Ahmad Zahir

[afghan]

You can ask his niece http://www.myspace.com/rabiazahir , his uncle Dr Qayum speak Dari with heavy pashto accent, dr Qayum zahir wife is American lady and speak fluent pashto. Ahmad zahir belongs to a well know afghan family, his father was priminster, his uncle interior Minster, his other uncle governor. If you could get the copy of Who is who in Afghanistan by Adamic(writen in 60s).

grana wrora pashtun has nothing against him of speaking pashto or dari, he did compose many songs in pashto, most of the rahim ghamzadah old songs were composed by ahmad zahir, ahmad zahir does have few songs in pashto. just visit a parsiwans forums you will see yourself all those weird posts. there are many pashtun singers who dont have many pashto songs, they preffered to sing in dari. if you are related to him you must know his tribe, if you dont mind sharing with us.

[Nick]

grana wrora pashtun has nothing against him of speaking pashto or dari, he did compose many songs in pashto, most of the rahim ghamzadah old songs were composed by ahmad zahir, ahmad zahir does have few songs in pashto. just visit a parsiwans forums you will see yourself all those weird posts. there are many pashtun singers who dont have many pashto songs, they preffered to sing in dari. if you are related to him you must know his tribe, if you dont mind sharing with us.

I personally don't know. I was once told that Abdul Zahir Kakar was recorded but, some say they were Safi, since these tribes are notorious for speaking only Pashtu, I am very sure Ahmad Zahir could be summed as Pashtun, as this article points out "He also reflects an Afghanistan that was far less ethnically polarized than it is today. An ethnic Pashtun who sang mostly in Dari, he won fans in all ethnic groups." NY times at Kabul Journal - The Afghan Elvis 'Lives' 24 Years After His Death - NYTimes.com, also according to Nabel Miskinyar owner of Ariana Television also considered Zahir to be a Pashtun from both sides of his Parents. Therefore leaving no other choice other than being Pashtun, besides back in old days I mean his father Dr. Abdul Zahir Khan born in 1910 in laghaman was grew up in Kabul, and since Kabulis are dominated Dari speakers, he too was influenced as to considered "Farsiwan", as I mention above many Pashtu speaking willing accepted Dari, and besides back then Languages were not important, and that majority of people who in high positions were all considered themselves to be Afghan, and just after creation of Pakistan.
Afghan nationalism on rise as well as giving birth to Pashtun nationalism gain its fame and since then high officials in the Afghan government was under pressure in not doing enough in promoting "Pashtu" Which is Why Duad kicked out drunk Zahir Shah (Sorry guys I hate him) and placed himself, he went on further trying to confront the realities that Pakistan was strong and that natives of Afghanistan are majority Dari in tongue and 47% pashtu by Language won't help his argument, therefore he further supported Pashtu language. He was first King Ever who actually did something that Afghan rulers never did for the past 1000 years, all of them supported "Dari" and therefore Pashtuns can thank him for the next 1000 years. He was by all means the father of Pashtunization, because he believed that Language was very important. This is a fact and you should thank Daud who also changed the Education system, specially the number of Books printed in Pashtu was all during his time.

Anyways Afghan this was my point in my post number 28, that Pashtu speakers as well as Toramana as being Pashtu speaker/Pashtun was more interested in his Last name, or some sort of indication of being Pashtun, otherwise you people reject others. This is wrong, generalizing people based on languages, is wrong.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

He was a non-Pashtun linguistically and culturally (didn't speak Pashto). In Afghanistan, a number of non-Pashtuns claimed Pashtun descent to seek ethnic affinity with the ruling royal family. Babrak Karmal was another famous personality that even though was a Tajak but claimed to be a Pashtun to win favor of the Pashtun majority.

He was a pashtun, and from what I know from a very well known Pashtun family (his father was ex-PM of Afghanistan). I doubt he was anti-pashtun, and there is no proof for it saiba. Plus, it is beside the point, he was a famous and a talented musician.

[Emal_khan]

Nick
I personally don't know. I was once told that Abdul Zahir Kakar was recorded but, some say they were Safi, since these tribes are notorious for speaking only Pashtu, I am very sure Ahmad Zahir could be summed as Pashtun, as this article points out [/QUOTE]
As far as I know he was the grandson of abdul qader Ibrahim-khil. in the omarzai area of laghman the safis/sapis are divided into 3 sub- groups.

1. In khair abad, paya khil, yasin khil, tur khil and ayaz
2.Ado khil
3. Ibrahimkhil

[Da_Kunar_Ghro]

His best songs are Chashmak bezan setara, Khoda bowat yaaret and Laili jaan.

[Laila]

His best songs are Chashmak bezan setara, Khoda bowat yaaret and Laili jaan.

These are like some of his all time best ones
And Ashiq Shoda Ay dil
Larsha Ningarhar
Ta Ba Jafayat Hosham
Hurani kharabat
Ay Dil
Dostet Daram



many,many more...i love all of his songs i wish i could go back in time, and go to all of his concerts

[Feroza_Banu]

Everytime i come to this thread i get really romantic... he sang one of the best romantic songs of all times!

Badwayet konum... oh badwayet konum...
awet garem basha... naanet hama yakh!

[Feroza_Banu]

i can't find the lyrics of that song... but here is one of my favorite... for you , Jasmine

Emshab ba yade roye to ghawgha konam ghawghaa konam
Dil ra ba dast e gham deham, bas shikwa az dunya konam

Emshab ba yade ishqe to, baa ashke khod tanha shawam
Anqadar zaari haa konam, taa sail e khoon bar paa konam

Khandi ba ishqe paak e man, goyee ke man deewana am
Are man e deewana khob, ba saghar e meena konam

Emshab ba yade roye to ghawgha konam ghawghaa konam
Dil ra ba dast e gham deham, bas shikwa az dunya konam

[Laila]

Everytime i come to this thread i get really romantic... he sang one of the best romantic songs of all times!

Badwayet konum... oh badwayet konum...
awet garem basha... naanet hama yakh!

LOL! same here and i actually sing it too


Baz amadi..... aye janeman..... janan feda.... jan e tu

[Laila]

He truly was the King of Afghanistan, our very own Elvis....i have photos of him that shows so much similarities between the two Kings.

[Nick]

Nick
I personally don't know. I was once told that Abdul Zahir Kakar was recorded but, some say they were Safi, since these tribes are notorious for speaking only Pashtu, I am very sure Ahmad Zahir could be summed as Pashtun, as this article points out

As far as I know he was the grandson of abdul qader Ibrahim-khil. in the omarzai area of laghman the safis/sapis are divided into 3 sub- groups.

1. In khair abad, paya khil, yasin khil, tur khil and ayaz
2.Ado khil
3. Ibrahimkhil

Well I don't know as I said I was told Safi (Sapy), and others say Kakar so I guess he was Safi.

Thanks Anyways but it really doesn't matter brothers in here asked interested more in his "tribal root" which is fare since majority of Pashtuns brother from Pakistan are brain washed on who is who.

[Laila]

Can you share the photos?

Sure, found them on the net

[Laila]

That is so shocking Laila. did he do that on purpose?

LOL i know right....did he do that on purpose? hmmm i dont know. My mom told me he had the 'Elvis' look...thick hair, black, so many features that matched. No one will ever know now.....

but then remember, during the 60's and 70's the thick black hair with sideburns was in style

[Laila]

Yes but that is a bit too similar.

LOL i totally agree, let me see if i can find more pictures

[Laila]

Crazy look-a-like right


i have over hundreds and hundreds of Ahmad Zahir songs. One of these days i will make videos for them. I have many of his songs that are not posted on youtube or any other online sites