Alexander wrote a letter to his mother :While in fight with Pukthuns in Arachosia ( now Kandahar ) and said " I am involved in the land of leonine ( Lion like) brave people, where every foot of the ground is like a well of steel,confronting my soldiers.[/][B]You have brought only one son into the world, but every one in this land can be called an Alexander
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Enough with this stupidity---No one can affirm such letter did really exist---Stop the Desi manipulation-Originally posted by talalsyed View PostAlexander wrote a letter to his mother :While in fight with Pukthuns in Arachosia ( now Kandahar ) and said " I am involved in the land of leonine ( Lion like) brave people, where every foot of the ground is like a well of steel,confronting my soldiers.[/][B]You have brought only one son into the world, but every one in this land can be called an Alexander
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Legitimacy aside, why is it desi manipulation?Originally posted by Toramana View PostEnough with this stupidity---No one can affirm such letter did really exist---Stop the Desi manipulation-Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.
A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai
For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."
The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!
-Ferishta, 1560–1620
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Because of such false idea of grandeur and paranoia Pashtuns are suffering and are one of the most dilapidated and downtrodden nation of the world. If Alexandar wrote it , it was to portray his own achievements that he defeated such a brave people and crossed through their lands to India.Originally posted by talalsyed View PostAlexander wrote a letter to his mother :While in fight with Pukthuns in Arachosia ( now Kandahar ) and said " I am involved in the land of leonine ( Lion like) brave people, where every foot of the ground is like a well of steel,confronting my soldiers.[/][B]You have brought only one son into the world, but every one in this land can be called an Alexander
Also let us take it far granted that Pashtuns were brave but at that time the standard was different. Now for a superpower like US or European Union or China rules of the game are totally different.
Where are these brave Pashtuns who even do not have their own homeland? Even in Pakistan they are divided into 4 units, Pashtunkhwa, Balochistan, Tribal areas and Nyazis in Punjab. Karachi is the city with the most population of Pashtuns. In Afghanistan they do not have real power. Their language is no where used in the true sense to be a language of media, business and international relations.
Let us focus on our pitfalls and come out of the nostalgia and be realist to be really a great nation in the comity of nations. No doubt Pashtuns do have some great distinguishing features but these are to be used in a positive way not in a destructive ways of drugs and terrorism.
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Pashtuns don't have a homeland? Malgara you are making us appear as if we are Palestinians.Originally posted by Badlun View PostBecause of such false idea of grandeur and paranoia Pashtuns are suffering and are one of the most dilapidated and downtrodden nation of the world. If Alexandar wrote it , it was to portray his own achievements that he defeated such a brave people and crossed through their lands to India.
Also let us take it far granted that Pashtuns were brave but at that time the standard was different. Now for a superpower like US or European Union or China rules of the game are totally different.
Where are these brave Pashtuns who even do not have their own homeland? Even in Pakistan they are divided into 4 units, Pashtunkhwa, Balochistan, Tribal areas and Nyazis in Punjab. Karachi is the city with the most population of Pashtuns. In Afghanistan they do not have real power. Their language is no where used in the true sense to be a language of media, business and international relations.
Let us focus on our pitfalls and come out of the nostalgia and be realist to be really a great nation in the comity of nations. No doubt Pashtuns do have some great distinguishing features but these are to be used in a positive way not in a destructive ways of drugs and terrorism.Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.
A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai
For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."
The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!
-Ferishta, 1560–1620
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I see Khushal. At times I wonder if most of the posters have actually visited the Pashtun watan.Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.
A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai
For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."
The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!
-Ferishta, 1560–1620
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What is the name of the homeland of Pashtuns?Originally posted by Admin Khan View PostPashtuns don't have a homeland? Malgara you are making us appear as if we are Palestinians.
If the answer is Afghanistan then Afghan according to the constitution of Afghanistan is not only Pashtun but any one living in Afghanistan who may be Tajik, Uzbek, Hazara etc. Population of Pashtuns in Afghanistan may be 50 to 60%.
If the answer is Paksitan then Pashtuns are only about 15% of the population of Pakistan and still divided in many units.
If the answer is Pashtunistan then it is just a word used in Internet forums or in some history books. Physically it does not exist anywhere.
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Afghanistan.Originally posted by Badlun View PostWhat is the name of the homeland of Pashtuns?
Using predicate logic, quantitative logic, boolean algebra, you name it and I can prove that you what you just said above is incredibly illogical. Just because Afghanistan is not 99.9999999999999999999999 percent Pashtun does NOT negate the fact that Afghanistan explicitly means the land of the Pashtuns, and that even that very language Pashto in which you converse in daily is known as Afghani according to many dictionaries. These are hard concrete facts. Afghanistan is about ~65 percent Pashtun according to WAK foundation. Today, the world is becoming dynamic, it's no longer static. We do not live in a world(except South Korea)where 99.9 percent is of the same ethnic group.If the answer is Afghanistan then Afghan according to the constitution of Afghanistan is not only Pashtun but any one living in Afghanistan who may be Tajik, Uzbek, Hazara etc. Population of Pashtuns in Afghanistan may be 50 to 60%.
Pakistan to Pashtuns is what Italy is for Pashtuns, both are foreign countries.If the answer is Paksitan then Pashtuns are only about 15% of the population of Pakistan and still divided in many units.
The answer is the Pashtun homeland, from Kandahar to Peshawar, from Kabul to Mingora.If the answer is Pashtunistan then it is just a word used in Internet forums or in some history books. Physically it does not exist anywhere.Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.
A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai
For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."
The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!
-Ferishta, 1560–1620
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Lol where are you getting your satistics from? Im pretty sure the population of pashtuns is much higher than 60% in afghanistan.Originally posted by Badlun View PostWhat is the name of the homeland of Pashtuns?
If the answer is Afghanistan then Afghan according to the constitution of Afghanistan is not only Pashtun but any one living in Afghanistan who may be Tajik, Uzbek, Hazara etc. Population of Pashtuns in Afghanistan may be 50 to 60%.
If the answer is Paksitan then Pashtuns are only about 15% of the population of Pakistan and still divided in many units.
If the answer is Pashtunistan then it is just a word used in Internet forums or in some history books. Physically it does not exist anywhere."Revenge is a dish best served cold".
-Old Pashtun proverb

"My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"
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