Dr Professor Shaheen Sardar Ali versus Gadoonwal

[Toramana]

Dr. Shaheen Sardar Ali is a Professor of Law at Warwick University and originally is from the Paracha family of Mingawara, Swat....Gadoonwal on the other hand is a socha Puhktun of Gadoon Amazai...

Here is the profile of Shaheen Sardar Ali ...

http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/la.../academic/ali/

And as you all know, Gadoonwal has told us all about his background...Now compare and tell us, who is how much worth....

[Nokia_Apridy]

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[Toramana]

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[Nokia_Apridy]

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[gadoonwal]

torabana sb or paracha sb.


first of all good luck to her.

could you explain what she did for pashtu and pashtuns?
i do not have the authority to change the history of ,,parachas and daman type,,,to a new pashtun tribe.
pashtuns are trible people with its own history.The non-pashtun such as kasagars,parachis etc living in pashtun land should be thankful to their pashtun.
We do not have these parachis etc in our area but met many of them and i can tell you they are the most pakipied and anti-pashtun people i have seen.
They even sell their daughters to punjabis and bring shame for the yousufzais of swat.
There may be some pashtunists kasabgars too but most of them are not.
I do not hate them but will never except them as a true pashtuns.

torabana ,i was right about you then

[emkhan]

torabana sb or paracha sb.


first of all good luck to her.

could you explain what she did for pashtu and pashtuns?
i do not have the authority to change the history of ,,parachas and daman type,,,to a new pashtun tribe.
pashtuns are trible people with its own history.The non-pashtun such as kasagars,parachis etc living in pashtun land should be thankful to their pashtun.
We do not have these parachis etc in our area but met many of them and i can tell you they are the most pakipied and anti-pashtun people i have seen.
They even sell their daughters to punjabis and bring shame for the yousufzais of swat.
There may be some pashtunists kasabgars too but most of them are not.
I do not hate them but will never except them as a true pashtuns.

torabana ,i was right about you then

Yes you are right. Parachas are the most anti pashtun i know this from my personal experience. I have a friend in mingora, he is also paracha. So he told me directly that his father said that never do business with pukhtuns. and this really shocked me and i said nothing to him... and he said such on my face feeling no shame.

[gadoonwal]

Yes you are right. Parachas are the most anti pashtun i know this from my personal experience. I have a friend in mingora, he is also paracha. So he told me directly that his father said that never do business with pukhtuns. and this really shocked me and i said nothing to him... and he said such on my face feeling no shame.

swat is owned by yousufzais.The parachis came later to this region.
The yousufzais are the land owner.Like i said they should be thankful to pashtuns but they will love to see the down fall of pashtuns.


The parachis are the most selfish,greedy people.
They owned many top businesses in mingawara,lieng and looting the people.They are everywhere in major towns of pashtunkhwa.
they will do chaplosi and later turn against you.

[emkhan]

swat is owned by yousufzais.The parachis came later to this region.
The yousufzais are the land owner.Like i said they should be thankful to pashtuns but they will love to see the down fall of pashtuns.


The parachis are the most selfish,greedy people.
They owned many top businesses in mingawara,lieng and looting the people.They are everywhere in major towns of pashtunkhwa.
they will do chaplosi and later turn against you.

Exactly.... but i wonder how do you know my people from so close ?

[Toramana]

torabana sb or paracha sb.


first of all good luck to her.

could you explain what she did for pashtu and pashtuns?
i do not have the authority to change the history of ,,parachas and daman type,,,to a new pashtun tribe.
pashtuns are trible people with its own history.The non-pashtun such as kasagars,parachis etc living in pashtun land should be thankful to their pashtun.
We do not have these parachis etc in our area but met many of them and i can tell you they are the most pakipied and anti-pashtun people i have seen.
They even sell their daughters to punjabis and bring shame for the yousufzais of swat.
There may be some pashtunists kasabgars too but most of them are not.
I do not hate them but will never except them as a true pashtuns.

torabana ,i was right about you then

You are at full liberty to call or consider me whatever you like. Obviously, you are the least qualified looking at the share level of imaturity you have shown here to decide the social status of someone. Remeber earlier you also called Swatis to be baighairat and Pakified and ridiculed Pashtuns of Afghanistan for adopting Dari language in Nimrouz forgetting that your own tribe is now almost entirely Hindko speaking as rightly reminded to you by someone in that thread.

Believe me, although a Pashtuns, I consider it nobler to stand alongside the weaker ones instead of siding with those that are gloating in vain tribal pride. If the concept of Pashtunwali or identity is your style, then to hell with Pashtuns and Pashtunwali.

Also, if faced with a situation to chose between a noble, refined, sophisticated, humble non-Pashtun or a Pashtun exalting in vain tribal splender, I will prefer the former for sure.

[gadoonwal]

Exactly.... but i wonder how do you know my people from so close ?

i have been to almost every part of pashtunkhwa.In fact in swat i spend less time compare to other areas.I like to know about the people,origin and history.I chat with masharans,locals and historains.Reading books.

[emkhan]

i have been to almost every part of pashtunkhwa.In fact in swat i spend less time compare to other areas.I like to know about the people,origin and history.I chat with masharans,locals and historains.Reading books.

hmmm nice.. I would really like to meet you some day in my life inshallah

[Toramana]

I don't know Parachas much but I met three Parachas in life. I have met Madam Shaheen Sardar Ali and Kamran Khan of Mingawara whom we met and dined with. He is a learned and refined person and I liked the way he served us food. In Mingawara, there was another Paracha with the name Chacha Karim Bakhsh. He established a fund to award prizes to authors of best books written in Pashto prose and poetry every year.

I am yet to see any nar Pashtun of Swat having done that.

The third Paracha that I met is the son of Dr Bilal the well-known Eurologist of Peshawar...A very smart man...And by the way he is the nephew of Air Chief Marshal Abbas Khan Khattak the ex-air chief of Pakistan (i.e. the sister of Abbas Khattak is the wife of Dr. Bilal). This deflates your claim that Pashtuns don't enter into marriage relations with non-Pashtuns.

[gadoonwal]

You are at full liberty to call or consider me whatever you like. Obviously, you are the least qualified looking at the share level of imaturity you have shown here to decide the social status of someone. Remeber earlier you also called Swatis to be baighairat and Pakified and ridiculed Pashtuns of Afghanistan for adopting Dari language in Nimrouz forgetting that your own tribe is now almost entirely Hindko speaking as rightly reminded to you by someone in that thread.

Believe me, although a Pashtuns, I consider it nobler to stand alongside the weaker ones instead of siding with those that are gloating in vain tribal pride. If the concept of Pashtunwali or identity is your style, then to hell with Pashtuns and Pashtunwali.

Also, if faced with a situation to chose between a noble, refined, sophisticated, humble non-Pashtun or a Pashtun exalting in vain tribal splender, I will prefer the former for sure.

i did,nt creat a thread against you but you did that show how low life you are.
I only condem those pashtuns speaking dari in farah etc and never disrespect them.
My entire tribe speak pashtu and follow more pashtunwali then your seven generation.Come and see with your own eye to gadoon/swabi.Yes ,there are some ,,khans,, of our tribe living in abaot abad migrated there centuries ago speaks khindko . Do,nt you know that there are lodhis,tareens,takhirkhelis,uthmanzais(sub-tribe of yousufzais) (in haripore) and abot abad speak khindko?
Even some popalzais and kakars speaks hindko in abot abad area.
So is that mean all kakaran,tareenan,uthmanzais etc speak khindko.?

grow up and get some life.
zaan na de hasai ,,chamni khan,, jod kari de.

[emkhan]

I don't know Parachas much but I met three Parachas in life. I have met Madam Shaheen Sardar Ali and Kamran Khan of Mingawara whom we met and dined with. He is a learned and refined person and I liked the way he served us food. In Mingawara, there was another Paracha with name Chacha Karim Bakhsh. He has established a fund to award prizes to authors of best books written in Pashto prose and poetry every year.

I am yet to see any nar Pashtun of Swat having done that.

The third Paracha that I met is the son of Dr Bilal the well-known Eurologist of Peshawar...A very smart man...And by the way he is the nephew of Air Chief Marshal Abbas Khan Khattak the ex-air chief of Pakistan (i.e. the sister of Abbas Khattak is the wife of Dr. Bilal). This deflates your claim that Pashtuns don't enter into marriage relations with non-Pashtuns.

I wish you could have the guts to meet a Pukhtun. But though you are not a Pukhtun thats why you feel happy to be in the company of those non pukhtuns. you are actually a food lover so you look at people's plates rather than their foreheads.
You better quit talking about Pukhtuns here on pf and start some other work ... oh yeah i forgot your profession... you should go and post some songs.

[Toramana]

I also have been to Nawan Shahar, Damthor, etc. inhabited by Hindko-speaking Jadoons. By the way, these Jadoons have heavily intermarried with neighbouring non-Pashtun people like Dhond, Mirs, etc.

In Qaud-i-Azam University, we had few Jadoons from Hazaras as University fellows. They had their own Hazar Students front and would not mix with Pashtuns or be member of Pashtun students association. I had observed they were more happy with Potoharis and other Punjabis, Kashmiris besides being very hostile to Pashtuns.