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    Genes are the basic hereditary unit transferred from parent to offspring. Associated structures called Markers can be used together with genes to find relationships between individuals. This can identify similar groups of peoples, ethnicity, race and paternity. For this purpose thousands of genes and millions of associated markers are utilized.
    Researches have shown not only a relationship between Afghan (Pashtun) and Jewish (Ashkenazi, Sephardic, Arab Jewish) DNA but that Afghan DNA is second closest (68.1) to Ashkenazi DNA after Irani and Iraqi Jews (67.9).[64][65] Though most of these researches have used Yusufzai, Afridi or Khattak samples from Pakistan and India, inferences can be drawn about Afghan DNA in general.
    Rare genetic disease among populations show a common origin. In this regard, the rare disease Inclusion body myopathy has been found among Afghans (Pashtuns), Iranian Jews and Ashkenazi Jews. This indicates a common founder mutation.[66][67][68][69]
    "Inclusion body myopathy a disease in which muscular weakness appears is a rare genetic disorder from a founder mutation which is localized to Jewish populations. While most known patients are Iranian Jews, a few originate from Afghans (Pashtuns) from Afghanistan. The high frequency is due to a founder mutation [GNE, M712T]"

    Another genetic disease common to both Pashtuns and Jews is the disease Glucose 6 Phosphate Dehydrogenase deficiency.[70][71]
    "G6PDH is common to Jews from Kurdistan, Iraq, Iran, Yemen and in Afghans /Pashtuns."

    Sibship relationships and strains

    Related researches include.[72] About the Jewish strain.[73]
    "Important strains in the Jewish blend include the Robust Mediterranean, Cappadocian Mediterranean, Irano-Afghan."

    "Ethnic group sibships 1st degree Lesser cases treated Jews from North Africa 12+1* 6 1 18 + 1* 12 Iran 7 + 1* 4 10 + 1* 5 Iraq 5 3 19 Yemen 19 6 6 30 11 Afghanistan 11 2 1 Turkey 2 1 4 2 Israel Arabs 7 5 2 9 8 Total 54 26 10 83 44 ..."

    Genetics & Migration to Afghanistan

    Research about the migration of the original founders Afghans to Afghanistan.[74]
    Variations from Jewish groups

    The variation seen between Afghans and other Jewish groups (Iranian, Arab, Iraqi Jews and Ashkenazi) is related to the mingling of Afghan DNA with local non semitic groups of peoples.[75]
    Genetics & Anthropology

    Research into human DNA is a new way to explore historical movements of populations by studying their genetic make-up.
    Various Genetic studies have been carried out by different sources. The latest studies indicate a multi match for certain haplotypes that include in particular haplogroups J2, G1, G2c and subtypes.
    The Gs include G1, G2c (Y-STR haplotype 731),2,3,5 from various studies:



    Some genetic genealogy studies also indicate a minor contribution to the Pashtun DNA from Iranian, Arab, Turkish and Greek peoples.[80]
    The theory of Pashtun descent from Israelites is currently being studied by Navras Aafreedi and Shahnaz Ali of India.[81][82]
    "Pathans, or Pashtuns, are the only people in the world whose probable descent from the lost tribes of Israel finds mention in a number of texts from the 10th century to the present day, written by Jewish, Christian and Muslim scholars alike, both religious as well as secularists."[83]
    —Navras Aafreedi, academic at the University of Lucknow and member of the Afridis
    Israel is planning to fund this rare genetic study to determine whether there is a link between the lost tribes of Israel and the Pashtuns.
    "Of all the groups, there is more convincing evidence about the Pashtuns than anybody else, but the Pashtuns are the ones who would reject Israel most ferociously. That is the sweet irony."[83]
    —Shalva Weil, anthropologist and senior researcher at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem
    Mitochondrial DNA analysis on a 2500 year-old skeleton excavated from a Scythian kurgan at the Kizil site in the Altai Republic casts doubt on the theory of Pashtun descent from Scythians. Results showed the remains to be a member of haplogroup N1a.[84] This haplogroup is spread widely across Eurasia and northeast Africa in low frequencies but is not currently identified in Pashtuns. Precise matches to the Scythian skeleton are found in Yemen, Armenia, Egypt, Germany, and Estonia. Additionally:
    • Mitochondrial DNA extracted from two Scytho-Siberian skeletons (Altai Republic (Russia) dating back 2,500 years) show characteristics "of mixed Euro-Mongoloid origin". ("European" in this context means Western Eurasian).[85] One of the individuals was found to carry the F2a maternal lineage, and the other the D lineage, both of which are characteristic of East Eurasian populations.[86]
    • Maternal genetic analysis (of Saka period male and female skeletal remains, Beral site Kazakhstan) determined an HV1 mitochondrial sequence in the male (most frequent in European populations) and the HV1 sequence of the female to be of an Asian origin. It was suggested that the female may have derived from either mtDNA X or D.[87]
    • Y-Chromosome DNA testing (ancient Scythian skeletons dated to the 5th century BCE, Sebÿstei site) exhibited the R1a1 haplogroup. A search in the YHRD database as well as the researching scientists' own database revealed close matches were found for a haplotype found at high frequency in Altaians & among eastern Europeans and Central Anatolia. Other haplotype matches closely matched types in Poland, Germany, Anatolia, Armenia, Nepal and India.[88]

    From these and many other studies it is thus conclusive that genetic makeup of Scythians and Scythian hybrids does not match Pasthun DNA.[citation needed]

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    Ashkenazi Jews were orginally a people of central asia, so yes it is possible. But i would still like to know how they conducted this study

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    • #3
      ashkenazi jews aren't even real "jews"...the jews of the 12 tribes of Israel. They converted to juidasim because they didn't want to convert to Islam....

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      • #4
        Thecongo.......are you unnikit maryanuu tulshyan?

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        • #5
          this may be true, but it is irrelevant now. There are stories after all.

          It can be used in the future to also reclaim Palestine for the Palestinians.

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          • #6
            The Jews in Iran and Iraq are mostly of Assyrian extraction and that they have little to do with Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews in a ethnic sense.

            It's a mistake to underestimate Hellenic/Anatolian infuences upon the Near East and nearly half the Jews ancestry is Southern European.

            Haplogroups J2 is Greek/Anatolian-Armenian/Assyrian and ancient times, Northern Mesopotamian, Anatolia and Persia where under Indo-European infuence. Whilst the south was far more Semitic.

            The Jews are somewhat related to the Kurds (Southern Mesopotamian/Anatolia). However they are originally from even much further south and where likely once a Syrian desert peoples.
            [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLflrGStfaY]Afghan Loghari dance- Homayoun Sakhi, Salar Nader & Mariam - YouTube[/url]

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            • #7
              Originally posted by AshrafGhaljay View Post
              this may be true, but it is irrelevant now. There are stories after all.

              It can be used in the future to also reclaim Palestine for the Palestinians.
              Yeah maybe you should exercise your right to return.

              I don't have view on Pashtun peoples origins. However I'd say that you are largely of Northern Indo-Iranic/Mesopotamian extraction and to a lesser degree Turkic.
              [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLflrGStfaY]Afghan Loghari dance- Homayoun Sakhi, Salar Nader & Mariam - YouTube[/url]

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              • #8
                LOL Ashkenasi LOL as far as I know this was one of the most famous and wealthy Germans in the Roman empire. I just wonder if people would then compare the Ashkenasi with Germans lol there is no difference either. Besides I wonder how does the Afghan race of India was so in comparison similar to them germans? Besides I once paid $180.00 some long long time ago just to see the results, however they also asked the country of my origin, and somehow I was also connected to Europe. LOL I never looked at myself anything close to being European. Date which I was European LOL 20,000 BCE-2000BCE, and since 2000 BCE my ancestors became in what's now Afghanistan and India lol.
                I lost in such BS which I think is made up, supported by jewish supremacy. Some time ago I read that in comparison Iranians were more close to jews rather than the Arabs lol and at the bottom of the article it mentioned Cyrus and how ancestors of him were also mixed and how they adapted Hebrew language which remain in Iran until rule of Alexander. lol 450 years of Hebrew tongue as official language of Persians and that I think should be investigated rather than investigating Afghan race.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Nick View Post
                  LOL Ashkenasi LOL as far as I know this was one of the most famous and wealthy Germans in the Roman empire. I just wonder if people would then compare the Ashkenasi with Germans lol there is no difference either. Besides I wonder how does the Afghan race of India was so in comparison similar to them germans? Besides I once paid $180.00 some long long time ago just to see the results, however they also asked the country of my origin, and somehow I was also connected to Europe. LOL I never looked at myself anything close to being European. Date which I was European LOL 20,000 BCE-2000BCE, and since 2000 BCE my ancestors became in what's now Afghanistan and India lol.
                  I lost in such BS which I think is made up, supported by jewish supremacy. Some time ago I read that in comparison Iranians were more close to jews rather than the Arabs lol and at the bottom of the article it mentioned Cyrus and how ancestors of him were also mixed and how they adapted Hebrew language which remain in Iran until rule of Alexander. lol 450 years of Hebrew tongue as official language of Persians and that I think should be investigated rather than investigating Afghan race.

                  not sure what you meant

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Karachi View Post
                    not sure what you meant
                    Dear brother Karachi I was simply referring to what you people call Indian Pathans, please if you have time read the sources, and the individual "Pathans" DNA samples collected in this lab was mainly from Indian Afghans not from Afghanistan, and that this examination was first lead by dude named Navras Jaat calls himself Afridi.

                    Navras
                    LOL he is working for Israeli identity in Afghanistan to prove that Afghanistan is bani Israel supporting the Safivadi or the persian poet of Ray named Naimatuallah settled in Herat was an ambassador of Safivad.

                    I am sure you have heart of his name if not google Naimatuallah Heravi, his theories of Afghan is odd with older Islamic sources. Such as Balkh being the mother of cities and the first dry places where one of Nuh (AS) son's was placed during the great fluid. Yes I am referring to Islamic historian Tabari considered Afghans to be great x2 grandson of Nuh (AS) ie directly related to Sham 10,000-7,000 BCE and where as Juzjani basically basically recorded the native tribes of Ghoristan and regions from South of Amo to Hindus were the great 16th generations of Sham 5000-3000 BCE, but Irani historian of 17th century Naimathuallah in his Mahzan-E-Afgani says Afghans are Bani Israel related 2000-800 BCE back to first king of Israel, an unverified grandson of Saul named Afghana. lol King Saul (Who was some how related to Yaqub (AS) according to him only had two sons Jaremai and Afghana lol to me as well as dozen of Muslim historians this Shia Naimatuallah's Afghana being son of Saul is artificial, which was why Afghans are differ from Iranian dominated Shias ie Safivads and always at conflict.
                    Anyways up to this date no such record was found. However some Jews says that Afghans might be mixture of 10 lost tribes---> this view is also supported in Pakistan, Iran as well as by Mullah Omar. The notion of Bani Israel came famous during the times when Afghans were eager to gain power specially over rich India and the founder Mahmud of Suri was perhaps the beginning.



                    Navras Aafreedi
                    Dr Navras Jaat Aafreedi

                    BA Medieval & Modern History(Lucknow)

                    MA Medieval & Modern Indian History (Lucknow)

                    PhD "The Indian Jewry and the Self-Professed ‘Lost Tribes of Israel in India" (Lucknow)

                    Visiting Research Fellow

                    Dr Aafreedi is a Research/Faculty Associate in International Relations at the School of Social Sciences & Buddhist Studies, Gautam Buddha University, Greater Noida, Gautam Buddha Nagar, India, and author of the e-book (CD-Rom) The Indian Jewry and the Self-Professed 'Lost Tribes of Israel' in India, 2006, which embodies his doctoral thesis.

                    Dr. Navras Jaat Aafreedi is a Researcher in Indo-Judaic Studies. He is also a Member of the Advisory Team of "The Ten Lost Tribes Challenge: Expeditions of Discovery" (A series of research expeditions to various groups around the world, who consider themselves, or considered by others, to be descendants of the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel.)

                    He earned his Ph.D. from the Department of Medieval & Modern Indian History, University of Lucknow in 2005, followed by post-doctorate from the Graduate School of Historical Studies, Tel Aviv University in 2007, supported by a scholarship from the Israeli Government and a supplementary grant from the Tel Aviv University. He is the first person to make any worthwhile contributions to Jewish Studies in the Urdu language, the lingua franca of almost all South Asian Muslims. He also writes in English and Hindi.

                    Research

                    Dr Aafreedi will be developing his ongoing groundbreaking research into Jewish-Muslim relations in South Asia and how the South Asian Muslim attitudes towards Jews affect the Muslim-Jewish relations across the world. It will strive to understand the factors that shape the Muslim perceptions of Jews, considering the fact that most of the Muslims in South Asia have had no direct contact with Jews because of their small numbers.
                    Last edited by Nick; 07-11-2011, 12:56 AM.
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                        • #13
                          Dont trust Jews, most of them are bad people
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                          *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

                          Originally posted by Karachi
                          like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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                          • #14
                            This is from Wiki and contains contradictory material. The Y DNA study that is cited there reported that 6.3% of the sample had the J haplogroup (Semitic marker) which contradicts the theory and some other material posted there, in fact that study shows the most common haplogroup in the Pashtun sample was r1a1 which affirms the Scythian connection that this article repudiates, also Mitochondrial DNA is DNA passed on solely from the mother and would be irrelevant to patriarchal people like Pashtuns. I cannot check the sources on the diseases but it looks suspicious to me. And Ashkenazi Jews themselves are likely a mix of Turks, Jews and European peoples so this seems odd to me.

                            It may be possible, and is actually even likely since there is some scanty evidence for it, that the lost tribes migrated to Pashtun lands and became assimilated by Pashtuns; Pashtuns like other peoples in the region are largely mixed but to claim that Pashtuns as a people are literally the lost tribe is nonsense. For one Pashto as a language has little to no Semitic features, surely if Pashtuns as a whole were once a Semitic speaking people they would have preserved some features of something resembling Hebrew or Semitic languages in general but that isnt the case.
                            Last edited by Guest; 07-12-2011, 11:45 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Manzareh View Post
                              Dont trust Jews, most of them are bad people
                              there are many muslims have jews origin.there is nothing wrong with that.
                              you need to know the jews and isrealistics origin.



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