Talk on Moderation

[reformomatic]

Dear all,

Just recently, in the latest episode of bans, and according to Tor_Khan's thread, it appears a new member Al-Hanif has been banned. Yes, he did unfortunately make some racist comments, but when you look into the context of why he did, it becomes apparent that he did so in retaliation. Toramana has not been banned for the same exact violation of racism.

Toramana had previously made several unchecked racist comments against Arabs (an apparent front for hatred against Islam), yet the moderation of this forum did not take any action. It appears that action was only taken in a very selective manner when Al-Hanif, unfortunately did the same back. Read the first posts here http://www.pashtunforums.com/politic...eel-usa-21605/

When an Admin or moderator has double standards in regards to enforcing rules, then from an academic and neutral perspective, they no longer ought to be permitted to moderate this forum.


Toramana has not been banned, Al-Hanif has. For a moderator to then claim that no one reported Toramana's posts is false since the whole thread is a back and forth between Toramana and Al-Hanif. The fact that such a moderator will be alert at some posts but not at others warrants this forum to cast light on whether the moderator who banned Hanif is fit to moderate this forum anymore.


Having said all this, this is an objection that needs to be raised. When a moderator is selective in applying the rules, banning Al-Hanif for a violation, but not Toramana for the same violation, a clear bias has been shown. As such, whether the moderator is capable to moderate this forum fairly is in question.

Lets also cast light on the simple fact that members such as Toramana are in no way a reflection of Pashtuns at all. In the southern Pashtun strongholds of Kandahar, Islam and pashto preceded everything. Al-Hanif would be more at home there then the likes of characters like Toramana. This is the truth, and truth hurts.

At the end, I think it best that there be a serious discussion about the moderation and administration of this forum. We need fair moderators, and ones who have broken the rules of moderating without bias can no longer moderate.

Whichever moderator did this needs to step down. I am not sure which moderator it is, but you have shown yourself to be incapable of moderating this forum. I would urge the forum moderators and Administrators to make a collective decision in regards to this

If you have bias, then step down, and participate as others, but you can not moderate or Administer this forum.


Kind Regards

[IamDZJ]

lol, kind regards..

[gomal]

yes!!! toramakha kaffir is very racist!

[Bengal_Tiger]

This is my post on another thread:

This whole thread is really unfair, I unblocked liar, racist and troublemaker Toramana to read this as a thread was opened about Tor_Khan's unfair moderating.

Tor_Khan is a slimey,smarmy, two faced Munafiq Pakistani.

Toramana provokes Al-Hanif who is a Berber (Berbers have always had and had issues with Arab supremacism) who can't take it anymore and snaps and reverts to sarcastic posts about Arab supremacism

Toramana, the lying white-wannabe Canadian Kafir dog who wants to kill Pashtuns baits, and baits and baits and provokes like he has been doing to me and Al-Hanif gets banned.

Tor_Khan is a disgusting, dirty, lowlife Paki like that other nasty Paki ****bag Mokadaar from Chaikhaana.

Tor_Khan even insulted my family in one thread.

Anyway Allah has punished Mokadaar (last I heard this dog was severely sick, and his stupid website has been removed).

Tor_Khan, a Munafiq Pakistani, ban me!!

Come on you slimey two-faced dhaal khor Pakistani!

[Bengal_Tiger]

Come on Pakistani boy Dhal_Khor Khan.

Come on!

Come on and ban me, you lying slimey two-faced hypocrite.

I don't give a f*** about you and your forum.

Your buddy Mok-Gaddar that American Pakistani ****bag got what he deserved.

Reformatic is absolutely right, you are a complete and utter disgrace, you slimey, smarmy, sarcastic, hypocrite Pakistani.

Toramana the racist Kafir was provoking and provoking and insulting, and gets away with murder.

This is a disgrace, come on...little slimey Pakistani pu**y...come and press that little button to ban me.

[IamDZJ]

[Talal]

lol some of you ( whats the right word..ajoobay ? ) i would really like to meet in real life

[gomal]

Lol ajoobay!!!

[Toramana]

Yara da Bengali kho dair ghat janjali dai ... He seems to be an extremely complicated personility ---kind of impulsive as well...Actually, he doesn't remember it but it started when he and graveyard posted a thread in which he called us non-Pashtuns---and Al-Hanif and Al-Arab joined the chorus.

Now I wanted to give these two new non-Pashtun members some tough time for how they come and make us pariah on our forum of which we are members since its inception. So it got this ugly. But anyhow, the moderators can restore Al-Hanif and Al-Arabs membership. I'll leave.

[al-arab]

I have never been racist towards anybody, nor have I called you anything. The only think you have done towards me is called me camel again and again without any reason. That is way you forced Al-Hanafi temper to boil and also Bengali-Tiger. You escaped so stop blaming others for the same you have done.

I did not join this forum just to protect myself from racist people like you but you have forced me to do it. Instead of leaving you should stop your un-Islamic behaviour and read the Holy Quran.

I have never been banned nor have I got any message from any moderator because there have been no reason for this.

[Toramana]

Hahahaaa, Afrasiab Khattak says when a decoit/land grabber breaks into someone's house/property, the first thing he does is to look for the owner of the house/property and kill him/her. That is necessary because the owner is the person laying claim to and defending the property. Same the Islamists also do who attack Pashtun nationalists (because Pashtun nationalists lay claim to the ownership of Pashtun land) and try to trvailise Pashtun Culture and identity.

Al-Qaueda, the Arab terrorist organization and other e.g. Central Asian terrorists have killed hundreds of tribal Malkis the owners of FATA to eliminate the real oners of that land and to be able to grab it.

[al-arab]

Hahahaaa, Afrasiab Khattak says when a decoit/land grabber breaks into someone's house/property, the first thing he does is to look for the owner of the house/property and kill him/her. That is necessary because the owner is the person laying claim to and defending the property. Same the Islamists also do who attack Pashtun nationalists (because Pashtun nationalists lay claim to the ownership of Pashtun land) and try to trvailise Pashtun Culture and identity.

Al-Qaueda, the Arab terrorist organization and other e.g. Central Asian terrorists have killed hundreds of tribal Malkis the owners of FATA to eliminate the real oners of that land and to be able to grab it.

I will not discuss this with you again.

But let me ask you something else. What has Arabs done to you?

Do you hate all Arabs? Do you hate Saudis more than Iraqis? Morrocans more than Omanis?

Why do you target every Arab on this forum or Pashtun who don't have a problem with Arab?

[Levanaye Zalmaye]

Toramana is an educated and well-informed Pashtun member of these forums. He has always been an advocate of peace by speaking out against all the factors that have turned the Pashtun homeland into a perpetual warzone.

On the other hand, Hanif bin Jamaal, Arab abu Jamaal and others here associated with them openly support global terrorism, call for murder and violence, glorify acts of terrorism, refer to persons such as Osama bin Laden, the murderer and butcher of Pashtuns, Muslims, Americans, Africans, etc as their heroes and since their hatred and frustration are so strong, they cannot even refrain from insulting other members directly by name-calling and what not.

One of the many aims of Pashtun forums is to show the world that the global Pashtun community does not comprise of lunatic anarchists and berserk fanatics but is intellectual and rational in nature. The internet is full of places where these marginalized Arab immigrants (Hanif, unknownprince, Arab, etc) can get help instead of turning into terrorist-recruiters or members of terrorist sleeper cells. Here at Pashtun forums, at least in my opinion, calling for mass-murder is not welcome.

[Talal]

hey i heard they were gonna cancel simpsons..has there been a season premiere yet ?

[al-arab]

Toramana is an educated and well-informed Pashtun member of these forums. He has always been an advocate of peace by speaking out against all the factors that have turned the Pashtun homeland into a perpetual warzone.

On the other hand, Hanif bin Jamaal, Arab abu Jamaal and others here associated with them openly support global terrorism, call for murder and violence, glorify acts of terrorism, refer to persons such as Osama bin Laden, the murderer and butcher of Pashtuns, Muslims, Americans, Africans, etc as their heroes and since their hatred and frustration are so strong, they cannot even refrain from insulting other members directly by name-calling and what not.

One of the many aims of Pashtun forums is to show the world that the global Pashtun community does not comprise of lunatic anarchists and berserk fanatics but is intellectual and rational in nature. The internet is full of places where these marginalized Arab immigrants (Hanif, unknownprince, Arab, etc) can get help instead of turning into terrorist-recruiters or members of terrorist sleeper cells. Here at Pashtun forums, at least in my opinion, calling for mass-murder is not welcome.

Are you refering to me? I have never called for massmurder nor have I seen Al-Hanafi do that. I am also no immigrant.

And why do you have Lenin as a avatar? A kafir and murderer of millions of people? Communism is the most deadly ideology and I have seen a few on this forum who support it. Have you forgot Soviets?

Very un-Islamic but if you are not a Muslim then you are excussed. But you could chose better policy than communism in my opinion.