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Any Nation That EVER Tried To Conquer Afghanistan NEVER Did
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Originally posted by Manzareh View Post^ it wasnt conquered, islam was taken up by pashtuns voluntarily.
nice try but #fail
That's not even true by Muslim Historical accounts; who are you fooling?[QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]
2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.
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Originally posted by Manzareh View PostIf becoming Muslim and believing the truth means being conquered then im happy about being conquered
That's what they call the House Slave mentality[QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]
2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.
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So, just because Europeans are Christian, Israelites must have conquered them, with their army and warriors and they defeated them. I never heard of it.Originally posted by Bharati View PostNo buddy i'm not trying to say that,
You're living in denial, the arabs conquered afghanistan with their army and warriors, they defeated the afghans
Remember this: Pashtuns are undefeatable!
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They were defeated by ashoka, arabs, persians, turks, mughals, sikhs, and now the pakistanisOriginally posted by Nima Khan Abdali View PostSo, just because Europeans are Christian, Israelites must have conquered them, with their army and warriors and they defeated them. I never heard of it.
Remember this: Pashtuns are undefeatable!.
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This is a blatant lie! Ashoka were in too south, arabs never reached that east as to Afghanistan, turks were in too north, mughals are a combination of Aryan peoples one of which was Pashtuns themselves, sikhs have to learn how to wash their ar.se first, and pakistan wouldn't exist and would've been invaded by India so far if there weren't Pashtuns in it. Then Persians, big brothers. Respect in front of them. Pashtuns were the inhabitants of the Arachosa Sartapy of Achamenids, which itself consisted of several Iranid peoples, one of which was Pashtuns, so Persians didn't invade Pashtuns, but Pashtuns was one of the ingredients of Persian (regarding national not ethnically). So, back off!Originally posted by Bharati View PostThey were defeated by ashoka, arabs, persians, turks, mughals, sikhs, and now the pakistanis
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You are living in denialOriginally posted by Nima Khan Abdali View PostThis is a blatant lie! Ashoka were in too south, arabs never reached that east as to Afghanistan, turks were in too north, mughals are a combination of Aryan peoples one of which was Pashtuns themselves, sikhs have to learn how to wash their ar.se first, and pakistan wouldn't exist and would've been invaded by India so far if there weren't Pashtuns in it. Then Persians, big brothers. Respect in front of them. Pashtuns were the inhabitants of the Arachosa Sartapy of Achamenids, which itself consisted of several Iranid peoples, one of which was Pashtuns, so Persians didn't invade Pashtuns, but Pashtuns was one of the ingredients of Persian (regarding national not ethnically). So, back off!
End of the discussion..
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Bharati is right. Pashtuns were defeated by many armies throughout history. But one thing which is praise worthy about pashtuns is their sense of freedom and honour. Death is considered better than being subjugated and enslaved among Pashtuns. No doubt you can defeat Pashtuns in battles but no one has been able to force them to abandon their lifestyle and values (pashtunwali).
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No i can't accept that, because islam changed the lifestyle of the pashtunsOriginally posted by badmash_khel View PostBharati is right. Pashtuns were defeated by many armies throughout history. But one thing which is praise worthy about pashtuns is their sense of freedom and honour. Death is considered better than being subjugated and enslaved among Pashtuns. No doubt you can defeat Pashtuns in battles but no one has been able to force them to abandon their lifestyle and values (pashtunwali)..
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Pashtuns accepted Islam by their own free will. It took hundreds of years for Pashtuns to become majority Muslim. Same is the case with other south Asians and Iranians. There might be different reasons as to why they became Muslims, some maybe due pure faith and some to escape Jizya. Others might have become Muslims because their tribal leaders converted to Islam.Originally posted by Bharati View PostNo i can't accept that, because islam changed the lifestyle of the pashtuns
There are many examples where the new Arab rulers in the early stages didn't encourage people to become Muslim so they can keep receiving the jizya tax from non Muslims. It was good business for them.
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while that is true. pashtunwali still trumps islam in pashtunland.Originally posted by badmash_khel View PostPashtuns accepted Islam by their own free will. It took hundreds of years for Pashtuns to become majority Muslim. Same is the case with other south Asians and Iranians. There might be different reasons as to why they became Muslims, some maybe due pure faith and some to escape Jizya. Others might have become Muslims because their tribal leaders converted to Islam.
There are many examples where the new Arab rulers in the early stages didn't encourage people to become Muslim so they can keep receiving the jizya tax from non Muslims. It was good business for them.
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this is a red herring. nima is talking about conquerring not defeat in battle. different. The americans have won almost every battle, but they have not conquerred afghanistan.Originally posted by Bharati View PostThey were defeated by ashoka, arabs, persians, turks, mughals, sikhs, and now the pakistanis
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