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  • #16
    somebody needs to remind the moron that a significant portion of qandahar's population is based on the hazara community and unlike some, afghans don't live to look down at each other like a bunch of dogs.

    I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

    non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by akhan View Post
      Hum, this sounds really racist. The prophet Muhammed PBUH said O people, Remember that your Lord is One. An Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a black has no superiority over white, nor a white has any superiority over black, except by piety and good action (Taqwa). Indeed the best among you is the one with the best character (Taqwa). Listen to me. Did I convey this to you properly? People responded, Yes. O messenger of God, The Prophet then said, then each one of you who is there must convey this to everyone not present. (Excerpt from the Prophet's Last Sermon as in Baihiqi)

      "O people, know that the Lord and Sustainer is One. Your ancestor is one, your faith is one. The Arabism of anyone of you is not from your mother or father. It is no more than a tongue (language). Whoever speaks Arabic is an Arab." (As quoted in Islam The Natural Way by Abdul Wahid Hamid p. 125)

      You see what I mean, clear Arab Imperialism. Arabs are Arabs, They are a semitic people originated from Arabia, We are Pashtuns and we are not SEMITIC NOR ARABS.

      You say whoever speaks Arabic is an Arab just to work against Pashtuns and Pashto.

      If you care so much about Pashtuns then why use Islam to justify giving away our peghlay to non Pashtuns and then speak about yourself as a Proud Pashtun. Again these people such as Akhan want to spread this same problem Punjabis Have with their identity, they want to push this Arab agenda upon us all so we all speak like Arabs and become and dress like Arabs.

      Kind Regards

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      • #18
        How can you expect to see the Pashtun progress and unify when you give our children producers to Arabs,Punjabis, Hazaras and Tajiks? We are already identitles and now people such as Akhan want to push this Arab agenda upon us all and call us Arabs instead of Pashtuns.

        I dont know about you guys, but if people want to experience how being a Arab is, go to Dubai and work as low paid labourer and say to your fellow Arab how much does he love you and you will get a good response from your fellow Arabic speaker

        Kind Regards

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        • #19
          Originally posted by BehavedMaseed View Post
          How can you expect to see the Pashtun progress and unify when you give our children producers to Arabs,Punjabis, Hazaras and Tajiks? We are already identitles and now people such as Akhan want to push this Arab agenda upon us all and call us Arabs instead of Pashtuns.

          I dont know about you guys, but if people want to experience how being a Arab is, go to Dubai and work as low paid labourer and say to your fellow Arab how much does he love you and you will get a good response from your fellow Arabic speaker

          Kind Regards
          The Prophet PBUH was the best example for mankind. This is to set an example that Arabs in the time of the Prophet were racist and he was trying to bring light to the fact that noone is better than another human being except for Taqwa of Allah.

          I am not Arab to push the Arab idealism, I am a Muslim looking at the Prophet to set examples that we only wish or dream to be able to follow, at least myself anway.

          The reason I used the hadith about whoever speaks Arabic is an arab, than I question whoever speaks Pashto, does that make him pukhtun or pukhtana? Something to ponder. Maybe it is more than blood and more of your heart and attitude and desire for the culture and language that make you pushtun.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by akhan View Post
            The Prophet PBUH was the best example for mankind. This is to set an example that Arabs in the time of the Prophet were racist and he was trying to bring light to the fact that noone is better than another human being except for Taqwa of Allah.

            I am not Arab to push the Arab idealism, I am a Muslim looking at the Prophet to set examples that we only wish or dream to be able to follow, at least myself anway.

            The reason I used the hadith about whoever speaks Arabic is an arab, than I question whoever speaks Pashto, does that make him pukhtun or pukhtana? Something to ponder. Maybe it is more than blood and more of your heart and attitude and desire for the culture and language that make you pushtun.
            If we follow people such as you who uses Islam to justify things then you will be the first to oppose the unification of Pashtuns as it will divide Muslims of Pakistan. Its a Natural thing for people such as you to think like.

            You are an advocade of Arab cultural Imperialism by saying If somebody speaks Arabic makes them Arab.

            Pashtun is Pashtun. A Pashtun speaks Pushto, is part of the Pashtun tribes and is from the Pashtun region. People who speak Pushto but are not part of the Pashtun tribes can not be considered as being or a Pashtun.

            If you want to use Prophets teachings here then I put a hadith on the relgion section that says day of judgement will only come when Jews are slaughtered. Islam should not be the key to judge ones Pashtuness.

            Kind Regards

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            • #21
              Originally posted by akhan View Post
              The Prophet PBUH was the best example for mankind. This is to set an example that Arabs in the time of the Prophet were racist and he was trying to bring light to the fact that noone is better than another human being except for Taqwa of Allah.

              I am not Arab to push the Arab idealism, I am a Muslim looking at the Prophet to set examples that we only wish or dream to be able to follow, at least myself anway.

              The reason I used the hadith about whoever speaks Arabic is an arab, than I question whoever speaks Pashto, does that make him pukhtun or pukhtana? Something to ponder. Maybe it is more than blood and more of your heart and attitude and desire for the culture and language that make you pushtun.

              But your Prophet says Non Muslims are not equal, so how is he the best example for mankind.

              Kind Regards

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              • #22
                I would just ask you that you do not degrade or make remarks about my/our religion or Prophet as I would show you the same respect. We are fasting this month.
                Last edited by Guest; 08-24-2010, 11:18 AM.

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                • #23
                  if a pashtun give your daughter to a non pashtun(e.g. Punjabi, mirpuri etc) then you are a dala.
                  a 100% Pashtun to me is someone who can speak pashto, have pashtun parents and follow pashtunwali.

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                  • #24
                    To me a 100% Pashtun (these days) is the one who is rascist and is proud of himself when he is nothing
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Saifullah View Post
                      To me a 100% Pashtun (these days) is the one who is rascist and is proud of himself when he is nothing
                      you don't have to be racist, just follow your culture and don't lose your language.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Master Khan View Post
                        if a pashtun give your daughter to a non pashtun(e.g. Punjabi, mirpuri etc) then you are a dala.
                        a 100% Pashtun to me is someone who can speak pashto, have pashtun parents and follow pashtunwali.
                        Taso ghude khalak mong insanano k na shmero nor ye kho preda. NEXT TIME YOU CALL MY GRANDFATHER A DALA, I WILLGIVE YOU SUMTHING TO REMEMBER ME FOR A LIFE TIME.

                        I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

                        non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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                        • #27
                          @Mastera

                          You are no better than him. Do you remember what I said to him or shall I remind you?
                          Last edited by Guest; 08-24-2010, 09:23 PM. Reason: quote

                          I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

                          non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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                          • #28
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                            Last edited by Michin Khel; 08-24-2010, 02:35 PM. Reason: i did'nt properly read post of master khan, i thought he was calling her mum prostitue. sorry master khan

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                            • #29
                              Master Khana

                              Pa reez aow Pa reez ta aslee Pukhtun gwanay jorray zay

                              You are great. mara Pm me your email add, I really like your views and opinions.

                              Dont bow down to those who insult our pashtun identity.

                              Kind regards

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by BehavedMaseed View Post
                                If you care so much about Pashtuns then why use Islam to justify giving away our peghlay to non Pashtuns and then speak about yourself as a Proud Pashtun.
                                That's because for some Pukhtoons their children's happiness is a much greater deal than their so-called 'nang' and 'ghairat'. A beghairat is someone who out of shame would only give away his daughter to a Pukhtoon, even if she is unhappy with it and when she will be the one suffering the rest of her life; Not her father and nor his so-called ghairat!

                                Originally posted by Master Khan View Post
                                if a pashtun give your daughter to a non pashtun(e.g. Punjabi, mirpuri etc) then you are a dala.
                                a 100% Pashtun to me is someone who can speak pashto, have pashtun parents and follow pashtunwali.
                                All my aunts are married to non-Pukhtoons, children of all of them only speak Pukhto and English and the younger ones even think they are Pukhtoon. They follow Islam, they finished the Quran-e-Sharif when they were twelve, they love Pukhto and our culture. So still, my grandfather is a (Khudai Nakhasta) a 'dala' for marrying his daughters off to men who respect Pukhto and Pukhtoons much more than a Pukhtoon man married to a Tajik would? Seriously, have a little shame!

                                Originally posted by DaZahroJaam View Post
                                NEXT TIME YOU CALL MY GRANDFATHER A DALA, I WILLGIVE YOU SUMTHING TO REMEMBER ME FOR A LIFE TIME.
                                I thought you were a Pukhtana? ^_^
                                Gar Jahanum Sakhtam Ferdaws Ham Mesazamat

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