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  • Originally posted by Maiwand View Post
    Maybe it will have something to do with Bani Israel, I would feel proud if it can be proven genetically that we Pashtuns are the descendants of those prophets of Bani Israel and now we are one of the best muslims in the whole world. We are fighting today to defend the real Islam and we want the establishment of Allah's laws on earth! That is so great!
    Bani Israel is a load of non sense that has never been proven.

    Pashtuns are Iranic peoples, mixed with many other invaders, there is no evidence linking Pashtuns with Jews or Arabs.

    This is what I have been stressing all along. These Jews and Arabs, have always tried to subject Pashtuns, through their stupid links and unproven claims.

    The person who claimed Pashtuns are Bani Israel, did so, to make the Pashtuns look spiritual to the Mughals and special, just like how the Syeds do to this day,

    If you want to follow this unproven factless theory, then you will be directly saying the "Karlani" Pashtuns, Mahsud, Wazir,Zadran,Zazai, Khattaks, Bannuchi are not Pashtuns, as Karlan was the orphan Qais discovered.

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    • Originally posted by Soldat_Amir View Post
      Bani Israel is a load of non sense that has never been proven.

      Pashtuns are Iranic peoples, mixed with many other invaders, there is no evidence linking Pashtuns with Jews or Arabs.

      This is what I have been stressing all along. These Jews and Arabs, have always tried to subject Pashtuns, through their stupid links and unproven claims.

      The person who claimed Pashtuns are Bani Israel, did so, to make the Pashtuns look spiritual to the Mughals and special, just like how the Syeds do to this day,

      If you want to follow this unproven factless theory, then you will be directly saying the "Karlani" Pashtuns, Mahsud, Wazir,Zadran,Zazai, Khattaks, Bannuchi are not Pashtuns, as Karlan was the orphan Qais discovered.


      If that is true, then why do you look like a Jew instead of a Persian ?

      You have asian features (your eyes) like the Ashkenazi Khazars and you don't have olive complexion like Persians.

      I was sure you were a jew spy the first day I say your picture.

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      • Originally posted by Al Hanif View Post

        If that is true, then why do you look like a Jew instead of a Persian ?

        You have asian features (your eyes) like the Ashkenazi Khazars and you don't have olive complexion like Persians.

        I was sure you were a jew spy the first day I say your picture.
        I have a cousin who has blonde hair and blue eyes, my wife's father, my father in law, has red hair and light green eyes, and guess what, we do not look like Jews.

        As a matter of fact, I did my wife's DNA test not long ago, and her origins came from what is now Croatia. She, like me, are Maseeds from South Waziristan, very far from the Arab world and Persia, So the whole Bani Israel/Arab links are just mere Propaganda tools to subject the Pashtuns and destry our identity.

        Jews and Arabs are the same enemy in my eyes.

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        • Originally posted by Soldat_Amir View Post
          I have a cousin who has blonde hair and blue eyes, my wife's father, my father in law, has red hair and light green eyes, and guess what, we do not look like Jews.

          As a matter of fact, I did my wife's DNA test not long ago, and her origins came from what is now Croatia. She, like me, are Maseeds from South Waziristan, very far from the Arab world and Persia, So the whole Bani Israel/Arab links are just mere Propaganda tools to subject the Pashtuns and destry our identity.

          Jews and Arabs are the same enemy in my eyes.


          But I swear that you look like a Jew.

          Your father in law might not look like one but you do look like a Jew.

          You have pale skin, you have dark eyes and a round nose.

          You don't look like a Croatian, a German or a Scandinavian for sure.

          Shalom.

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          • Plus my eyes are not chinky or Asian(chinese,japanese). They are what you would refer to as "puppy eyes" they are small, I am afraid, I was born like that.

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            • Originally posted by Al Hanif View Post

              But I swear that you look like a Jew.

              Your father in law might not look like one but you do look like a Jew.

              You have pale skin, you have dark eyes and a round nose.

              You don't look like a Croatian, a German or a Scandinavian for sure.

              Shalom.
              Stop talking out of your arse dude. Jews, look like many things, I have seen blonde haired nordic looking Jews in Europe, I am not a Jew and neither do I have any genes with them.

              Rest assured, I am sure you are more Jew than me, since many did flee from Spain to your shores.

              Not Waziristan.

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              • Originally posted by Soldat_Amir View Post
                Stop talking out of your arse dude. Jews, look like many things, I have seen blonde haired nordic looking Jews in Europe, I am not a Jew and neither do I have any genes with them.

                Rest assured, I am sure you are more Jew than me, since many did flee from Spain to your shores.

                Not Waziristan.
                Yeah man, in this picture, you really look like a jew, not like a Croatian

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                • Actually some of the Jews look like Persian. They have dark hair, pale skin, and dark eyes, like jews, and persian don't have olive skin, only some but its not the charistiristic of a persian, actualy Arab and Jews are the closest in looks, sometimes when they are talking about Israel on tv, some jews and Palistians who are Arabs look really similar, only some Jews are looking really European, but they are the European peopel who were converted long ago in to judaism.

                  And Amir looks like an ordinary Pashtun, his skin looks pale becuase he lives in the west I bet if he lived in Afghanistan he would got taned and will look like an ordinary pashtun man. And its really funny that an Berber and a Punjabi is telling a Pashtun that he is not looking like a Pashtun. LOL

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                  • Originally posted by AFG21 View Post
                    Actually some of the Jews look like Persian. They have dark hair, pale skin, and dark eyes, like jews, and persian don't have olive skin, only some but its not the charistiristic of a persian, actualy Arab and Jews are the closest in looks, sometimes when they are talking about Israel on tv, some jews and Palistians who are Arabs look really similar, only some Jews are looking really European, but they are the European peopel who were converted long ago in to judaism.

                    And Amir looks like an ordinary Pashtun, his skin looks pale becuase he lives in the west I bet if he lived in Afghanistan he would got taned and will look like an ordinary pashtun man. And its really funny that an Berber and a Punjabi is telling a Pashtun that he is not looking like a Pashtun. LOL
                    Aow Kana, this is the problem of our society, they are already deciding who is Pashtun and who is not.

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                    • ^They are just frustrated, I bet the Punjabi is skiny yelowish black man, and the berber a short man who is fat and has curley hair like that of a sheep. That what the most Punjabis and Berbers look like in Holland.

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                      • Pashtuns are not close to jews at all, the closest group to jews are arabs, berbers, persians and kurds.

                        I pity the fools who still believe we are related to jews despite the evidence to the contrary.

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                        • Originally posted by badmash_khel View Post
                          Pashtuns are not close to jews at all, the closest group to jews are arabs, berbers, persians and kurds.

                          I pity the fools who still believe we are related to jews despite the evidence to the contrary.

                          1) "semite" has no meaning culturally and genetically
                          2) today, the word "berber" is only based on language

                          The core of the berbers, what is often called "coastal", has a different genesis, and a clear european shared ancestry while Egypt lacks it (has more to do with [south]west asia, directly).

                          Nonetheless, lower egyptians are comparable with the core of berbers in terms of west eurasian ancestry VS "african".

                          the berbers orginally came from spain and portugal where they were known as the iberians.

                          we lived in North Africa way before the Arabs came so we are not related to semites

                          we are also related to the guanche peoples from the canary islands

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                          • Originally posted by Al Hanif View Post

                            1) "semite" has no meaning culturally and genetically
                            2) today, the word "berber" is only based on language

                            The core of the berbers, what is often called "coastal", has a different genesis, and a clear european shared ancestry while Egypt lacks it (has more to do with [south]west asia, directly).

                            Nonetheless, lower egyptians are comparable with the core of berbers in terms of west eurasian ancestry VS "african".

                            the berbers orginally came from spain and portugal where they were known as the iberians.

                            we lived in North Africa way before the Arabs came so we are not related to semites

                            we are also related to the guanche peoples from the canary islands
                            Semite does have a meaning, both culturally, linguistically and genetically.

                            most semites, jews, arabs, berbers belong to the same haplogroups, E1b1(north africa and somalia) and J (j1 in yemen and j2 in syria and levant). semitic languages and berber language belong to afro-asiatic family so they have common linguistic ancestors.

                            spainish and german are indo european languages closer to iranic and indic languages than berber or other afro asiatic languages.

                            all the peoples of medditeranians share some common history. only tiny portion of coastal spain has semitic or berber influence in terms of genes. The spainiards are clearly different than berbers as proven by DNA tests. spainiards are R1b while berbers are overwhelminly E1b1, j and some R1b mixture.

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                            • Pashtuns aren't jews...
                              Punjabis and berber

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                              • guys check latest spread sheet out, it is autmosal break up of many different ethnic groups

                                22 Pashtuns/Pathans samples are listed at number 69

                                These samples were collected from Peshawar: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...ldWxwVmc#gid=0

                                I will post the highest numbers in pashtuns

                                Northern European: 13.3%
                                South Asian: 22.9%
                                Caucasus: 13.9%
                                Gedrosia(Balochistan) 42%

                                ^ btw the Gedrosia component is also of west Eurasian origin but it is a very old component that came very long ago, thats why it is known as the Baluchistan component

                                SO basically over all these 22 samples from Peshawar show that pashtuns are good 70% west eurasian, with the rest being mostly south asian
                                Last edited by Karachi; 12-17-2011, 01:49 PM.

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