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  • #46
    Originally posted by Charsi Malang View Post
    I found the opposite when I was in Peshawar. I remember going in to a bookshop or a clothes shop wearing just khat partoog and "kerrai" with my cousin. We were followed around by the security guard like we were on a wanted list. We weren't being loud or disruptive and we weren't armed either

    Although Pashtuns are a very proud people I have found that back home if you dress in western clothing you do get treated better. If you dress like a poor person then you aren't treated well at all.
    You must be followed by security for different reason.

    Pashtuns are not fascinated by Pant-shirts and the dress of their ruling elites, intelligentsia, wealthy and educated classes is Khat partoog.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Charsi Malang View Post
      I found the opposite when I was in Peshawar. I remember going in to a bookshop or a clothes shop wearing just khat partoog and "kerrai" with my cousin. We were followed around by the security guard like we were on a wanted list. We weren't being loud or disruptive and we weren't armed either

      Although Pashtuns are a very proud people I have found that back home if you dress in western clothing you do get treated better. If you dress like a poor person then you aren't treated well at all.
      In my village people stare at you if you wear western clothes.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Traveller View Post
        I don't see how traditional dress would be looked upon. Even in Peshawar, the most modernized and desified pashtun area, you have to look around quite a bit to find someone wearing patloon. The only people who wear it in villages are small kids, everyone else wears proper Pashtun clothes. This is from my experience in the districts of Nowshera, Swabi, and Peshawari; Kohat is less modernized so I would expect more Kameez Partoog there. As for traditional footwear, our traditional sapplai have become so widespread that even Punjabis are wearing them.
        As @Samandri has said, the situation in cities such as Islamabad and Lahore is different. When I arrived in Lahore from Peshawar I was taken aback by the number of people wearing western clothes.
        Indeed. In Peshawar city wearing Patloon wont attract stares yet most of the people are sticking to kamees partoog. As pointed out by toughpashtun the ones wearing patloon in the city are usually youngsters or kids as pointed out by you. But even most of the youngsters prefer kamees partoog, and that can be observed in Peshawar university where majority of the students of every category wear kamees partoog while only minority wear jeans or pant shirts. Doctors are counted as highly educated in upper middle class, how many of them in Pakhtunkhwa wear Pant shirts? only few. If elites of Pakhtunkhwa are wearing kamees partoog then its a sign that its not associated with poor and poverty. Saifullah family of my district, among the wealthiest in Pakistan, have to wear kamees partoog and wasket (and lungai when occasion demands) when they are in Lakki Marwat. They can not wear Pant shirts in Marwat area even though they do wear it outside Pakhtunkhwa.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by toughpashtun View Post
          Not everyone wears it though. Its quite possible to be there for two weeks and not see anyone in Western dress.Especially if you didn't spend that much time in the restaurants, cafes etc where the young crowd is mostly.
          Even in places where there a lot of young people you will see that even the vast majority of the young people are wearing kameez partoog. I went to chief burger two times last time I was in Peshawar(chief burger is amazing btw) and I don't recall anyone who wasn't wearing kameez partoog besides employees.
          Originally posted by Kaushika

          majority of Hilly Rajputs are the product of these cross breeding and want to disassociate with their past. rajputs with rajwadi surnames consider themeselves superior but those native kings who look darker gets mocked as "gola" (mix breed, son of rakhile) so they actually invite light skinned rajputs and kshatriya tribes from Jammu region such as jamwals to sleep with their women so that their wives can give birth to pure white looking Native Child.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Charsi Malang View Post
            I found the opposite when I was in Peshawar. I remember going in to a bookshop or a clothes shop wearing just khat partoog and "kerrai" with my cousin. We were followed around by the security guard like we were on a wanted list. We weren't being loud or disruptive and we weren't armed either

            Although Pashtuns are a very proud people I have found that back home if you dress in western clothing you do get treated better. If you dress like a poor person then you aren't treated well at all.
            I would bet all my belongings that the majority of the people in whatever store you went to were wearing kamee partoog and many of them were also probably wearing kerrai. If they had to follow you for wearing kameez partoog then they would have to follow 99% of people in Peshawar city.
            Originally posted by Kaushika

            majority of Hilly Rajputs are the product of these cross breeding and want to disassociate with their past. rajputs with rajwadi surnames consider themeselves superior but those native kings who look darker gets mocked as "gola" (mix breed, son of rakhile) so they actually invite light skinned rajputs and kshatriya tribes from Jammu region such as jamwals to sleep with their women so that their wives can give birth to pure white looking Native Child.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Samandri View Post
              ..... Saifullah family of my district, among the wealthiest in Pakistan, have to wear kamees partoog and wasket (and lungai when occasion demands) when they are in Lakki Marwat. They can not wear Pant shirts in Marwat area even though they do wear it outside Pakhtunkhwa.
              I know the Saifullahs , and believe me they are some of the most modernized Pashtuns you will come across in Pakistan. Still , I have observed that they usually wear kamees partog here in Islamabad.This goes on to show that [MENTION=18842]Samandri[/MENTION] is right when he says that the Pashtun wealthy elite class do not consider wearing traditional dress as an insult.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Traveller View Post
                I would bet all my belongings that the majority of the people in whatever store you went to were wearing kamee partoog and many of them were also probably wearing kerrai. If they had to follow you for wearing kameez partoog then they would have to follow 99% of people in Peshawar city.
                Trust me on this one. The twat was behind us like a shadow. I don't know why but I could only put it down to the way we were dressed.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Charsi Malang View Post
                  Trust me on this one. The twat was behind us like a shadow. I don't know why but I could only put it down to the way we were dressed.
                  He might've suspected you came from abroad. Perhaps he was doing some scouting to see if you could be ransomed.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Charsi Malang View Post
                    I found the opposite when I was in Peshawar. I remember going in to a bookshop or a clothes shop wearing just khat partoog and "kerrai" with my cousin. We were followed around by the security guard like we were on a wanted list. We weren't being loud or disruptive and we weren't armed either

                    Although Pashtuns are a very proud people I have found that back home if you dress in western clothing you do get treated better. If you dress like a poor person then you aren't treated well at all.
                    Im guessing it was the khat partoog. I dont thing ive ever seen someone dressed in khat partoog so id be curious too. Couldnt be kerrai cuz everyone wears that in peshawasr

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Nekrofrost View Post
                      Im guessing it was the khat partoog. I dont thing ive ever seen someone dressed in khat partoog so id be curious too. Couldnt be kerrai cuz everyone wears that in peshawasr
                      It might have been the style of kerrai and the scarf I was wearing too.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Charsi Malang View Post
                        It might have been the style of kerrai and the scarf I was wearing too.
                        Btw where does one get a khat partug? I kinda want one but i dont think ive seen a store in peshawar where they sell tjose.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Nekrofrost View Post
                          Btw where does one get a khat partug? I kinda want one but i dont think ive seen a store in peshawar where they sell tjose.
                          Mostly they are made. But ready made ones are easily available as well. They are not hard to come by at all.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Nekrofrost View Post
                            Im guessing it was the khat partoog. I dont thing ive ever seen someone dressed in khat partoog so id be curious too. Couldnt be kerrai cuz everyone wears that in peshawasr
                            I pretty sure khat partoog and kamees partoog are the same thing.
                            Originally posted by Kaushika

                            majority of Hilly Rajputs are the product of these cross breeding and want to disassociate with their past. rajputs with rajwadi surnames consider themeselves superior but those native kings who look darker gets mocked as "gola" (mix breed, son of rakhile) so they actually invite light skinned rajputs and kshatriya tribes from Jammu region such as jamwals to sleep with their women so that their wives can give birth to pure white looking Native Child.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Charsi Malang View Post
                              It might have been the style of kerrai and the scarf I was wearing too.
                              A lot of people in Peshawar wear those scarves.
                              Originally posted by Kaushika

                              majority of Hilly Rajputs are the product of these cross breeding and want to disassociate with their past. rajputs with rajwadi surnames consider themeselves superior but those native kings who look darker gets mocked as "gola" (mix breed, son of rakhile) so they actually invite light skinned rajputs and kshatriya tribes from Jammu region such as jamwals to sleep with their women so that their wives can give birth to pure white looking Native Child.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Traveller View Post
                                I pretty sure khat partoog and kamees partoog are the same thing.
                                Isnt khat supposed to be the girda laman wala kameez partug? The kind that people back in the day used to wear or professional attan dacers wear?

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