Split Discussion: 'Aryan Race' Etc.

[R3SISTANC3]

RESISTANCE3, you sound to be suffering from the same inferiority complex for which which you are blaming Nima Khan Abdali as indicated by the misanthropy that you have expressed time and again about non-Muslims and Westerners especially. Any positive/balanced person would not harbor negative feelings about other groups and not let existing situation influence one's humanistic feelings.

Evidence would be nice before making claims.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

are you Raymond?

[R3SISTANC3]

Nima Khan Abdali, RESISTANCE3, Lynx, etc. on this forum are plain blackmailers. The want you to hate the West and every thing Western although they don't know that these were the one-eyed Mullah Omar and Osmama that provided US, etc. the excuse for operation in Afghanistan.

[Toramana]

I believe Pashtun to be just Pashtun. I hate any Pashtun that is not happy with just the Pashtun identity it self so they find the need to associate with Jews, Arabs, Whites, and aliens from Mars. Such people suffer from complexes which is not healthy for our people in general. That sort of attitude opens Pashtun to victimization.

But we do have more in common with Arabs than Europeans. To deny that is to deny facts and reality.

No commonality with Arabs except religion---I will rather be happy with a humanistic, progressive, creative Westerner (with whom I share humanistic values) than a Wahabi. Moreover, why not immigrate to Mecca, Madina instead of staying in the West?

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Nima Khan Abdali, RESISTANCE3, Lynx, etc. on this forum are plain blackmailers. The want you to hate the West and every thing Western by blaming you to be pro-Western if you show slightest liberalist inclinations. They would never accept the fact that these were the one-eyed Mullah Omar and Osmama bin Laden that provided US, etc. the excuse for the military operation in Afghanistan.

Moreover, these people cannot see the (far worst) oppression in Muslim societies themselves ---every kind of oppression based on gender, class, sect, religious affiliation, ethnic affinity, etc. To them, if one Muslim (or Muslim nation) massacres another Muslim (or Muslim nation) that is ok. They think this is Muslims' internal matter that should be tolerated for the sake of some utopian Muslim unity.

You're doing the same thing UnknownPrince does; .....excusing the perpetrator of their crimes. NATO may have used OBL and Mullah Omar as an excuse. But who said their response was valid to get just ONE person? A Whole Military Occupation for just ONE man, who wasn't even in Afghanistan

but in YOUR motherland of Pakistan, You're Pakistani and since Pakistanis are products of foreign Imperialism and willfull slaves of European colonialism; I understand that you as a Pakistani will do whatever you can to exonerate your Imperial overlords. But that case the Inferiority Complex is squarely yours.

Now I don't agree with Resistance's sweeping assault against the west; but for the same reason your idotic Excusing the West of it's atrocity and hegemonic mongering is equally pathetic if not more so.

You embody precisely the Uncle Tom, Spinelessness that typifies Pakistan and others like you of Pakistani origins.

There's no doubt the hegemonic machinations do in fact involve promoting their cultural and behavioral ideals on other societies; especially ones that view many of their practices and lifestyles as a desecration of dignity and sense of Evolutionarily adapted Intuitions of Behavior. So Naturally those who use the banners of Liberalism to propagate patterns of behavior which are cultural mores of Europeans; will be indentified as slaves of Imperialists.

And yes what happens "internally" is the internal concern of a society; Taliban are our concern, not America, NATO or anyone else. Just like we don't bug you Toramana about Heera Mundi. and Mujra Dancers We don't need others to tell us how we're supposed to handle extremists in afghanistan. We can do it ourselves.

So you may want to sell yourself to Western imperialism in hopes of erasing your humilation and shame of being a non-european; which is evident in your angst that people are shunning the idea of uniting and melding with Europeans. But we don't; You're Pakistani, we're not. That's what sets us apart.

[R3SISTANC3]

No commonality with Arabs except religion---I will rather be happy with a humanistic, progressive, creative Westerner (with whom I share humanistic values) than a Wahabi. Moreover, why not immigrate to Mecca, Madina instead of staying in the West?

If you were a Bosniak and if you had said you had no commonality with Arabs but religion then it would be believable.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

No commonality with Arabs except religion---I will rather be happy with a humanistic, progressive, creative Westerner (with whom I share humanistic values) than a Wahabi. Moreover, why not immigrate to Mecca, Madina instead of staying in the West?

Well of course you're Pakistani; naturally you'll have more in common with Europeans; they are after all your forefathers, your slave drivers and your owners.

However, our history is tied with the Middle East and so is our culture; of course your european colonalist manufactured ideas of "humanity" would share more with them; they're the ones who indoctrinated and brainwashed you.

But they also created Wahhabism; remember the British were the ones who helped the Saudi Wahhabis come to power. So really you and the Wahhabis are more in common with them , then we are.

So please stop trying tp pretend you're here to promote progress and creativity under disguise of Human values; it is clear to everyone you just want to restore the European Imperialist strangehold on the rest of us.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

White Europid women

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I definitely don't want that for Pashtun women ...but hey I'm all for European women doing those things; no offense but those women are gorgeous.

but we should be diverse, not everyone has to follow the sur farangyan.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Look, a white hajdi sand negro:

oh my god ...they're twins.

[randolph85]

No commonality with Arabs except religion---I will rather be happy with a humanistic, progressive, creative Westerner (with whom I share humanistic values) than a Wahabi. Moreover, why not immigrate to Mecca, Madina instead of staying in the West?

well of course YOU have more in common with western whitey than arab muslims, but that doesn't hold true with the vast majority of muslim pashtuns. by saying "no commonality except religion" that would imply that religion plays a minor role in the lives of middle eastern people and the links between cultures is weak. we both know thats not true at all, that is why you have more in common with people outside the muslim world than inside it.

[Nima Khan Abdali]

You're doing the same thing UnknownPrince does; .....excusing the perpetrator of their crimes. NATO may have used OBL and Mullah Omar as an excuse. But who said their response was valid to get just ONE person? A Whole Military Occupation for just ONE man, who wasn't even in Afghanistan

but in YOUR motherland of Pakistan, You're Pakistani and since Pakistanis are products of foreign Imperialism and willfull slaves of European colonialism; I understand that you as a Pakistani will do whatever you can to exonerate your Imperial overlords. But that case the Inferiority Complex is squarely yours.

Now I don't agree with Resistance's sweeping assault against the west; but for the same reason your idotic Excusing the West of it's atrocity and hegemonic mongering is equally pathetic if not more so.

You embody precisely the Uncle Tom, Spinelessness that typifies Pakistan and others like you of Pakistani origins.

There's no doubt the hegemonic machinations do in fact involve promoting their cultural and behavioral ideals on other societies; especially ones that view many of their practices and lifestyles as a desecration of dignity and sense of Evolutionarily adapted Intuitions of Behavior. So Naturally those who use the banners of Liberalism to propagate patterns of behavior which are cultural mores of Europeans; will be indentified as slaves of Imperialists.

And yes what happens "internally" is the internal concern of a society; Taliban are our concern, not America, NATO or anyone else. Just like we don't bug you Toramana about Heera Mundi. and Mujra Dancers We don't need others to tell us how we're supposed to handle extremists in afghanistan. We can do it ourselves.

So you may want to sell yourself to Western imperialism in hopes of erasing your humilation and shame of being a non-european; which is evident in your angst that people are shunning the idea of uniting and melding with Europeans. But we don't; You're Pakistani, we're not. That's what sets us apart.

You tell this things to a woman, you must be ashamed. I don't respect you anymore.

And besides you say "Pakistani" as it is something bad and shameful, don't you know that Pakistan is the country with the highest Pashtun population in the world, and those Pashtuns carry the Pakistani identity. You contradict with yourself.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

You tell this things to a woman, you must be ashamed. I don't respect you anymore.

And besides you say "Pakistani" as it is something bad and shameful, don't you know that Pakistan is the country with the highest Pashtun population in the world, and those Pashtuns carry the Pakistani identity. You contradict with yourself.

Toramana isn't a woman. Why would you think he is?

You look more womanly than Toramana is. and it's about quantity, it's about quality

[R3SISTANC3]

Reading further, I see your point. That I am white and that I think we're related to some Europeans does not prevent me from hating some of them, especially the boss-walking USA (whose president is not even white) or the UK. I am a UK citizen and frankly speaking, I have never been to Afghanistan nor any other neighbouring countries. I live with the English, I like them, they are my friends, neigbours, team members, teachers, students; my life has been here! But it does not make me siding them rather than my brothers - Pashtuns! Those people who take advantage of something and do vandalism in the name of operation in Afghanistan, can just come and suck my d i c k! You misunderstood me - all of you! I'm with you hadjis I am not with those a s s h o l e s! Guys, I love you, for you are my brothers, my blood! How can you think I'm with the enemy! But beware something - europeans don't even know who you are: they don't know there is a lioncave in Central Asia with fear-of-nothing, hospitable lions and lionesses. So they can't hate you. They can only be afraid of you, if they knew you. But they don't. The "Westerners" who do that vandalism is the paid government dogs, not the people.

In summary, rather than letting you think that I'm with those who make you suffer, I'd just say **** that kind of cousin, I'm with my brothers.

If you ever visit Afghanistan you will change your mind about many things. You will see Pashtun in all shape and size. When you say you are White, you send out a wrong message to millions of Pashtun that might not fit that criterion. Our society is held back divisions created by classicism and caste in certain areas. When you introduce this element it will further set us back. We are only now as a people and nation coming out of old tribal and class lines we dont need further divisions.

It saddens me that a young Pashtun like you have a tattoo of a racist and bigoted group of people who suffer from a pathology that one can describe genetically prone to intolerance towards outsiders. These are the same people that will kill your people with impunity, collect their body parts as trophies and take pictures to share with their friends and families so they can laugh at the misery of a poor hajdi. The same people responsible for killing countless Afghans and Pashtun in 3 historic wars. The same people that divided the Afghan empire and gave away majority of the Pashtun to the East in bondage to their loyal servants. The same people that are now busy slaughtering your people, people that look just like you only wearing different cloths with a push of a button sitting thousands of miles away sipping Starbucks coffee. Too bad if they were kids, we thought they were insurgents.

If these incidents were isolated, and these adventures weren't frequent or repeated through out their history again and again one can say I am biased, racist, and discriminatory against a specific group of people. However, history doesn't lie. The evidence is there for all to see.

[Nima Khan Abdali]

well of course YOU have more in common with western whitey than arab muslims, but that doesn't hold true with the vast majority of muslim pashtuns. by saying "no commonality except religion" that would imply that religion plays a minor role in the lives of middle eastern people and the links between cultures is weak. we both know thats not true at all, that is why you have more in common with people outside the muslim world than inside it.

You promote out your belief as an advertisement. All of us are Muslim, to whom do you show off? Before these last three four posts I was thinking you people who are against me are elderly people with reasonable facts at all, and quite normal people. But now, I think you - Randolph85, then Revolution and Resistance are one of those unreasonable advertisers.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

You promote out your belief as an advertisement. All of us are Muslim, to whom do you show off? Before these last three four posts I was thinking you people who are against me are elderly people with reasonable facts at all, and quite normal people. But now, I think you - Randolph85, then Revolution and Resistance are one of those unreasonable advertisers.

you say we're unreasonable and without facts?

Then how come when I have asked you to present scientifically verified data of you claims you run away like a mouse

You're just upset that Pashtuns are opposed to "brotherhood" with Europeans; you have such an inferiority complex and want to be accepted by them so desperately; I really feel bad for you.