Are Muslim women in the West averse to going back to Pakistan/Afghanistan?

[Traveller]

Janan za darta yo rekhtya khabara koma, da che maa pakhpala sulekhtu kaalo na hum ziyat mashar kasaan pa de forums ledalee dee..... i know for a fact that the (erstwhile?) Mod 'torkham' is over 50 and and there's a regular slew of members here that are masharaan. 40 kho zan zalmiyan garreen.

Os rata pata olageda. Za kho der kashar yam no da ma ta dera ajeeba kha bara lageda.

[khushal]

Are the women in the west, who were born and raised in whichever country they're in, highly averse to moving to Pak/Afg in the future?

A buddy of mine tells me they're very much like this. He's been talking to a few women, just to see what's out there (I guess there's a bit of pressure on him, and he wants true love or something, because age), and he's telling me that the vast majority who grew up in Canada/USA are very much against the idea of spending "a few years" in Pakistan/Afghanistan.

Anyone with insight on this? What's the deal? Spoilt bratz? Are they stupid? Both?

I didn't read the thread since most of it is non sense.

I can say in the US and Canada, both males and females would not want to live in the AFPak region. The economic/health/education opportunities that AmCan offers are much greater than AfPak. All the previous immigrants like the Irish, the Polish, German, Scandinavian, etc never went back. So if you have relatives that live here, you must accept that they are here for good and so are their offsprings.

[toughpashtun]

Waye! @47...... pakhairoona mashra, staray nashe

ta kho da 22 kalo mashoom ye , agha bal thread me oledo no khabar shwam .Kakar Wardak hum sta amzolay de.
Zama khyal wo che aksariat ba 30+ wi

[toughpashtun]

We deviated from the main topic.

I won't speak about Afghanistan as I've not lived there and not aware of all the facts ,but [MENTION=19566]Elite Pakhtun[/MENTION] ,
I think that it is very much possible for anyone to have a good career in a major city in Pakistan such as the capital,Lahore or Karachi.
You mentioned that the girl was a nurse.That of course does not have scope here(actually its looked down upon) but other professions fare much better.

In this part of the world , to lead a good life , it all depends on money for the most part.You can buy 'comfort' eg good house in nice area means reliable supply of gas,water and electricity(for which you have generators also).Quality healthcare and education are easily available in major cities.

I would say it again boils down to culture, atmosphere and vibe , which of course are different of Pakistan and the West.

[Traveller]

We deviated from the main topic.

I won't speak about Afghanistan as I've not lived there and not aware of all the facts ,but [MENTION=19566]Elite Pakhtun[/MENTION] ,
I think that it is very much possible for anyone to have a good career in a major city in Pakistan such as the capital,Lahore or Karachi.
You mentioned that the girl was a nurse.That of course does not have scope here(actually its looked down upon) but other professions fare much better.

In this part of the world , to lead a good life , it all depends on money for the most part.You can buy 'comfort' eg good house in nice area means reliable supply of gas,water and electricity(for which you have generators also).Quality healthcare and education are easily available in major cities.

I would say it again boils down to culture, atmosphere and vibe , which of course are different of Pakistan and the West.

How would you say the situation is in Peshawar?

[Elite Pakhtun]

@toughpashtun, You are correct in your description. I've lived a big part of my life in Pakistan, and I agree with what you've said.

The girl and her specific job isn't important... I don't think my friend has found anyone tbh... he's just experiencing this pushback. Whether there's the same job, or something as enjoyable and kinda simliar, will always be an issue when moving... the point I'm trying to get across is that, even though going back is iffy (i.e. no idea whether they will or will not), the mere possibility is enough to make some of them shun my friend.

@khushal, the biggest thing about AmCan is the material wealth. You can easily buy better cars, electronics are cheap, new technology arrives in these places before anywhere else, other things like cell phone technology (LTE, etc) is here years before it reaches pak, and earning in dollars makes it all cheap. That's the bottom line. There's also safety, especially in a place like Canada. Although, I think the dangerous-ness of AfPak is highly overrated, but what do I know?

Thing is, there's a lot of good stuff in AfPak as well. Living like a king has it's perks. Who wants to pay all those taxes? In AmCan, if you make even basic money, you'll have enemies surrounding you. In Pak, you get everything handed to you just because you have money. Food is actually food. There's certainly some benefit, otherwise it wouldn't be a consideration.

That said, yes, some people never leave North America, and others have US/Canada/EU/UK passports and never leave Pakistan (I know a few like that). Many also switch it up. I know a guy (former friend) who is from Pak, lived in Canada, went back a few years ago. Not sure if he'll come back to Canada or not... but he's lived most of his life in Canada. My point is there's no promises.

[toughpashtun]

How would you say the situation is in Peshawar?

Not that many career oppurtunities plus I'd think that a person having lived abroad would find it harder to adjust in Peshawar.