Request: Pashtun DNA tables

[kurd123]

Hello, I was wondering if anyone has some sources on Pashtun DNA or Afghan DNA? it would be great if you can list them here, I want to compare them to others in the region.

[بصير]

See Pashtun here for Y DNA
Y-DNA haplogroups by ethnic groups - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Wiki has cited this study, see figure 1
Y-chromosomal evidence for a limited Greek contribution to the Pathan population of Pakistan

Note however that this is merely a study with a certain Pashtun sample. We obviously cannot with certainty generalize these values to Pashtuns as a population but we can nevertheless atleast assume the population values are probably similar.
Also we can argue Mitochondrial DNA (passed on from mother) is irrelevant when it comes to Pashtuns since Pashtuns are a patriarchal people and you are only Pashtun if your patriarchal lineage is (i.e. mothers ethnicity is irrelevant). This study seems to refute the Israelite theory since the J haplogroup (Semitic marker) was only found in 6.3% of the Pashtun sample.

Interesting values on Kurds tough, that particular study seems to indicate large Semitic influence (40% J haplogroup and most common one) on Iraqi Kurds.

[Sheenka]

i thought DNA was personal thing

[Ayub.]

Lol @ sheenky. Yeah it is Kurd is a perv. :p

[Sheenka]

lolzss share your DNA ^

[kurd123]

See Pashtun here for Y DNA
Y-DNA haplogroups by ethnic groups - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Wiki has cited this study, see figure 1
Y-chromosomal evidence for a limited Greek contribution to the Pathan population of Pakistan

Note however that this is merely a study with a certain Pashtun sample. We obviously cannot with certainty generalize these values to Pashtuns as a population but we can nevertheless atleast assume the population values are probably similar.
Also we can argue Mitochondrial DNA (passed on from mother) is irrelevant when it comes to Pashtuns since Pashtuns are a patriarchal people and you are only Pashtun if your patriarchal lineage is (i.e. mothers ethnicity is irrelevant). This study seems to refute the Israelite theory since the J haplogroup (Semitic marker) was only found in 6.3% of the Pashtun sample.

Interesting values on Kurds tough, that particular study seems to indicate large Semitic influence (40% J haplogroup and most common one) on Iraqi Kurds.

This is 'Iraqi' Kurd DNA:

J2 - 28.4%
R1b - 16.8%
I - 16.8%
R1a - 11.6%
J1 - 11.6%
E1b1b - 7.4%
G - 4.2%
T - 3.2

It differs from Kurds in Turkey, they have more I haplogroup.

Yes, we have nearly 29% J2 (native Mesopotamian DNA) becuase that's where we live Europeans came and assimilated the natives, we were once Assyrians now we are Kurdish.

P.S: Thanks for the source.

[afgpower]

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[kurd123]

pashtuns are aryans, thats enough to know lol

Aryan simply means noble, and has nothing to do with DNA.

[یاسمینه]

Scythian... I'm sorry for being a little sarcastic, but I couldn't resist. Do you really think that Wikipedia is the best place to look for genetic information? I spent 10 years as a scientist in medical field (cancer epidemiology) and I can say that more reliable resources exist.

[kurd123]

Scythian... I'm sorry for being a little sarcastic, but I couldn't resist. Do you really think that Wikipedia is the best place to look for genetic information? I spent 10 years as a scientist in medical field (cancer epidemiology) and I can say that more reliable resources exist.

Can you post them please? wikepedia is not always accurate, however sometimes the sources used are accurate, so it's always good to check the sources before using wikepedia.

[یاسمینه]

Kurd123 - www.pubmed.org is the best source of medical papers. Abstracts are available. Papers - usually not. But knowing the title of interesting paper you may try to look for it in internet.
Another way - type in google sth like "population genetic Afghanistan" or so and check appearing results.
There is also website of a commercial projectpresenting partial results: http://www.dnatribes.com/sample-resu...affinities.pdf

Im not sure if sth like complete Pashtun DNA table exists. Plus population genetic is rapidly growing field of science, many researches are carried out so results may vary.

[kurd123]

Kurd123 - www.pubmed.org is the best source of medical papers. Abstracts are available. Papers - usually not. But knowing the title of interesting paper you may try to look for it in internet.
Another way - type in google sth like "population genetic Afghanistan" or so and check appearing results.
There is also website of a commercial projectpresenting partial results: http://www.dnatribes.com/sample-resu...affinities.pdf

Im not sure if sth like complete Pashtun DNA table exists. Plus population genetic is rapidly growing field of science, many researches are carried out so results may vary.

Thanks for the input, and I have run a Google search previously and have seen some DNA websites, but I thought that maybe some pashtuns on this website might have more reliable information becuase from my understand sometimes DNA results can be used for political munipulation and so I came here to get more reliable and accurate information.

[یاسمینه]

You can also check external links given under text from Wikipedia. The text from Wikipedia has not been published as a official papee and has not been listen in pubmed. That's why it's scientific credibility is limited. But external sources and references looks ok. Try to find these reference papers in pubmed (you will get abstracts).

[retro]

This is 'Iraqi' Kurd DNA:

J2 - 28.4%
R1b - 16.8%
I - 16.8%
R1a - 11.6%
J1 - 11.6%
E1b1b - 7.4%
G - 4.2%
T - 3.2

It differs from Kurds in Turkey, they have more I haplogroup.

Yes, we have nearly 29% J2 (native Mesopotamian DNA) becuase that's where we live Europeans came and assimilated the natives, we were once Assyrians now we are Kurdish.

P.S: Thanks for the source.

Hello Mr Kurd

Pashtuns are mostly R1a with some J2. However I don't know what their mtDNA is like. I would be surprised if it wasn't fairly Indic or even Turkic.

I'd say that Tajiks are descended from some kind of northern Iranic peoples and the Tajiks cultural influence upon the region is very significant.

As I'm sure you appreciate Kurds differ a great deal from region to another. Nevertheless it's fair to say that Kurds are really a mixture of Southern Mesopotamian and Anatolian peoples. However they are not a Iranic, Indo-European peoples but rather Anatolian.

As in Anatolia in ancient times peoples such as the Hittites, entered Anatolia from the region north of the Black Sea and they spoke a centum, European type Indo-European branch.

Many Kurds also have a certain amount of Armenian or Assyrian ancestry. However the Armenians are really a intermediary group between Anatolians and Assyrians and they also also have ties with the Georgians. Whilst the Assyrians are a Western Asian Semitic peoples. Who have ties to the Armenians and Greeks.

It's also worth noting that the Greeks hired Celtic mercenaries to clear the Balkans of Scythians. Which is how the Galatians ended up in Anatolia and these Anatolian Celts along with many Greeks, ended up becoming Turks and Kurds.

[بصير]

Scythian... I'm sorry for being a little sarcastic, but I couldn't resist. Do you really think that Wikipedia is the best place to look for genetic information? I spent 10 years as a scientist in medical field (cancer epidemiology) and I can say that more reliable resources exist.

Wikipedia values are taken from this study (also in pubmed), scroll down and cliuck figure 1 to see them there
Y-chromosomal evidence for a limited Greek contribution to the Pathan population of Pakistan