires/goals of camel nationalism.

but in YOUR motherland of Pakistan, You're Pakistani and since Pakistanis are products of foreign Imperialism and willfull slaves of European colonialism; I understand that you as a Pakistani will do whatever you can to exonerate your Imperial overlords. But that case the Inferiority Complex is squarely yours.

Instead of talking about that, you should take stalk of Arab homes every one of which is virtually a harem (brothel house) filled with *****s. You can see glimpses of that in Cairo, Lebanon, Marraco, and even in the Wahabi kingdom of Saudi Arabia. In the United Arab Emerates, men pick and disband women like condoms thanks that culture of debauchery. Every Arab home is like a rat or cockroach nest due to the polygamous tradition with exponential population growth rate.

Now I don't agree with Resistance's sweeping assault against the west; but for the same reason your idotic Excusing the West of it's atrocity and hegemonic mongering is equally pathetic if not more so.

I have my own resentment against US and UK for what they have done to Pashtuns for the lost two centuries but when I take into account the contribution of British (and the Western people in general to the world civilization) to my society, I can't help giving them some credit. Were these Arabs/camels having conquered Pashtun lands , every Pashtun daughter would be in some camel harem and Pashtun land would be parasitically plundered as the plunderous camel nature is without any contribution to its development.

And yes what happens "internally" is the internal concern of a society; Taliban are our concern, not America, NATO or anyone else. Just like we don't bug you Toramana about Heera Mundi. and Mujra Dancers We don't need others to tell us how we're supposed to handle extremists in afghanistan. We can do it ourselves.

So you may want to sell yourself to Western imperialism in hopes of erasing your humilation and shame of being a non-european; which is evident in your angst that people are shunning the idea of uniting and melding with Europeans. But we don't; You're Pakistani, we're not. That's what sets us apart.

If Turks sodomize camel daughters, sons, and sisters (as they did during Khliafath-i-Usmania), obviously that is not going to be an internal Muslim matter as proved by the way Arabs/Camel secured Western support to throw the yolk of Turkish slavery in 19th Century. Muslims are ethnically, culturally, and politically diverse and each nation has its own interests and vision for future. Besides, we are living in an international system caharacterised by complex alliances not necessarily based on religious commonality. When Muslim Pakis were raping Muslim Bangali sisters in 1971, these were Hindus that came to their rescue. Similarly, when Kurds were being massacred by brutal camels, these were Westerners that helped them. Again, as a contemporary example, the Arabs are siding with US in her actions against Iran. So that should open your eyes.

Moreover, if some Muslim in US sodomizes you, would you frankly consider it an internal Muslim matter or would approach a US court?

[randolph85]

Like what? Please open up, boss.

you didn't choose your race, buddy. if you were born black you would be spewing jibberish about building the pyrimids and how whitey stole your culture lol

[Manzareh]

Astaghfurullah!

I am a Muslim and I love Islam. But it doesn't make me love Muslims too. I hate 80 percent of them. I will love a Muslim as long as (s)he is white. So, no I won't treat equally to a Muslim of non-white stock.

Also, don't think I hate non-whites. I don't. When I see a black or somewhat, I won't fight with him. I just won't interact with him so densely as I do with whites.

hahaha your a racist, why do you hate 80% of muslims?? what good is learning numbers when you have no real knowledge of Islam. Muhammad pbuh was not from white stock so you hate him also??

anyway you dont even look like a white guy, theres plenty of punjabi's even indians that look just like you, to white people your a paki and if you were in germany at the time of hitler in the aryan hype youd be toast pal.

your a troll and a FAKE you cant even speak english properly, how long have you been living in england?

[Toramana]

However, our history is tied with the Middle East and so is our culture; of course your european colonalist manufactured ideas of "humanity" would share more with them; they're the ones who indoctrinated and brainwashed you.

Lol---now this Arab supremacist believes that every thing is linked to the Middle East which is the cultural center of the world---every beautiful thing flows from it --- and all Muslim cultures have grown out of it----This is one of the signs of "camel chauvinistic" sentiments disguised as Muslim sentiments.

Pashtun culture and identity doesn't have any connection with Arab culture whatsoever except religion which is concerned with the supernatural and abstract. But we have that connection with Judaism and Christianity as well (Islam having borrowed from these two religions). Pashtun Culture and identity evolved independently and is not derived from any other culture

[randolph85]

tormana, what is all this "we" talk. first you act like a rebel who says he has more in common with your run of the mill liberal, homosexual, non religious, westerner than you do with arabs. that i can agree with you on, you certainly are closer to those people than arabs. but then you say "we" as if now you are trying to associate yourself with 10s of millions of pashtuns who would laugh and cry at your way of thinking.

you can't have it both ways, mr. "sufi," you are as much of a racist as this nima clown khan.

[Karachi]

There is so much racism against darker people in Asia, some times I feel so sorry for the darkest people in asia like south indians for example, every one seems to hate them for their looks, people should realize that every thing is created by God equally, white is not superior in any way to dark skin, we should have the dignity to respect God's creation is all it's forms, in fact we should appreciate the diversity of the world

[Nima Khan Abdali]

did you calculate that 80% of muslims are not white?

LOL

you are a dumbass

i see

Yes.

you are son of a rotten pickle.

No, you don't.

[Nima Khan Abdali]

hahaha 1 (your a racist), why do you hate 80% of muslims?? 2 (what good is learning numbers) when you have no real knowledge of Islam. Muhammad pbuh was not from white stock so you hate him also??

anyway you dont even look like a white guy, theres plenty of 3 (punjabi's) even indians that look just like you, to white people 4 (your a paki) and if you were in germany at the time of hitler in the aryan hype 5 (youd) be toast pal.

6 (your a troll) and a FAKE you cant even speak english properly, how long have you been living in england?

corrections: 1 you are a racist
2 what good does learning numbers have
3 Punjabis
4 you are a Paki
5 you'd
6 you are a troll

Go learn English.

[Nima Khan Abdali]

tormana, what is all this "we" talk. first you act like a rebel who says he has more in common with your run of the mill liberal, homosexual, non religious, westerner than you do with arabs. that i can agree with you on, you certainly are closer to those people than arabs. but then you say "we" as if now you are trying to associate yourself with 10s of millions of pashtuns who would laugh and cry at your way of thinking.

you can't have it both ways, mr. "sufi," you are as much of a racist as this nima clown khan.

Who's clown, dude? People would laught at you with their a r s e s out in the real world, not at me.

[randolph85]

what real world? the one where you weigh 110 pounds?

[faye]

lol. laugh with their arses? must be one of your 'nimas', yar?
you a funny boy. mind if i call you alf?

[Nima Khan Abdali]

what real world? the one where you weigh 110 pounds?

No, the one that I weigh 112 pounds. It was in another thread, and you, as a moderator, and as a man, are unsuitable to that extend as you mock people for their physical inabilities. If you see a man in wheelchair in the park, you will mock him, too?

[Nima Khan Abdali]

lol. laugh with their arses? must be one of your 'nimas', yar?
you a funny boy. mind if i call you alf?

f.ck off, and come back only when you have something reasonable to talk.

[randolph85]

No, the one that I weigh 112 pounds. It was in another thread, and you, as a moderator, and as a man, are unsuitable to that extend as you mock people for their physical inabilities. If you see a man in wheelchair in the park, you will mock him, too?

physical inabilities? lol so in the thread created just for your white power rantings, you take offense at someone pointing out a physical flaw in you? all while you curse allah's creation and foresake "non white" muslims?


if i see a man in a wheelchair i may take pity, depending on the circumstances that put him in that chair. but you, who are hellbent on white pride and weighs what a thin woman does is trying to blame their physical inadequacies on smoking? perhaps you just have weak genetics.

you are like a guy in a wheel chair that hates short people.