Ban and delete those who ban and delete

[Manzareh]

[MENTION=18887]Damir9000[/MENTION] just has an interest in debating Islam. You're over analyzing this way too much. What if someone told you to stop talking about Pashtuns 24/7 or history 24/7 or some other thing that interests you? The same thing applies here. I don't think he is here to "show off his Atheism", it's just something he likely enjoys debating over here. I haven't really seen the thread that got deleted so I won't specify it, but I will stay this: posts critical of Islam should be allowed IMO regardless of the quantity they are posted in. Just my opinion since I believe in freedom of speech.

Thing is you atheists have no manners, your animalistic tendencies and foul mouthes outway any form of academic debate, force deletion and so fourth. So far you are unable to conduct a reasonable dialogue without posting naked pictures of women, calling our prophet names and provoking a war like attitude. Sit down with your kin badlun damir etc and then come back with some manners and etiquettes of approaching us, maybe then you will get somewhere.

[Damir9000]

It relates totally to the management decision (correct in my opinion) to remove your troll thread.

Since you asked I might as well answer and add some additional comments.

1. I have more life experience than many people here including some of the so-called "Islamist" fanboys and I have lived in an Arab middle eastern society, been to the homes of famous Arab scholars etc.

Having seen a little bit more of life (though by no means far less than many others, why do you think I always respect an elder like Toramana, because with age comes greater experiences which bring it greater wisdom) than others here, it may surprise you that - beyond the whole constant Islam-bashing obsession - I think you're a nicer guy than many of the so-called "Islamists" here, most of whom don't like me and I in turn don't like them.


2. That thread was probably removed due to complaints by members who have been here for years and contributed to this site being what it is with their posts and activity.

They do not run the site and have to obey rules, but their sensitivities are taken in to consideration.

People here are free to question religion, religious practises, "Islamic" groups (I have criticized Wahabis, ISIS, Taliban, Jamaat e "Islami","Muslim" Brotherhood, Erdogan, Saudi etc) and other things.

However you have just taken it to an extreme with constant in-your-face Islam-bashing.

You seem to have an inferiority complex about being viewed as "less Pashtun" or not even a "real" Pashtun due to being an atheist. If you did not shove it in front of people's face and just camouflaged it with the more common "I'm not really religious" line that others use, no one would care or question your Pashtunness.

Due to this inferiority complex and resentment you are coming here and bashing Islam non-stop. Imagine every day I started an "atheist" bashing thread. Imagine every day I insulted things sacred to a big portion or the majority of members here.

As I said there have been members here who were open atheists and one even used to appear on TV shows and everyone knew who he was (Amir Ghaznavi), but you seem to think that you are the first Pashtun on earth who is an atheist, and you probably have some sort of narcissistic joy in openly flaunting the supposed "novelty" and "originality" of this.



3. This is not a religious forum and a pseudo-religious extremist (Ghumbasa) was banned last year due to constantly provoking and insulting users, she also earned a lot of dislike by her - similar to you - spamming of copy & paste articles, but whilst you promote atheism, she promoted traditional pseudo-Islam ("Mullahism" in the words of a then moderator, gadoonwal).

So don't try and play the victim card.

This forum has had an atheist moderator and also a moderator who affiliated herself with a moderate version of Salafism. Admin Khan is a very nice person and broad-minded and trying to create an environment where all Pashtuns be it ultra-religious to atheists feel comfortable, but extremists be they religious or atheists need to ensure they don't go too far and provoke people.

By the way Admin Khan is a Pakhtun but also a Muslim (a person who respects other religious communities and not-so-religious people either), at least just out of respect for the forum owner (who we are all merely guests of, posting here is not a right but a privilege, just like going to someones house, and this applies to me foremost)...at least out of respect for the forum owner, quit bashing his religion non-stop 24-7, every single day.

Move on.

I don't have an inferiority complex about being Pashtun. My thread about Pashtun & Atheism is to show that Muslims don't own the Pashtun identity.

[Damir9000]

Thing is you atheists have no manners, your animalistic tendencies and foul mouthes outway any form of academic debate, force deletion and so fourth. So far you are unable to conduct a reasonable dialogue without posting naked pictures of women, calling our prophet names and provoking a war like attitude. Sit down with your kin badlun damir etc and then come back with some manners and etiquettes of approaching us, maybe then you will get somewhere.

Maybe Muslims like yourselves should grow thicker skins.
Funny how the Great religion of Allah who is supposedly the strongest entity in the Universe and beyond, is so easy to offend.

Offence is taken, not given.

Why does the opinion of Ex Muslims from my deleted thread offend you so much?

Muslims have no manners. They beat a person's wife for showing her ankles.
They have a problem interacting with other females if it doesn't involve beating them.


Muslims live in A La La La Land.

[DaZahroJaam.]

[MENTION=18887]Damir9000[/MENTION] just has an interest in debating Islam. You're over analyzing this way too much. What if someone told you to stop talking about Pashtuns 24/7 or history 24/7 or some other thing that interests you? The same thing applies here. I don't think he is here to "show off his Atheism", it's just something he likely enjoys debating over here. I haven't really seen the thread that got deleted so I won't specify it, but I will stay this: posts critical of Islam should be allowed IMO regardless of the quantity they are posted in. Just my opinion since I believe in freedom of speech.

That is what I thought until I woke up to find him in a thread where he was posting random pictures from google of a man surrounded by naked dancing women which was supposedly depicting the "harems" of the prophet Mohammad.
I am all for freedom of speech and religion but that right there was offensive and provocative. That is not the sort of a hobby that needs to be tolerated or appreciated. It's okay to have a different religious opinion of something, it's not okay to go around mocking others and then complain about lack of tolerance.

[Damir9000]

That is what I thought until I woke up to find him in a thread where he was posting random pictures from google of a man surrounded by naked dancing women which was supposedly depicting the "harems" of the prophet Mohammad.
I am all for freedom of speech and religion but that right there was offensive and provocative. That is not the sort of a hobby that needs to be tolerated or appreciated. It's okay to have a different religious opinion of something, it's not okay to go around mocking others and then complain about lack of tolerance.

Those paintings of a Man with his Harem weren't of the prophet Muhammad.
The men in those paintings were random sultans or wealthy men.
The architecture gives it away. We all know desert Arabs didn't build anything.

But, Muhammad did have all the same ingredients as these Sultans.
Muhammad is also written to have a very big sexual appetite.
So, imagining he had a similar lifestyle isn't so far-fetched.

[Damir9000]

What was offensive about "Testimonials of Ex Muslims" thread anyway?

[DaZahroJaam.]

You and I are not having a conversation over this.

[Manzareh]

Maybe Muslims like yourselves should grow thicker skins.
Funny how the Great religion of Allah who is supposedly the strongest entity in the Universe and beyond, is so easy to offend.

Offence is taken, not given.

Why does the opinion of Ex Muslims from my deleted thread offend you so much?

Muslims have no manners. They beat a person's wife for showing her ankles.
They have a problem interacting with other females if it doesn't involve beating them.


Muslims live in A La La La Land.

What the heck does that picture show, i can post 1000 pictures of your white masters beating the crap out of women, infact i can show you videos and post statistics of abuse against females by kafirs.. right now on youtube i'm watching 6 police officers mercilessly beating the crap of a mentally ill old man for no apparent reason. Don't justify your pathetic views by pictures you dork your not 6 years old, although you like posting pictures of 6 years olds, but that's another story.

[Damir9000]

What the heck does that picture show, i can post 1000 pictures of your white masters beating the crap out of women, infact i can show you videos and post statistics of abuse against females by kafirs.. right now on youtube i'm watching 6 police officers mercilessly beating the crap of a mentally ill old man for no apparent reason. Don't justify your pathetic views by pictures you dork your not 6 years old, although you like posting pictures of 6 years olds, but that's another story.

That example was to show that you people lack manners & humanity because of your religion.

Nobody defends the terrible actions caused by kaffirs.
Funny how you used them as a justification for Islamic barbarisms.

[Manzareh]

That example was to show that you people lack manners & humanity because of your religion.

Nobody defends the terrible actions caused by kaffirs.
Funny how you used them as a justification for Islamic barbarisms.

Ok atheists are responsible for countless lives and acts of barbarism around the world. Does that mean you people lack manners & humanity because of your lack of religion? i think so too.
See, you are a bigger threat to humanity because of your concept of life, as an atheist you only live for this life, eat, shiit, make money, sex, have fun and die, the world is your playground - therefore no rules. You have no morals no conscious no nothing, your just animals in the food chain.. there is no such thing as the devil for you there is no such thing as evil which explains your lack of respect and compassion you have for people. The world would be a better place without people like you.

[Sarbani]

Ok atheists are responsible for countless lives and acts of barbarism around the world. Does that mean you people lack manners & humanity because of your lack of religion? i think so too.
See, you are a bigger threat to humanity because of your concept of life, as an atheist you only live for this life, eat, shiit, make money, sex, have fun and die, the world is your playground - therefore no rules. You have no morals no conscious no nothing, your just animals in the food chain.. there is no such thing as the devil for you there is no such thing as evil which explains your lack of respect and compassion you have for people. The world would be a better place without people like you.

So you think we need God as an authority to have morals? So the only reason theists do any good stuff is because of the fear of God and not any moral reasons? Hey, your words, not mine.

[Damir9000]

Ok atheists are responsible for countless lives and acts of barbarism around the world. Does that mean you people lack manners & humanity because of your lack of religion? i think so too.
See, you are a bigger threat to humanity because of your concept of life, as an atheist you only live for this life, eat, shiit, make money, sex, have fun and die, the world is your playground - therefore no rules. You have no morals no conscious no nothing, your just animals in the food chain.. there is no such thing as the devil for you there is no such thing as evil which explains your lack of respect and compassion you have for people. The world would be a better place without people like you.

Atheism can be morally wrong. okay.
Islam is also morally wrong.

On the other hand,
Secularism/Atheism doesn't pushes itself as perfect unlike Islam.
It admits it can always improve its law & system.

Secular Societies through time try improve their ways; equality, justice, morality etc...
That's why they are more inclusive. Stopping the persecution of gays is one example.

Islam doesn't. It is stuck to the morality of the 7th century.
I don't see you being forced to pay an extra tax because your are a Muslim.
The Islamic doctrine are a cause of immorality.
Stoning adulterers, persecuting gay people, forcing segregation of the sexes & punishing those who disobey.


Your life isn't really any different. You just have a skewed view of reality.
What do you do that's special? Prostrate 5 times a day & follow a diet...?
Does that make you more Moral?

Remember you take your morality from a book written by desert dwellers.
Your morality isn't morality, it's actually just a set of rules from God.
You don't commit an act because its immoral but because God disallows it.
Do you give charity to help people or simply because God told you?

I do have morals. You don't. You have orders from God. The only reason you follow them is because you fear hell.


While, secular society develops morality through reason.
Secular reason has more morality than Islam.

No "Conscious" ? You think I am typing this from a coma?

lol the devil

Do you not enjoy living in the USA or Europe?
I rather live there than in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan etc...

[HalloIsBack]

my ezidi thread was also deleted

[Manzareh]

So you think we need God as an authority to have morals? So the only reason theists do any good stuff is because of the fear of God and not any moral reasons? Hey, your words, not mine.

My words, where did i say the ONLY reason theist do good is because of the fear of God. Where? See, when the hate don't work they start telling lies. Badlun has been caught lying here, Soldat another atheist use to lie in every post and exposed, ImAjEW used to lie about being a Jew amongst many other things, Damir repeatedly pulls words out of thin air and says they were said.. Your all liers because your all kafirs its second nature to you because you don't have religion, Islam teaches us to not lie, just one example why you are lost people.

[Damir9000]

My words, where did i say the ONLY reason theist do good is because of the fear of God. Where? See, when the hate don't work they start telling lies. Badlun has been caught lying here, Soldat another atheist use to lie in every post and exposed, ImAjEW used to lie about being a Jew amongst many other things, Damir repeatedly pulls words out of thin air and says they were said.. Your all liers because your all kafirs its second nature to you because you don't have religion, Islam teaches us to not lie, just one example why you are lost people.

"Damir repeatedly pulls words out of thin air and says they were said"
What do I pull from thin air?
I am a liar about what?