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  • Originally posted by khushal View Post
    your the one that thinks detroying is conquering. Did the russians not completely destroy afghanistan, fundamentaly restructured afghanistan forever. they did it in 10 years vs 100 years. more efficient. The irony is that unlike the mongols(who you claim conquered central asia) the russians(who themselves admit defeat) never converted to islam nor changed their language or culture but accepted defeat.
    im gonna try one more time because of your down syndrome

    the mongols RAN afghanistan for a century.

    i dont care if plankay khan in plankay village rose up once every 15 yrs. the mongols RAN afghanistan for over a century

    in no way shape or form, can it be compared to the soviet occupation who fought for 10 yrs then gave up and left

    the greater point is our history serves us no practical purpose and simply boosts fragile egos, youre included

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    • Originally posted by Amir al Ghaznavi View Post
      im gonna try one more time because of your down syndrome

      the mongols RAN afghanistan for a century.

      i dont care if plankay khan in plankay village rose up once every 15 yrs. the mongols RAN afghanistan for over a century

      in no way shape or form, can it be compared to the soviet occupation who fought for 10 yrs then gave up and left

      the greater point is our history serves us no practical purpose and simply boosts fragile egos, youre included
      Dont get mad at me because your too incompetant to win a debate. You have yourself to blame for that.
      Plankai Khan in plankai village rose up and were killed off but they never surrendered. The slayed rebels kin never forgot and always planned badal.

      This debate is not about wheather overwhelming force can supress people. We all know the answer to that is: Yes it can. Thats what the Soviets did and the US is doing but they are not and never did control the Afghan people. The Soviet soldiers couldnt and the US soldiers can not walk on pashtunland unarmed without fear of being killed. The Soviet soldiers could walk anywhere in Eastern Europe and Central Asia unarmed and feel no fear. The US soldiers could walk anywhere in Germany and Japan and walk unarmed without any fear. Now that is conquered where the people have accepted occupation and the will of the occupiers, complete control. Do you see the difference. The Mongols are on the same level as the Soviets and the US, but as I keep saying but wont get through your thick head is that unlike the US and Soviets, the Mongols accepted Islam and abondoned their own culture and language. It were the Mongols that were conquered because it was them that accepted the Islamic laws of the land, the people of the land never accpeted Mongol laws.

      I am not boosting anyones ego but on the contrary it is you who works for a think tank should understand why Pashtuns have never accepted foreign ways and foreign ideas, why has pashtuns way of life not changed by all these invaders. Your thinktank can never solve any problems unless you stop boosting your own fragile ego and understand the facts instead of pretending to know everything. Stop showing ignorance by throwing insults at people who disagree with you. Your not that smart and no one cares how smart you think you are but everyone can learn from others.

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      • Originally posted by khushal View Post
        Dont get mad at me because your too incompetant to win a debate. You have yourself to blame for that.
        Plankai Khan in plankai village rose up and were killed off but they never surrendered. The slayed rebels kin never forgot and always planned badal.

        This debate is not about wheather overwhelming force can supress people. We all know the answer to that is: Yes it can. Thats what the Soviets did and the US is doing but they are not and never did control the Afghan people. The Soviet soldiers couldnt and the US soldiers can not walk on pashtunland unarmed without fear of being killed. The Soviet soldiers could walk anywhere in Eastern Europe and Central Asia unarmed and feel no fear. The US soldiers could walk anywhere in Germany and Japan and walk unarmed without any fear. Now that is conquered where the people have accepted occupation and the will of the occupiers, complete control. Do you see the difference. The Mongols are on the same level as the Soviets and the US, but as I keep saying but wont get through your thick head is that unlike the US and Soviets, the Mongols accepted Islam and abondoned their own culture and language. It were the Mongols that were conquered because it was them that accepted the Islamic laws of the land, the people of the land never accpeted Mongol laws.

        I am not boosting anyones ego but on the contrary it is you who works for a think tank should understand why Pashtuns have never accepted foreign ways and foreign ideas, why has pashtuns way of life not changed by all these invaders. Your thinktank can never solve any problems unless you stop boosting your own fragile ego and understand the facts instead of pretending to know everything. Stop showing ignorance by throwing insults at people who disagree with you. Your not that smart and no one cares how smart you think you are but everyone can learn from others.
        youre too incompetent to spell incompetent. the think tank references are cute. you speak like graveyard. do you know what happens when one khar follows another khar? we have 2 hungry khars.

        you can go ahead and believe that Pashtuns sought badal against Mongols, and that Mongols negotiated with Pashtuns to leave, and that the Pashtuns had something to do with Mongols being Muslims, go ahead. Im not gonna waste my afternoon going through books and sources to prove to you that the Mongols indeed conquered Central Asia lol. Enjoy your delusions

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        • Originally posted by Amir al Ghaznavi View Post
          youre too incompetent to spell incompetent. the think tank references are cute. you speak like graveyard. do you know what happens when one khar follows another khar? we have 2 hungry khars.

          you can go ahead and believe that Pashtuns sought badal against Mongols, and that Mongols negotiated with Pashtuns to leave, and that the Pashtuns had something to do with Mongols being Muslims, go ahead. Im not gonna waste my afternoon going through books and sources to prove to you that the Mongols indeed conquered Central Asia lol. Enjoy your delusions
          I rest my case.

          are you not the makeup wearing homo that thinks everyone else is a homo, now you are the khar that thinks everyone else is a khar.
          Last edited by khushal; 01-03-2012, 07:15 PM.

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          • i was gonna write out some long thing but f it. mongols did conquer what is today "afghanistan"
            There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

            Sayyid Qutb

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            • Originally posted by khushal View Post
              I rest my case.

              on a side note, with all that makeup your wearing, you must be hiding something.
              what a fabulous case you rest. no sources, no proof, nothing.

              "pashtuns sought badal against mongols"...ahahaha im still laughing

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              • Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
                i was gonna write out some long thing but f it. mongols did conquer what is today "afghanistan"
                no they didnt. forget established history. Khushal here knows better than us all. The Pashtuns sought Badal and converted the Mongols and the Mongols were scared shiitless to walk through Afghanistan

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                • Originally posted by Luffy View Post
                  Karachi is right.I would give one example. I was reading Babur-nama, mughals came to afghanistan as outsiders after they were expelled by uzbeks from their homelands, they conquored whole present day Afghanistan under babur. But Afghanistan was just sands, stones and mountains, so mughals real target was a rich country india.

                  All the invaders bypassed afghanistan and attacked india for loot. They were not interested in looting dry barren stony country, those who came in their way, got killed. Even alexander the great goal was india, not afghanistan...British invaded afghanistan to teach afghans a lesson, they were not interested in occupying afghanistan. They decided to keep it as a buffer state even though they were in full position to occupy it..they sent comparitively small forces to afghanistan. But if you take example of tipu sultan's mysore, british contineously attacked it for three four decades with lakhs of forces as mysore was richest and most developed state in subcontinent at that time.
                  Whatever the reasons were and whether or not 'they could have if they wanted to' is irrelevent and still doesnt change the fact that they never. Besides you say the British could have occupied Afghansitan? dude they tried there best 3 times, the Afghans taught the British a lesson not the other way around.

                  Saying that though i disagree with GOE, as plenty of Empires invaded and left PERMANENT marks on Afghanistan..i would call that invaded. However if he said Pashtuns have never been conquared id agree. the language and people prove it.
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                  *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

                  Originally posted by Karachi
                  like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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                  • Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
                    i was gonna write out some long thing but f it. mongols did conquer what is today "afghanistan"
                    So how are we supposed to bite what you write if you dont write it.

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                    • Originally posted by Amir al Ghaznavi View Post
                      no they didnt. forget established history. Khushal here knows better than us all. The Pashtuns sought Badal and converted the Mongols and the Mongols were scared shiitless to walk through Afghanistan
                      red herring, I never said that.
                      the only thing the mongols left behind were hazaras who had no language of their own and no culture of their own, and they have been used as slaves by tajiks and pashtuns.
                      Where is your source, go find me a treaty that was signed by the mongols and the pashtun tribes.

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                      • Originally posted by Luffy View Post
                        what are budha statues and temples are doing in pakhtunkhwa and afghanistan?
                        What do you expect from people who think all Pashtuns came from one man and were Jews. They ignore the fact that buddfist and hindu temples are found all over the Pashtun belt but due to the restrictions and radicalisation of the masses, its very difficult for people to come and accept this truth. If we unearthed our region we would see Pagan idols, Hindu gods, Buddish relics all over, and I bet you we wont find a single Jewish torah nor any evidence that were were Jews.

                        Ghundal assumes we are like Imran Khans children, sons of Jews for which we are not, we are not Semites nor Semitic peoples, we are not Arabs nor Jews, Khushal Khattak wouldnt have stated the Arabs know we are Afghans and if anyone disagrees we would chop their heads off.

                        Pashtuns throughout history can referred to themselves as Pashtuns not Bani Israel, Bani Isaac or Bani Waleed.

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                        • Khushal

                          The mongols eradicated the whole population of Herat in less than 7 days without any rebellion or a single arrow being fired at them.

                          The mongols conquered Afghanistan with ease and if it wasnt for the fact that the ruling Mongols bickered and fought against each other for power you would be speaking Mongolian right now.

                          These delusions and fabricated historical lies from Khushal goes to show some dont read history properly as they claim to.

                          The title of Khan which is a Mongol one, goes to show the influence the Mongols have left upon the Pashtun people.

                          Afghanistan has been conquered over and over again, the Greeks did it, the Persians did it, the Arabs did it, the Mongols did it, the Turks did it, the Hindu Shah dyansty did it, the Pakistanis are doing it, the NATO forces did it in two weeks etc etc etc

                          Some people need to let go of their self egoes, because its damaging and quite laughable if they ever said those stupid things infront of a well versed historian.

                          Afghanistan has always been at war with each other, look at the tribalism amongst the Pashtun people, when there is peace, they fight each other for power, gold and land.

                          Conquered hahahaha!

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                          • Originally posted by Soldat_Amir View Post
                            Afghanistan has been conquered over and over again, the Greeks did it, the Persians did it, the Arabs did it, the Mongols did it, the Turks did it, the Hindu Shah dyansty did it, the Pakistanis are doing it, the NATO forces did it in two weeks etc etc etc

                            My people didn’t get conquered by the Greeks - if they did then we'd have Greek DNA we'd be speaking a Greek language and have Greek cultures, same goes for Persians, Arabs, Mongols, Turks and Hindus. Yes certain peoples and nations in Afghanistan have been conquered but not the Pashtuns, there’s a difference between invading and conquering, when you look at South America or more closer to home the Tajik peoples: that’s what you call conquered. Go speak to a well versed historian if you like, the Pashtun language, features, DNA, customs etc have stayed the same throughout all these empires reigns which goes to show the Pashtun has never been subdued. Alot of our culture was adopted from Arabs because of Islam it was voluntary more than anything.
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                            *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

                            Originally posted by Karachi
                            like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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                            • Originally posted by Soldat_Amir View Post
                              Khushal
                              I thought I was on your ignore list.
                              The mongols eradicated the whole population of Herat in less than 7 days without any rebellion or a single arrow being fired at them.

                              The mongols conquered Afghanistan with ease and if it wasnt for the fact that the ruling Mongols bickered and fought against each other for power you would be speaking Mongolian right now.
                              Come on, are you not reading. We already went throught this, you guys are just repeating the same thing. Mogloids accepted our ways, they accepted Islam, they accpeted persian as their language, they accpeted our clothing and our culture. You could forget about pashtuns and tajiks speaking mongolians, the hazaras who are mongolian are not even speaking mongolian, heck the mongolians arent even speaking their own language in mongolia. you guys should bring up other invaders to prove your point. the mogolians are the worst example.
                              These delusions and fabricated historical lies from Khushal goes to show some dont read history properly as they claim to.
                              hahaha, your just mad because the pashtuns refuse to accept communism just the way they wouldnt accept the mongloid ways. go educate yourself about why it was so.
                              The title of Khan which is a Mongol one, goes to show the influence the Mongols have left upon the Pashtun people.
                              Again, you fail to acknowledge historical facts, Khan was adopted to them by the Turks and he accpeted a turkish name for himself. Again Mr. Chengis realizing his own inferior mogloid culture accepting a foreign name for himself.

                              Afghanistan has been conquered over and over again, the Greeks did it, the Persians did it, the Arabs did it, the Mongols did it, the Turks did it, the Hindu Shah dyansty did it, the Pakistanis are doing it, the NATO forces did it in two weeks etc etc etc
                              Invasion is different from conquered. All invaders have said about Afghanistan that It is easy to get into but hard to get out of. They say this because they have a hard time controlling the people and its hard to get out and tarnish their own (invaders) ego. NATO has already accpeted defeat, they pratically begging the TAliban for peace talks, tey are releasing their prisoners. For your information the Taliban regime collapsed in 7 weeks not 2 weeks. NATO soldiers dieing daily in afghanistan is proof that conquering has not occurred.
                              Some people need to let go of their self egoes, because its damaging and quite laughable if they ever said those stupid things infront of a well versed historian.

                              Afghanistan has always been at war with each other, look at the tribalism amongst the Pashtun people, when there is peace, they fight each other for power, gold and land.

                              Conquered hahahaha!
                              Look up the definition fo conquer and get back to us, you have no historical knowledge, your a communist that dont know what communism is. you laugh at pashtun misery in your videos, you are joke.
                              Last edited by khushal; 01-06-2012, 12:42 AM.

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                              • buddha staues and temples are left over from the gandhara period. those stutues were not imposed by foreign rule. the people themselves were buddhist at one time.

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