The Return of CENTCOM

[RevolutionThroughReason]

But I never changed the slightest bit.

I suggest you to read again what I have written on the thread posted on the hujra section.

As always, I still STRONGLY believe that those who collaborate with NATO deserve to die. Every single one of them.

I never supported suicide attacks or Talibans as a group in the past. I supported mujahideens, which is the same exact stance I have now.

Who cares about what you think ? You are completely nuts.

If you see Yasmeenaah as a balanced member, well I have bad news for her.

I saw your thread in Hujra, I don't agree with everything but it is closer to my viewpoint of being neither supportive of Taliban as a movement nor the NATO Imperialism. Of course back a few months ago you were arguing anyone against the Taliban is "Pro NATO" by default as if they're intrinsically dichotomies

You say you never changed, but you're wrong, I don't just argue to argue when it comes to the value the lives of my people. I may criticize, bash, and rant when it comes to the absurd cultural practices my people have, but their lives mean something to me. I know for a fact we argued on account that you saw it at your liberty to take the lives of my people for granted. If you shun suicide attacks now great, but I clearly recall you condoning them.

For the most part I agree; what I don't agree is the "Jews are responsible for everything wrong with this world" argument. Hating a specific group of people entirely isn't going to help us. Many of the first Muslims were originally JEWS, including the wife of Nabi(saw). Separate Zionist from Jew and you'll have more support.

[Aria2013]

Aria, how many taliban were killed or caught in Afghanistan/ Pashtun areas by ISAF, earlier by Enduring Freedom operation, since 11/2001? Could you give the number?

Yasmina, if you are concerned about the number of dead Taliban since 2001, perhaps that question should be posed to the Taliban. However, the question that should be asked is how many civilians died in Afghanistan at the hand of the Taliban? A UN annual report released earlier this year showed the Taliban were responsible for 81 percent of all civilian casualties last year alone with bombs or improvised explosive devices, the single biggest killer of civilians in Afghanistan. There were 2,754 civilians killed and 4,805 others were injured, all involved Taliban and other militant groups, and this is with a 12 percent drop in civilian deaths in 2012 to 2, 754, from 3, 131 in 2011. UNAMA also observed increasing threats to civilians in 2012 associated with the presence and re-emergence of armed groups. In addition civilians faced an increase in threats, intimidation and interference with their rights to education, health, justice and freedom of movement from anti-government elements. UNAMA also notes the numerous Taliban statements in 2012 to protect civilians, yet, the situation on the ground has not improved. The Taliban increased their direct attacks on civilians through targeted killings and continued to indiscriminately use IEDs including illegal pressure-plate victim-activated IEDs.

If interested, here is a link to the full report. http://unama.unmissions.org/LinkClic...language=en-US
http://unama.unmissions.org/
Aria2013
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[Aria2013]

Than Centcom condescendingly allowed to ask questions or what?

I am sorry, but I don't understand the question here. Could you please rephrase?

So I expect you to answer my yesterday question.

It's been answered.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Yasmina, if you are concerned about the number of dead Taliban since 2001, perhaps that question should be posed to the Taliban. However, the question that should be asked is how many civilians died in Afghanistan at the hand of the Taliban? A UN annual report released earlier this year showed the Taliban were responsible for 81 percent of all civilian casualties last year alone with bombs or improvised explosive devices, the single biggest killer of civilians in Afghanistan. There were 2,754 civilians killed and 4,805 others were injured, all involved Taliban and other militant groups, and this is with a 12 percent drop in civilian deaths in 2012 to 2, 754, from 3, 131 in 2011. UNAMA also observed increasing threats to civilians in 2012 associated with the presence and re-emergence of armed groups. In addition civilians faced an increase in threats, intimidation and interference with their rights to education, health, justice and freedom of movement from anti-government elements. UNAMA also notes the numerous Taliban statements in 2012 to protect civilians, yet, the situation on the ground has not improved. The Taliban increased their direct attacks on civilians through targeted killings and continued to indiscriminately use IEDs including illegal pressure-plate victim-activated IEDs.

If interested, here is a link to the full report. http://unama.unmissions.org/LinkClic...language=en-US
http://unama.unmissions.org/
Aria2013
DET-CENTCOM

you totally JUSt side stepped her question. This is not an exchange as you claimed you would do, this is a tangent and red herring by telling HER what she should and should not ask.


More of this type of responding and we will petition banning you and all other CENTCOM agents permanently.

NOW answer what she asked. Surely you have to have SOME figures of Taliban deaths, give us counted bodies according to direct U.S. military
reconnaissance.

Remember full transparency is crucial for CENTCOM's longevity on this forum. Consider this your last warning.

[Badlun]

Let him time and space. We may not bully , threaten and blackmail someone like this. How can one member issue last warning to another member. This is the sole right of admn to ban or allow some one.

If a person come here talking of his favorite ideology or mode of action and all other members are against that approach..will all the members vote against his membership!

This is open forum. Let the people express the way they want and they way they can. Yes following the rules and regulations of the forums.

Personally I think we must thank all devils and divines equally here who sacrifice their time and energy and participate in a forum like this. Otherwise who cares. Let engage a devil to make him divine and let learn from the already divines ones. Otherwise the devil will go somewhere else to spread the evil.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Because he is not answering questions; but rather diverting

we have every right to threaten members who represent Government Agencies aimed at Spreading Government Narratives; He has failed to answer the questions he was asked and instead SIDE STEPPED into another topic.

He is not just another forum member but is relaying the opinions of an official Organization; therefore he is obligated to respond accordingly more so than other forum members by standards of Universal Ethics.

If he cannot comply; then his organization has no right to be here. We have every right to threaten him on these grounds.

[randolph85]

Yasmina, if you are concerned about the number of dead Taliban since 2001, perhaps that question should be posed to the Taliban. However, the question that should be asked is how many civilians died in Afghanistan at the hand of the Taliban? A UN annual report released earlier this year showed the Taliban were responsible for 81 percent of all civilian casualties last year alone with bombs or improvised explosive devices, the single biggest killer of civilians in Afghanistan. There were 2,754 civilians killed and 4,805 others were injured, all involved Taliban and other militant groups, and this is with a 12 percent drop in civilian deaths in 2012 to 2, 754, from 3, 131 in 2011. UNAMA also observed increasing threats to civilians in 2012 associated with the presence and re-emergence of armed groups. In addition civilians faced an increase in threats, intimidation and interference with their rights to education, health, justice and freedom of movement from anti-government elements. UNAMA also notes the numerous Taliban statements in 2012 to protect civilians, yet, the situation on the ground has not improved. The Taliban increased their direct attacks on civilians through targeted killings and continued to indiscriminately use IEDs including illegal pressure-plate victim-activated IEDs.

If interested, here is a link to the full report. http://unama.unmissions.org/LinkClic...language=en-US
http://unama.unmissions.org/
Aria2013
DET-CENTCOM

So when taliban kill civilians its bad, when NATO kills civilians its an unfortunate mistake and they will "look into the matter."

well, that clears that up.

the question that YOU should be asking is who is occupying who with hundreds of thousands of soldiers and contractors that operate outside the laws of the "host" nation that they are supposedly guests of and even their own national laws.

[randolph85]

i bet aria gets teary eyed at those cheesy videos of soldiers returning home to surprise their family members.

[یاسمینه]

Yasmina, if you are concerned about the number of dead Taliban since 2001, perhaps that question should be posed to the Taliban. However, the question that should be asked is how many civilians died in Afghanistan at the hand of the Taliban? A UN annual report released earlier this year showed the Taliban were responsible for 81 percent of all civilian casualties last year alone with bombs or improvised explosive devices, the single biggest killer of civilians in Afghanistan. There were 2,754 civilians killed and 4,805 others were injured, all involved Taliban and other militant groups, and this is with a 12 percent drop in civilian deaths in 2012 to 2, 754, from 3, 131 in 2011. UNAMA also observed increasing threats to civilians in 2012 associated with the presence and re-emergence of armed groups. In addition civilians faced an increase in threats, intimidation and interference with their rights to education, health, justice and freedom of movement from anti-government elements. UNAMA also notes the numerous Taliban statements in 2012 to protect civilians, yet, the situation on the ground has not improved. The Taliban increased their direct attacks on civilians through targeted killings and continued to indiscriminately use IEDs including illegal pressure-plate victim-activated IEDs.

If interested, here is a link to the full report. http://unama.unmissions.org/LinkClic...language=en-US
http://unama.unmissions.org/
Aria2013
DET-CENTCOM

I have impression that you treat me as I was a half witted teeneager who doesn't understand what is going on around and who can't understand a simple sentence in English.
That's true that English is not my native language and that it is far from fluency, yet it still gives me opportunity to communicate with other people. So please tell me, where I did express my concerns about taliban? I read my other post twice and I am sorry, I can't find such words. Do you want to say that my English is that bad?
I asked you only about the number of taliban killed/injured in ISAF actions. Is it for you the same with concerns about them? Then I would advice you to take a class of English, and maybe formal logic, because you have problems with understanding simple sentences in English.

You referred me to UNAMA reports. I read them some time ago, along with the statement of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan. If you read them, so you know well that they have nothing to do with my question.
I wanted from you a simple answer. I will not lie if I write that it is commonly known that ISAF has a list with targets to kill. It is updated from time to time and I expected you to tell me how many people from the list were killed/ injured. Nothing more. I could accept the short answer saying that you can't do that because data is secret etc. But what you did, is simply unacceptable and make me thinking that you are rather a creature blindly executing Centcom comands, not a human being capable to a rational and logical discussion.

[Aria2013]

I have impression that you treat me as I was a half witted teeneager who doesn't understand what is going on around and who can't understand a simple sentence in English.
That's true that English is not my native language and that it is far from fluency, yet it still gives me opportunity to communicate with other people. So please tell me, where I did express my concerns about taliban? I read my other post twice and I am sorry, I can't find such words. Do you want to say that my English is that bad?
I asked you only about the number of taliban killed/injured in ISAF actions. Is it for you the same with concerns about them? Then I would advice you to take a class of English, and maybe formal logic, because you have problems with understanding simple sentences in English.

You referred me to UNAMA reports. I read them some time ago, along with the statement of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan. If you read them, so you know well that they have nothing to do with my question.
I wanted from you a simple answer. I will not lie if I write that it is commonly known that ISAF has a list with targets to kill. It is updated from time to time and I expected you to tell me how many people from the list were killed/ injured. Nothing more. I could accept the short answer saying that you can't do that because data is secret etc. But what you did, is simply unacceptable and make me thinking that you are rather a creature blindly executing Centcom comands, not a human being capable to a rational and logical discussion.

Yasmina, first of all, ISAF/CENTCOM does not hold a list with the number of dead insurgents. If you were talking about a list of “high targets”, for obvious reasons, we would not discuss it in this forum.

Secondly, Yasmina, I find your English perfectly fine. I simply asked you in a very polite way to clarify your question, so that I can better answer you. The perception of yourself in regards to your language abilities and aptitude is your own, not mine.

And finally, and this is addressed to all the users who have left threatening comments to CENTCOM members that we will or should be banned from this forum. Unless it is false advertising that this is an open forum for everyone to converse without discrimination, insults, or threats; certainly the forum admin can ban us. However, it will have no effect on us, but I find it unfortunate to see that Afghans, almost always, as the Afghan proverb says “Da Payeh khod tesha mezanem”, ruin things for themselves. We have been communicating with forum members in a respectful manner all along and if forum administrators feel we should be banned from this forum because some members do not agree with us or our establishment, then so be it. Otherwise, please, let’s refrain from insults, threats, and bullying and engage in real conversation.

Aria2013
DET-CENTCOM

[Al Hanif]

یاسمینه is there a way to contact you NOT via private messages ?

If yes, then please do inform me.

[randolph85]

Aria, since NATO countries refuse to hand over those accused of murdering afghans to the government or its people, would afghanistan be in the right if it were to invade and occupy NATO member states?

[randolph85]

Yasmina, first of all, ISAF/CENTCOM does not hold a list with the number of dead insurgents. If you were talking about a list of “high targets”, for obvious reasons, we would not discuss it in this forum.

Secondly, Yasmina, I find your English perfectly fine. I simply asked you in a very polite way to clarify your question, so that I can better answer you. The perception of yourself in regards to your language abilities and aptitude is your own, not mine.

And finally, and this is addressed to all the users who have left threatening comments to CENTCOM members that we will or should be banned from this forum. Unless it is false advertising that this is an open forum for everyone to converse without discrimination, insults, or threats; certainly the forum admin can ban us. However, it will have no effect on us, but I find it unfortunate to see that Afghans, almost always, as the Afghan proverb says “Da Payeh khod tesha mezanem”, ruin things for themselves. We have been communicating with forum members in a respectful manner all along and if forum administrators feel we should be banned from this forum because some members do not agree with us or our establishment, then so be it. Otherwise, please, let’s refrain from insults, threats, and bullying and engage in real conversation.

Aria2013
DET-CENTCOM

you will not be banned from the forum because you haven't broken any rules, you are free to enjoy your stay and become a shining example of hypocrisy for all to see.

all you have done is talk about dialogue without engaging in any. you and the likes of you have so far shown that you are no different than any others that want to sugarcoat the rape of afghanistan, be it wahabis, centcom, pakis, or others. the sooner you realize that your mission is as much poison to afghanistan as al qauda's is, the better off you will be. then hopefully you will realize that your loyalties are misplaced and that your large salary isn't worth the uncle tom'ery.

[یاسمینه]

I don't know Aria what is your background, but for sure you aren't a partner for any discussion, or, in other words... Do you know the saying, probably by M. Twain, starting with words never argue with a fool... ?

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Yasmina, first of all, ISAF/CENTCOM does not hold a list with the number of dead insurgents. If you were talking about a list of “high targets”, for obvious reasons, we would not discuss it in this forum.

Secondly, Yasmina, I find your English perfectly fine. I simply asked you in a very polite way to clarify your question, so that I can better answer you. The perception of yourself in regards to your language abilities and aptitude is your own, not mine.

And finally, and this is addressed to all the users who have left threatening comments to CENTCOM members that we will or should be banned from this forum. Unless it is false advertising that this is an open forum for everyone to converse without discrimination, insults, or threats; certainly the forum admin can ban us. However, it will have no effect on us, but I find it unfortunate to see that Afghans, almost always, as the Afghan proverb says “Da Payeh khod tesha mezanem”, ruin things for themselves. We have been communicating with forum members in a respectful manner all along and if forum administrators feel we should be banned from this forum because some members do not agree with us or our establishment, then so be it. Otherwise, please, let’s refrain from insults, threats, and bullying and engage in real conversation.

Aria2013
DET-CENTCOM

We're not advocating banning you JUST because you're CENTCOM ..we're threatening you because you said you'd be different and YET WENT AHEAD and did THE EXACT same thing past CENTCOM members did ...that is SKIP past questions and just PUMP OUT their narratives

Answer questions ASKED to you next time and you won't get this ill tretament

capice?

While Randolph85 is correct that you have not technically done anything "wrong", past CENTCOM members were banned for similar approaches that you have. And collectively as a forum we can petition to HAVE you banned and if enough people vote you out, the Admins will most likely comply. So i I highly recommend you change your approach here, do exactly what you claim you were going to do and that being DIALOGUE and ANSWERING questions. Pumping out the Ready-Made narrative of CENTCOM is NOT Dialogue and NO one here is falling for it. IN FACT you had sued almost the exact same verbatim rant that an OLDER CENTCOM agent used here by the name of "Noorzai Jahani"