Are Muslim women in the West averse to going back to Pakistan/Afghanistan?

[Elite Pakhtun]

The purpose of marriage is to find peace, tranquility, love and care. That environment is suitable for procreation. The purpose of marriage is not sex or just procreation. Both parties need to benefit and become satisfied and improve their lives.

Women are not commodities and they are not more vulnerable to negative influences of living in the West. In fact, men are probably more likely to have sexually transmitted diseases and all other types of filth. Because men from Muslim families are more likely to go astray during their youth than women.

People love to talk s"it about women and degrade women as if all Muslima's in the West are stupid and dirty.

if you think ill of all women then your mother and your sisters are probably prostitutes. If they are not, then you are probably insane. Because normal people don't do that.

Uhhhhh... buddy. Muslims come in different levels of religiousness.

Also... experience it first hand before discrediting it so readily. Don't assume if a topic of this type is brought up, that it's purely due to paranoia. It happens enough to be noticeable.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

Uhhhhh... buddy. Muslims come in different levels of religiousness.

Also... experience it first hand before discrediting it so readily. Don't assume if a topic of this type is brought up, that it's purely due to paranoia. It happens enough to be noticeable.

Actually I was involved in family counseling of families for years. As a professional I happen to know what I am talking about.

[Elite Pakhtun]

Actually I was involved in family counseling of families for years. As a professional I happen to know what I am talking about.

What was the average age of your patient? Does your experience go counter to what others out meeting people say?

Are you saying that it's not typical of Muslim women raised in the west to be averse to moving back for any period of time?

[Kakar-Wardak]

Importing brides is probably the most stupid thing ever. It costs money and it makes life miserable for women.

Believing that all women in the West are bad and not good enough says allot about the men who think like this.

I will not be importing any bride I will most likely move back, my mum wants me to marry a girl from the west but my dad tells me to marry from back home, I already told my mum I will not marry a western raised girl so back home it is.

[Kakar-Wardak]

My buddy is saying it's far too common. It is easily the norm. For some reason the idea of spending any time back home is a deal breaker. Lol. I laugh because the girls aren't anywhere near attractive enough to be that picky.

https://20somethinghuh.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/the-marriage-zone-analysis-and-findings-pdf.pdf

Read this. It is a classic. Also very accurate.

Will answer the others in my next post.

Well I am quite a few years off from marriage if one is to go by that chart, Your chart only applies to feminised societies, so all you guys who want to get married in the west read that chart.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

What was the average age of your patient? Does your experience go counter to what others out meeting people say?

Are you saying that it's not typical of Muslim women raised in the west to be averse to moving back for any period of time?

I was involved in counseling in conflict resolution, I don't have patients.

I know of many family problems because men imported their wives from back home. And in some cases, women importing husbands from back home. In both cases, there are huge problems.

I don't know of any family moving back to Afghanistan and having problems.

But I know Afghan community very well and most people, men and women don't want to move back due to current circumstances.

[Traveller]

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I'm 31. I swear I'm not iblis.

I keep hearing references to Iblis being in his 40s, is that true? Do people that old even browse Internet forums?

[ZarakDurrani606]

I keep hearing references to Iblis being in his 40s, is that true? Do people that old even browse Internet forums?

Janan za darta yo rekhtya khabara koma, da che maa pakhpala sulekhtu kaalo na hum ziyat mashar kasaan pa de forums ledalee dee..... i know for a fact that the (erstwhile?) Mod 'torkham' is over 50 and and there's a regular slew of members here that are masharaan. 40 kho zan zalmiyan garreen.

[toughpashtun]

I keep hearing references to Iblis being in his 40s, is that true? Do people that old even browse Internet forums?

47 here, and proud. And we do browse Internet forums.

Edit: Well , two months short of 47,to be honest. But you get the point.

[ZarakDurrani606]

47 here, and proud. And we do browse Internet forums.

Edit: Well , two months short of 47,to be honest. But you get the point.

Waye! @47...... pakhairoona mashra, staray nashe

[Adam]

Why would any woman raised in the west want to go back to Afg/Pak? Being confined in the house all day and then getting stared at by moustachio creeps when you do out sounds like alot of fun.

[ZarakDurrani606]

Why would any woman raised in the west want to go back to Afg/Pak? Being confined in the house all day and then getting stared at by moustachio creeps when you do out sounds like alot of fun.

So they're not creeped upon by mirpuri hoodlums and busybodies in the west then? I don't think that a pakhtana from say, rural afghanistan or khyber would be "creeped" upon unless the culprit was asking to be shot.

[Kakar-Wardak]

Why would any woman raised in the west want to go back to Afg/Pak? Being confined in the house all day and then getting stared at by moustachio creeps when you do out sounds like alot of fun.

Women don't know what is best for them, the best place for a women is her home.

[Adam]

So they're not creeped upon by mirpuri hoodlums and busybodies in the west then? I don't think that a pakhtana from say, rural afghanistan or khyber would be "creeped" upon unless the culprit was asking to be shot.

Sure, but you aren't surrounded by them everytime you go outside.

lol, try asking some and see what they say. Don't forget men who intentionally bump into women in markets etc

[ZarakDurrani606]

Sure, but you aren't surrounded by them everytime you go outside.

lol, try asking some and see what they say. Don't forget men who intentionally bump into women in markets etc

Cases such as these are extremely rare. Men "bumping" into women incidents, although not unheard of, are
extraneous in their nature in their relevance to this topic. Like you said, women herw are'nt surrounded by them everytime they go out. But i agree that the environment isn't conducive to the enjoyment of liberties that people come to know in western countries.