Split Discussion: 'Aryan Race' Etc.

[Manzareh]

Nima, Muhammad pbuh was not from white stock so you hate him?? In your opinion, why wasnt he a white Aryan?

[Manzareh]

This Nima dude says he was born and raised in England, judging from his posts does anyone else think..actually KNOW that he's blatantly lying??

[RevolutionThroughReason]

This Nima dude says he was born and raised in England, judging from his posts does anyone else think..actually KNOW that he's blatantly lying??

try having a conversation in Pashto with him, not just half sentences, but a full conversation, see what happens.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

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I think I have heard enough of this camel nonsense----say something convincing and logical please. Osama Bin Laden was not just one lone Arab/camel having violated the sanctity of my land and society---He fundamentally, represented an Arab nationalist/camelist movement disguised as Islam with the goal to restore the camel glory----that at the cost of other people (He should have launched his movement on the camel lands ---On the contrary, he ignobly and opportunistically chose our lands).

He had the full backing of Arab govts especially the Wahabbi Saudi kingdom, Arab/camel ideological/nationalist groups, and Arab individuals e.g. Shauikhs who supported him, overtly and covertly, with petro-dollars, political backing, and media campaigning.

If what you're saying was even remotely true

Then you should blame NATO and America for not going into Saudi Arabia and deposing King Fahd, instead what they do is give King Fahd military supplies. Yet you give the West credit even though you yourself admit the West are the ones who propped up the Saudis. This tells me you're either confused or just intellectually dishonest.

One of the goals of the Osama camel movement was to spread Arab culture and political influence and subvert local culture replacing it with the despicable camel culture.

Sounds like conspiracy theory garbage as a pretext to justify subservience in propagating Western Hegemonic Agenda. Western brainwashing has made you paranoid.

Instead of talking about that, you should take stalk of Arab homes every one of which is virtually a harem (brothel house) filled with *****s. You can see glimpses of that in Cairo, Lebanon, Marraco, and even in the Wahabi kingdom of Saudi Arabia. In the United Arab Emerates, men pick and disband women like condoms thanks that culture of debauchery. Every Arab home is like a rat or cockroach nest due to the polygamous tradition with exponential population growth rate.

I only talk about that, because you're a Pakistani; if I was talking to Al-Arab the Saudi I would talk about Saudis, UAE, Morocco etc. See I am mentioning these things because you're a humungous hypocrite so I have to stay relevant. It wasn't relevant for me to mention what happens in Saudi and Lebanon, because you're not Lebanese or Saudi. Pay closer attention to what goes on in this forum. Observe my debates with Al-Arab who is a Saudi Wahhabist and what I say about the Saudi Arabian government.

Hope you understand.

I have my own resentment against US and UK for what they have done to Pashtuns for the lost two centuries but when I take into account the contribution of British (and the Western people in general to the world civilization) to my society, I can't help giving them some credit.

Well that only demonstrates you have a colonized mentality due to the residue of European subjugation; that even though you know all of what they have done to ruin your society you still "give them credit". This is the psychology of the enslaved I can't think of any other reasoning for doing that other than the fact they're the center of global power right now and because of this inferiority complex you have you'll affirm their narrative to divide and rule in hopes of winning their favor. If the Arabs were in the same position today; you'd be first in line for a sex change operation to be in the "camel harems" you speak so vividly of.

Were these Arabs/camels having conquered Pashtun lands , every Pashtun daughter would be in some camel harem and Pashtun land would be parasitically plundered as the plunderous camel nature is without any contribution to its development.

Well Pashtuns are currently Muslim because people from the Middle East came to these regions; so if what you're saying were true, it would have already happened over 1000 years ago. The fact it hasn't despite them having the opportunity to do so; only reinforces that your hypothesis is fully just brainwashing and indoctrination. Now by "development" I assume you mean they didn't impose their infrastructure to exploit the Pashtuns and their land as the Europeans have done. But because you're mentally colonized; you know nothing of Pashtun history our kin in the Middle East helped Mirwais Khan Hotak liberate Afghans from the Safawids. The Scholars of Bayt Al Hikmah in Baghdad made many of their great discoveries in the the area now known as Afghanistan. For their time; they contributed a lot to Pashtun society. Which is much more than what's happening now in European hands.

Arabs don't have bases in Afghanistan, Arabs aren't patrolling the streets and imposing their jurisdiction on Afghans. Arabs never divided up Afghan territory, or tried colonizing Afghans, and subjugating Afghans on their ethnicity.

Only the Europeans did; and if you give that credit; all your claims of Pashtun welfare is fraudulent.

If Turks sodomize camel daughters, sons, and sisters (as they did during Khliafath-i-Usmania), obviously that is not going to be an internal Muslim matter as proved by the way Arabs/Camel secured Western support to throw the yolk of Turkish slavery in 19th Century. Muslims are ethnically

That is an internal matter and you're deliberately misrepresenting history. Only certain Arab clans; namely the Tribes of Najd and Kuwait were affilliated with the British. The Yemenis, Iraqis, the Hijazis, were in favor of maintaining the Khilafah Uthmaniyah. So your argument is simply false and faulty You're arguing a very superficial orientalist narrative.


culturally, and politically diverse and each nation has its own interests and vision for future. Besides, we are living in an international system caharacterised by complex alliances not necessarily based on religious commonality.

When Muslim Pakis were raping Muslim Bangali sisters in 1971, these were Hindus that came to their rescue. Similarly, when Kurds were being massacred by brutal camels, these were Westerners that helped them. Again, as a contemporary example, the Arabs are siding with US in her actions against Iran. So that should open your eyes.

When your country Pakistan was involved in raping Bengalis; it's quite different; since Pakistan is not an Internal Muslim problem your country was an externally Imposed corruption in the region; by Western powers. So in effect it was an extension of their mechanisms left in place. This thus becomes their duty to remove.

Moreover, if some Muslim in US sodomize you, would you frankly consider it an internal Muslim matter or would approach a US court?

Again different argument different context; We're in the U.S. therefore U.S. Laws apply. If Farhat Taj Andersen and other Leftist drones promotes their fraudulent social corruption in Pakhtunkhwah; should we invite Saudi Arabians to deal with her? She's an internal Pakhtun problem, which has nothing to do with them. The only reason other Muslims got involved in afghanistan is because the Communists in Afghanistan started allowing Russians to interfere in Afghanistan.

Your logic is therefore flawed.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Lol---now this Arab supremacist believes that every thing is linked to the Middle East which is the cultural center of the world---every beautiful thing flows from it --- and all Muslim cultures have grown out of it----This is an evidence of "camel nationalistic" chauvinism disguised as Muslim Ummah.

Pashtun culture and identity doesn't have any connection with Arab culture whatsoever except religion which is concerned with the supernatural and abstract. But we have that connection with Judaism and Christianity as well Islam having borrowed from these two religions. Pashtun Culture and identity evolved independently and is not derived from any other culture

Well unless you can show me how Islam came to Afghanistan except via a "Middle East to Central Asia" migration you're basically saying brainwashed Heera Mundi barking left over by your Colonizers. It certainly didn't come from China or the British

It is only the inferiority complex that comes with being indoctrinated by European Mental colonization that obvious reality of Historical trends are "evidence" of "Arab Supremacy".

Historically the entire Muslim world has been at odds with the Europeans so such notions fall squarely in the interests of Europeans to maintain a condition of divide and rule schemes by cultivating psyche of resentment by stirring this delusion of feeling inferiority to some alleged supremacism and thereby maintain a division and internal conflict that maintains dependence to imperiali designs. This is the classic strategy of colonizers.

Pashtun culture does in fact have many connections to the Arabs, as well as Persians and the Turks too and even India. It is the historical byproduct of the Intra-West Central-South Asiatic Diffusion.

The reason you see otherwise is becaue you have become colonized and distanced from Pashtun culture due to colonial indoctrination via Pakis tan

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musa khana

can you slow down the trolling?

[sahil112]

LOLLL just live your life according to pashtunwali and forget this aryan crap that notion has passed in present day

[Karachi]

the aryans whoever they were, what did really achieve? what monuments did they build? not sure why everybody wants to be them.

[sahil112]

the aryans whoever they were, what did really achieve? what monuments did they build? not sure why everybody wants to be them.

it is human nature to associate ourselves with past glories in the hope they will make us shine and stand apart in present day, they won a couple of wars etc its ok to be proud but to want to be part of something that dosnt exsist anymore your giving into basic need for exsistence, to feel happy, glory achievement link yourself with something, its just our nature

[Kushan Prince]

Hate's his own white race ! Pashtuns are white people from the mountain of Afghaistan, we got mixed with Turkish, Arabic, Mongolian, Paki/Punjabi/Dravidian/Desi/Gypsy and Bnai Israel/Jewish peoples, but in the core, we are white people like Nuristanis and Kalashes No, Alexander was Greek, everyone knows greek people are dark like italians and Spanish.

Mixed people? Slap yourself you disgrace. P.S your not white.

[Tjanaparh]

What does change the colour of the skin, if the mind is dark?