History of Kandahar

[torkham]

Thats outside Afghanistan

Some people see the borders, the borders taught to them(british indians) by the brits (the masters of british indians).

[ډګروال]

and you fail at being a human.....

you failed.

[mayan]

Am Pakistani and i Found this history in net books .. so i dont know what is reality

[Apollyon]

Kandahar existed before Alexander the great. The name is derived from Alexander of Arachosia not Ghandahar which was Peshawar.

THE HOME OF THE ARYANS

Michael Witzel,
HarvardUniversity

..He locates it in the Tedzhen area, especially on its confluent, the Kashaf Rud, the "Tortoise River" (1984: 18, 25; cf. MONCHI-ZADEH 1975: 160). GNOLI (1967,1980) had placed it, as referred to above, in the Hilmend area of Arachosia/Sistan.

The Vīdẽvdåδ list obviously was composed or redacted by
someone who regarded Afghanistan and the lands surrounding it as the home of
all Aryans (airiia), that is of all (eastern) Iranians, with Airiianəm Vaẽjah as their
center. Similarly, the list of mountains in Yt. 19.1-6 seems to indicate, quite
differently from the Vīdẽvdåδ list, a clockwise arrangement, a pradakia scheme
that cannot be dealt with here.105
However, for several parts of the Avestan texts, the geographical center is
a much more geographically limited, a local one. This is clearly seen in Yt. 19.66-
67 which describes the "holy land" of Arachosia,106 with Lake Kąsaoiia
(Hamum) and the Haẽtumant (Hilmend) as the center.

http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~witzel/AryanHome.pdf

Strabos map

[ډګروال]

Kandahar existed before Alexander the great. The name is derived from Alexander of Arachosia not Ghandahar which was Peshawar.

THE HOME OF THE ARYANS

Michael Witzel,
HarvardUniversity

..He locates it in the Tedzhen area, especially on its confluent, the Kashaf Rud, the "Tortoise River" (1984: 18, 25; cf. MONCHI-ZADEH 1975: 160). GNOLI (1967,1980) had placed it, as referred to above, in the Hilmend area of Arachosia/Sistan.

The Vīdẽvdåδ list obviously was composed or redacted by
someone who regarded Afghanistan and the lands surrounding it as the home of
all Aryans (airiia), that is of all (eastern) Iranians, with Airiianəm Vaẽjah as their
center. Similarly, the list of mountains in Yt. 19.1-6 seems to indicate, quite
differently from the Vīdẽvdåδ list, a clockwise arrangement, a pradakia scheme
that cannot be dealt with here.105
However, for several parts of the Avestan texts, the geographical center is
a much more geographically limited, a local one. This is clearly seen in Yt. 19.66-
67 which describes the "holy land" of Arachosia,106 with Lake Kąsaoiia
(Hamum) and the Haẽtumant (Hilmend) as the center.

http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~witzel/AryanHome.pdf

Strabos map

this is untrue and biased.
this is typical western view point where they want to connect everything to their history and heritage.

[Apollyon]

this is untrue and biased.
this is typical western view point where they want to connect everything to their history and heritage.

I am assuming your not Afghan. The study is supported by scholars of Literature, Anthropology "Afghans have no refuted any of the above mention".

Circe Invidosa


Afghanistan is a land-race country within that context, its people, history, geographic center of the world, wildlife all rooted in ancient tradition and rich culture. The aim of a non-Afghan's primary from its neighbors is to deny the history of Afghanistan out of Envy. Envy is best defined as a resentful emotion that "occurs when a person lacks anther's (perceived) superior quality, achievement or possession and wishes that the other lacked it.

Latin Invidia to look upon with evil eye.

Aristotle (in Rhetoric) defined envy (φθόνος phthonos) "as the pain caused by the good fortune of others"

From Alexander the Great to the Taliban, Kandahar has been a city of great historical and strategic importance for many centuries- its name derived from Alexander’s eastern name “Sikander’ or “Iskander.” Sadly today, the once great city stands devastated by years of war. Damage caused by mines and the shelling of irrigation systems has badly affected local agricultural capacity..

..The Kandahar area is rich in ancient history. About 40 miles from Kandahar is the mound of Mundigak representing thirteen succeeding civilizations, the earliest being tentatively dated about 5,000 B.C. Alexander the Great founded Alexandria of Arachosia in the region, but its exact location is still a mystery although the Zol Shar or ancient city to the southwest of Kandahar is recognized as a possible site.

During the 16th and 17 th centuries, the area was repeatedly fought over by the Saffavid Empire of Persia and the Moghul Empire of India. Ironically, it was the independence-minded Afghans of Kandahar, first under the leadership of Mir Wais Hotak and later of Ahmad Shah Durrani, which led to the decline of both empires and annexed much of their territories to the young Afghan kingdom in the 18 th Century.
Kandahar was once one of the largest fruit producing areas in Afghanistan. Modern processing and canning factories were located here, and a large part of the country’s foreign exchange-earning fruit exports originated here. Its position half way between Kabul and Herat on the southern highway also made it a favorite overnight stop for travelers.

http://www.afghanembassy.com.pl/cms/en/afghanistan/kandahar

[ډګروال]

I am assuming your not Afghan. The study is supported by scholars of Literature, Anthropology "Afghans have no refuted any of the above mention".

your assumption is as false as this forged version of histoy. there also exists among Afghans the bias to make themselves connected to europeans and whites.

Circe Invidosa


Afghanistan is a land-race country within that context, its people, history, geographic center of the world, wildlife all rooted in ancient tradition and rich culture. The aim of a non-Afghan's primary from its neighbors is to deny the history of Afghanistan out of Envy. Envy is best defined as a resentful emotion that "occurs when a person lacks anther's

what is a land race country? and what is with the irrelevant gibberish?
(perceived) superior quality, achievement or possession and wishes that the other lacked it.

irrelevant to the topic,we dont have to be attached to alexander or lie that kandahar means alexandria to be in a good position


Latin Invidia to look upon with evil eye.

Aristotle (in Rhetoric) defined envy (φθόνος phthonos) "as the pain caused by the good fortune of others"

From Alexander the Great to the Taliban, Kandahar has been a city of great historical and strategic importance for many centuries- its name derived from Alexander’s eastern name “Sikander’ or “Iskander.” Sadly today, the once great city stands devastated by years of war. Damage caused by mines and the shelling of irrigation systems has badly affected local agricultural capacity..

exactly my point,these guys think Afghan history or its civilisation started with alexi,its name is not derived from sikandar,that is a forgery and even in kabul it is known that the ancient name of kandahar was gandahar,some even make jokes about it as ganda in farsi means rotten.the once great city?oh i see meaning the once great greek city of alexandria.LOL

..The Kandahar area is rich in ancient history. About 40 miles from Kandahar is the mound of Mundigak representing thirteen succeeding civilizations, the earliest being tentatively dated about 5,000 B.C. Alexander the Great founded Alexandria of Arachosia in the region, but its exact location is still a mystery although the Zol Shar or ancient city to the southwest of Kandahar is recognized as a possible site.

far from facts.
and even in those times alexi and his gang were propagandists like today and they exagerate and make it look like the natives want their "democracy"

During the 16th and 17 th centuries, the area was repeatedly fought over by the Saffavid Empire of Persia and the Moghul Empire of India. Ironically, it was the independence-minded Afghans of Kandahar, first under the leadership of Mir Wais Hotak and later of Ahmad Shah Durrani, which led to the decline of both empires and annexed much of their territories to the young Afghan kingdom in the 18 th Century.

this part is true

Kandahar was once one of the largest fruit producing areas in Afghanistan. Modern processing and canning factories were located here, and a large part of the country’s foreign exchange-earning fruit exports originated here. Its position half way between Kabul and Herat on the southern highway also made it a favorite overnight stop for travelers.

http://www.afghanembassy.com.pl/cms/en/afghanistan/kandahar

Afghan history is for much unknown ,thats why all these people are trying to forge and try to cover the great afghan civilisation.
its typical how these guys always look at it from arian and western perspective while ignoring the natives.

btw alexander wasnt great.

[Apollyon]

Afghan history is for much unknown ,thats why all these people are trying to forge and try to cover the great afghan civilisation.
its typical how these guys always look at it from arian and western perspective while ignoring the natives.

btw alexander wasnt great.

Landrace in context can refer to a person, place or thing..well preserved like coral and pearls and every scavenger trying to capitalise (draw advantages from) of it.

First mention of the area in "Western" history if you bothered to read my first post, I stated Kandahar is much older than Alexander the greats..great find.
Western History starts with Greek-Macedonian literature, the timing of this correlates with Ariana-Afghanistan-Persia and Europe as we knew it to be Greek-Roman, the two pearls of the world Persia and Greco-Roman civilization.

Alexander the great is mentioned in the old testament book of Danial he-goat and Koran "Dhul Qarnain" two horned one, the helmet given to him by Egyptians...where ever he went he conquered as the Koran narrates, who built the wall of Ajoj and Majoj ..Bible Gog Magog.

Danian 8:20 The two-horned ram that you saw represents the kings of Media and Persia

Koran The Cave
18:84 Verily We established his power on earth, and We gave him the ways and the means to all ends...

18:95 He said: "(The power) in which my Lord has established me is better (than tribute): help me therefore with strength (and labour): I will erect a strong barrier between you and them:

12th century map by the Muslim scholar Al-Idrisi (South up). "Yajooj" and "Majooj" (Gog and Magog) appear in Arabic script on the bottom-left edge of the Eurasian landmass


Afghanistan in its creation was-is a nation white people by Dna, history, linguistics and culture. Afghanistan resides on Eurasian plate georgraphi center of the world, not middle east, India or China.

BTW Alexander was great he forced humans to enter humanity grated by our Lord.

[Kushan Prince]

Danian 8:20 The two-horned ram that you saw represents the kings of Media and Persia


Alexander is not mentioned in the Quran or is the "two horned one". The two horned one was mentioned as a believer in god while Alexander was a pagan.

[Apollyon]

Danian 8:20 The two-horned ram that you saw represents the kings of Media and Persia


Alexander is not mentioned in the Quran or is the "two horned one". The two horned one was mentioned as a believer in god while Alexander was a pagan.

Are you an expert in Arabic, Hebrew or Macedonian language?

Macedonians and Christians will refute this, there is no mention of Alexander being a male lover in Greek history or his life style as portrait by Oliver Stone, btw his son Converted to Islam and remaking Alexanders movie in Iran.


Stone referred to Iran as one of Asia's major filmmaking centers saying that he “would like to introduce Persian culture and civilization to the West.”
The 27-year-old filmmaker is a graduate of history from Princeton University and has collaborated on many of his father's projects such as the 2004 Alexander. He has also directed a handful of documentaries.
.."The conversion to Islam is not abandoning Christianity or Judaism, which I was born with," the 27-year-old documentary filmmaker, whose father is half-Jewish and mother Christian, told AFP. "It means I have accepted Mohammad and other prophets."

http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/..._islam_in_iran

[Kushan Prince]

You seem to be misunderstood. Your getting all your information from Wikipedia ( unreliable btw) and other misinformed websites. The other information you posted seems to be of topic donuts not worth reading.

[Shah-i-Kot]

Landrace in context can refer to a person, place or thing..well preserved like coral and pearls and every scavenger trying to capitalise (draw advantages from) of it.

First mention of the area in "Western" history if you bothered to read my first post, I stated Kandahar is much older than Alexander the greats..great find.
Western History starts with Greek-Macedonian literature, the timing of this correlates with Ariana-Afghanistan-Persia and Europe as we knew it to be Greek-Roman, the two pearls of the world Persia and Greco-Roman civilization.

Alexander the great is mentioned in the old testament book of Danial he-goat and Koran "Dhul Qarnain" two horned one, the helmet given to him by Egyptians...where ever he went he conquered as the Koran narrates, who built the wall of Ajoj and Majoj ..Bible Gog Magog.

Danian 8:20 The two-horned ram that you saw represents the kings of Media and Persia

Koran The Cave
18:84 Verily We established his power on earth, and We gave him the ways and the means to all ends...

18:95 He said: "(The power) in which my Lord has established me is better (than tribute): help me therefore with strength (and labour): I will erect a strong barrier between you and them:

12th century map by the Muslim scholar Al-Idrisi (South up). "Yajooj" and "Majooj" (Gog and Magog) appear in Arabic script on the bottom-left edge of the Eurasian landmass


Afghanistan in its creation was-is a nation white people by Dna, history, linguistics and culture. Afghanistan resides on Eurasian plate georgraphi center of the world, not middle east, India or China.

BTW Alexander was great he forced humans to enter humanity grated by our Lord.

Perhaps you suffer from some form of a major inferiority complex because it was the one and only Pashtuns who defeated Greek-Macedoniana so much so that your 'brave' King Alexander wrote to his mother about how he has met lion like people-that he could not fight. Lets be frank, how long were the Greeks fighting the Persians. 1000 years, and Persians were nothing against Pashtuns. Dont worry, the Greeks were not the only ones who got beaten, bled, and crushed. Mongols did too and the aesthetic Persians with all their antsy acts....yeah....your Greeks are just a spec on the list of peoples Pashtuns have destroyed and defeated. Not pride but a simple fact. Deal with it.

Pride is not good and in our faith which is Islam is unacceptable, however, it is a matter of fact that Pashtuns have defeated everyone who has tried to fight against them.


Secondly, we Pashtuns whether some like it or not, are Bani Israel- the true Bani Israel who converted to Islam upon the advent of the last Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).

We are semitic in race, and have no links to Europe.

In regards to your claims of being Aryan, you are wrong there too. The only probable Aryans are Persians, and that in itself is questionable since the word Aryan is simply a Sanskrit word denoting noble blood- status in Vedic Hindu society.

Perhaps some European ethnologists who were so steeped in an inferiority complex *about being Barbaric dark age savages* wanted to adopt the term, but the fact is if there is an Aryan race, you, a European are not it. The Iranian or even the Himalayan mountain tribes are more Aryan than you can ever claim to be. In fact, Nazi Germans were so hell bent on this ideology of Atlantis in the Himalayans that they went there to study the Himalayan people. Himmler did. You see, the German pride was actually sourced from an attempt to disconnect themselves from Europeans - Aryan was exotic and different. They unfortunately have led a very bland set of European people to believe they are all one connected to some Aryan race which they have no connection to at all in the first place.

If you see a typical Pashtun male, there are more characteristics in common with a Middle Eastern/Sephardic (real) Jew, culturally and physically. Many of our customs and traditions are the same.

I am convinced that the Hadith of the Black Banners is about Pashtuns


Kandahar is from Gandhara (Sanskrit way of saying it). End of story.

Just because some Greeks are pissed off that Pashtuns defeated the Greeks no need to start rewriting history. Even Genghiz-Mongols, the Persians didnt do that.


Just because our mighty ancestors have defeated countless empires, it does not mean that the people of these places start trying to link themselves with Pashtuns.


Eurasia is a geographical term.

Afghanistan is the heart of Asia and the Middle East.

Alexander is not mentioned in the Quran. Please do not lie on this forum with such blasphemy, and an insult on our religion.

[asad71]

^ there was no civilization on earth that can compare to the grandness of the ancient Egyptians, that's why their monuments have survived even after 5000 years. Most other civilization were not as advanced as the egyptians, thats why their monuments crumbled with time

1. Wherever WCC (Western Christian Civilization) set foot, they sought to destroy the architecture, history, heritage, culture, religion and the language of the locals, imposing those of WCC on them. That's the main reason not much of ancient heritage outside WCC core is available. Some survived by individual action, etc. For instance, in 1958 after overthrowing the Mughals, the English Co set off on a course of loot and destruction. Only on the intervention of an alert chief of the archaeological deptt of the Co were some saved. These we see now in SA but these are really the residue after the loot and destruction.

2. Note that WCC has done the same in Baghdad and elsewhere in Iraq, and seeks to do the same in Damascus and Syria.

3. Beside Egypt, some have survived in China and S America.

[Apollyon]

Perhaps you suffer from some form of a major inferiority complex because it was the one and only Pashtuns who defeated Greek-Macedoniana so much so that your 'brave' King Alexander wrote to his mother about how he has met lion like people-that he could not fight. Lets be frank, how long were the Greeks fighting the Persians. 1000 years, and Persians were nothing against Pashtuns. Dont worry, the Greeks were not the only ones who got beaten, bled, and crushed. Mongols did too and the aesthetic Persians with all their antsy acts....yeah....your Greeks are just a spec on the list of peoples Pashtuns have destroyed and defeated. Not pride but a simple fact. Deal with it.

Pride is not good and in our faith which is Islam is unacceptable, however, it is a matter of fact that Pashtuns have defeated everyone who has tried to fight against them.


Secondly, we Pashtuns whether some like it or not, are Bani Israel- the true Bani Israel who converted to Islam upon the advent of the last Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).

We are semitic in race, and have no links to Europe.

In regards to your claims of being Aryan, you are wrong there too. The only probable Aryans are Persians, and that in itself is questionable since the word Aryan is simply a Sanskrit word denoting noble blood- status in Vedic Hindu society.

Perhaps some European ethnologists who were so steeped in an inferiority complex *about being Barbaric dark age savages* wanted to adopt the term, but the fact is if there is an Aryan race, you, a European are not it. The Iranian or even the Himalayan mountain tribes are more Aryan than you can ever claim to be. In fact, Nazi Germans were so hell bent on this ideology of Atlantis in the Himalayans that they went there to study the Himalayan people. Himmler did. You see, the German pride was actually sourced from an attempt to disconnect themselves from Europeans - Aryan was exotic and different. They unfortunately have led a very bland set of European people to believe they are all one connected to some Aryan race which they have no connection to at all in the first place.

If you see a typical Pashtun male, there are more characteristics in common with a Middle Eastern/Sephardic (real) Jew, culturally and physically. Many of our customs and traditions are the same.

I am convinced that the Hadith of the Black Banners is about Pashtuns


Kandahar is from Gandhara (Sanskrit way of saying it). End of story.

Just because some Greeks are pissed off that Pashtuns defeated the Greeks no need to start rewriting history. Even Genghiz-Mongols, the Persians didnt do that.


Just because our mighty ancestors have defeated countless empires, it does not mean that the people of these places start trying to link themselves with Pashtuns.


Eurasia is a geographical term.

Afghanistan is the heart of Asia and the Middle East.

Alexander is not mentioned in the Quran. Please do not lie on this forum with such blasphemy, and an insult on our religion.

Amateurish response perhaps we should dismiss your entire response. Please work on your sentence structure and English. I am Pashtun, from your response, I would not be out of line by saying you lack scientific and historical wisdom. Pashtun's are not middle eastern or semite, Afghanistan does not lie on the Middle eastern plate. The leonidus-lion like quote was in reference to many battles impossible to link. Your ancestors were worshipping idols, fire, and countless Hindu gods before Alexander arrived, "Nowroze" do you know what boys were doing with their mothers on this day? Sanskirt burrows from Avestan and has more merit, most of what you wrote regarding Greek is hogwash.

Greeks reconstructed and united the known world, as Afghans did with India when ruling the region. The accusations you (akhmak-khela)about Greeks is not tolerated by Afghans.

Alexanders Castle Herat



This is the remains of one of Alexander the Great's Castles located in Southern Afghanistan in the province of Uruzgon

Islam is not local or "your religion" but for everyone. If you feel more Hebrew, semite, Paki or Dravidian, then you should visit their forums pour your heart out.

[Wahe Guru]

Amateurish response perhaps we should dismiss your entire response. Please work on your sentence structure and English. I am Pashtun, from your response, I would not be out of line by saying you lack scientific and historical wisdom. Pashtun's are not middle eastern or semite, Afghanistan does not lie on the Middle eastern plate. The leonidus-lion like quote was in reference to many battles impossible to link. Your ancestors were worshipping idols, fire, and countless Hindu gods before Alexander arrived, "Nowroze" do you know what boys were doing with their mothers on this day? Sanskirt burrows from Avestan and has more merit, most of what you wrote regarding Greek is hogwash.

Greeks reconstructed and united the known world, as Afghans did with India when ruling the region. The accusations you (akhmak-khela)about Greeks is not tolerated by Afghans.

Alexanders Castle Herat



This is the remains of one of Alexander the Great's Castles located in Southern Afghanistan in the province of Uruzgon

Islam is not local or "your religion" but for everyone. If you feel more Hebrew, semite, Paki or Dravidian, then you should visit their forums pour your heart out.

You seem to be an intelligent person, but I politely suggest you look for some medical therapy with aim of overcoming your inferiority complexes...