What constitutes a Pashtun?

[roadrunner]

true? i always felt an affinity with roadie

Don't you think you're a bit old for me, you smiling hippy?

[khushal]

Western society is highly patriarchal. It always has been, and still is. Women do have extra rights in the highly patriarchal society, but it's still a patriarchal society. The concept of the traditional family still exists and though there are variations of it, in many places in the west, them man is still seen as head of the household even though it may not be politically correct to acknowledge such.

In the west you have women as heads of state, presidents of large corporations, judging in the highest courts. Running households. during divorce, gets most of the assets and the children. The traditional family in the west is to have kids without marriage, to have gay couples adopt children, visiting the sperm bank for insemination, hiring a surrogate mother, etc..... thats patriachy
OK whatever you say.

[roadrunner]

In the west you have women as heads of state, presidents of large corporations, judging in the highest courts.

In the East you have that too, Mahatma. Benazir Bhutto, Head of State Bank of Pakistan. BUT Pakistan is still a patriarchal society. Token women here and there do not eliminate the patriarchy. It is embedded all over.

Running households. during divorce, gets most of the assets and the children.

That's socialism. In fact if women were earning money, men would get half of their money. It has nothing to do with gender though.

The traditional family in the west is to have kids without marriage, to have gay couples adopt children, visiting the sperm bank for insemination, hiring a surrogate mother, etc..... thats patriachy
OK whatever you say.

lol. That's a blinkered view, Mahatma. Almost as blinkered as the Westerners that think Muslims beat their wives. Most western folk get married and live in a traditional family at least once. It's not a tradition that doesn't exist anymore. It's a carryover of the patriarchal tradition.


Do you have any more to add on the Pashtun Y chromosome by the way?

[khushal]

In the East you have that too, Mahatma. Benazir Bhutto, Head of State Bank of Pakistan. BUT Pakistan is still a patriarchal society. Token women here and there do not eliminate the patriarchy. It is embedded all over.

Pakistan's elites have moved from patriachy also. They are westernized people who are supposed to bring values to their ancestorial countries but instead are looting its resources.

That's socialism. In fact if women were earning money, men would get half of their money. It has nothing to do with gender though.

Ofcourse, patiarchy is a social system you bafoon. It does not matter what men would get in a divorce. Patriachy has more to do with the role of women in society.

lol. That's a blinkered view, Mahatma. Almost as blinkered as the Westerners that think Muslims beat their wives. Most western folk get married and live in a traditional family at least once. It's not a tradition that doesn't exist anymore. It's a carryover of the patriarchal tradition.

So 85% of children living in a divorced household is traditional to you. Are you acting stupid or is it not an act?

Do you have any more to add on the Pashtun Y chromosome by the way?

I have already answered this question, I cant keep answering it over and over again just because you ask it over and aver again as proof of your insanity.

[roadrunner]

Pakistan's elites have moved from patriachy also. They are westernized people who are supposed to bring values to their ancestorial countries but instead are looting its resources.

Pakistan is not a patriarchal society? LOL

Ofcourse, patiarchy is a social system you bafoon. It does not matter what men would get in a divorce. Patriachy has more to do with the role of women in society.

This is so stupid it doesnt make any sense.

Patriarchy can exist in a pure socialist or complete capitalist society. Patriarchy is only to do with the position of men in authority. The role of women comes from that.

So 85% of children living in a divorced household is traditional to you. Are you acting stupid or is it not an act?

Isn't that a dum example? If they live in a family household, then they live in a traditional family household. Whether they are divorced or not makes no difference surely?

I have already answered this question, I cant keep answering it over and over again just because you ask it over and aver again as proof of your insanity.

You've not answered it though, have you Gandhi? What is the Pashtun Y chromosome that identifies Pashtuns uniquely? Since you can't answer it, I'll assume all those posts where you said you could identify a Pashtun by his Y chromosome were wrong.

[khushal]

Pakistan is not a patriarchal society? LOL

I am talking about the elites you bafoon. try to focus.

This is so stupid it doesnt make any sense.

Patriarchy can exist in a pure socialist or complete capitalist society. Patriarchy is only to do with the position of men in authority. The role of women comes from that.

socialism and capitalism are economic system. Patriachy is not an economic system. your burying yourself in stupidity deeper and deeper.

Isn't that a dum example? If they live in a family household, then they live in a traditional family household. Whether they are divorced or not makes no difference surely?

First learn how to spell DUMB, then you may call others "DUM."

children living in a single parent household is by no means traditional. but OK whatever you say, you talk as though you are some kind a crackhead.

[roadrunner]

I am talking about the elites you bafoon. try to focus.

Dear Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi,

How am i supposed to know you're talking about the elites when you mentioned Pakistani society only?

Yours sincerely,
RoadRunner.

The Pakistani "elite" are very patriarchal. Women might work, but they form part of the traditional family with the man in the position of authority. Or do you know something that i do not?

socialism and capitalism are economic system. Patriachy is not an economic system. your burying yourself in stupidity deeper and deeper.

That might explain why the Patriarchy can exist in both Socialist and Capitalist societies, genius.

However you gave an example of Socialism to illustrate that western society was not patriarchal (the women getting money after divorce). That was an economic example, genius which is why I said that's Socialism (which also is an economic example).

First learn how to spell DUMB, then you may call others "DUM."

children living in a single parent household is by no means traditional. but OK whatever you say, you talk as though you are some kind a crackhead.

Where's your statistic that 82% of western children live in single parent households?

While you look for it, what is the Pashtun Y chromosome? (for the 6th time of asking).

[khushal]

your an idiot. you cant focus on what people are saying and you have no idea how to debate.

Are you drunk?

[IamDZJ]

[khushal]

Islam ka ghwut bretuna neesh tha,

I never heard of that.

[roadrunner]

your an idiot. you cant focus on what people are saying and you have no idea how to debate.

Are you drunk?

It is difficult to debate with you I must admit, mahatma. I've asked you 6 times for the identity of the Pashtun Y chromosome that unqiuely identifies Pashtuns genetically.

So far, you've not responded. Is that debate?

[roadrunner]

Impressive beard growth. It could be one of the markers in answer to the thread.

[khushal]

Impressive beard growth. It could be one of the markers in answer to the thread.

This is how stupid you are, you dont even know the difference between the beard and the mustache

[JattApache]

- speak pashto
- genetically a pashtun
- ancestors from afghanistan / khyber pakhtunkhwa area
- be a good muslim
- pashtunwali, pashtun culture