Questions about wearing of pattkay(turban).

[torkham]

What are some places in Peshawar where you can buy a longai. And isn't wearing gold haram for men?

Gold and silk is haram. Gold ring for example is clearly haram.
A kulla with thread that is decorated with gold coloured thread same as gold ring or jewellry?????

[torkham]

What are some places in Peshawar where you can buy a longai. And isn't wearing gold haram for men?

I don't remember the name of the bazar but it was near a galli in the shar where almost every shop sold 'peshawari' tsapal, 'charsadda' tsapal.

[Charsi Malang]

What are some places in Peshawar where you can buy a longai. And isn't wearing gold haram for men?

They are not difficult to come by. Very easy in fact in Peshawar and other major cities. The gold used is not real gold. It's only gold coloured thread.

[Charsi Malang]

Jamadar means servant basically. The emphasis is on the lower class nature of the individual. It's used interchangeably with chiprhasi, maasi, naukar, etc.

As for the jeans and T-shirt, lol... never heard that one. Usually people wear suits and/or shalwar kamiz for weddings.

Very interesting. So it basically shows the mindset of the younger children in our "seema". Traditional attire is viewed as something associated with the lowers classes. LOL. I think in our areas jeans and t shirt are viewed as a sign of affluence and being "modern".

I was back home roughly last year and wearing certain footwear and a Shem agh scarf (we call it "katra"),when I went to a friends shop. He asked me if I had been stopped by police. I said no, and he
started laughing. I asked him why, and he said that wearing that footwear was a sure way to get stopped and searched. LOL.

[Traveller]

I don't remember the name of the bazar but it was near a galli in the shar where almost every shop sold 'peshawari' tsapal, 'charsadda' tsapal.

I think I know the place you're talking about. I bought a pair of sapplai from there last summer.

[Samandri]

Very interesting. So it basically shows the mindset of the younger children in our "seema". Traditional attire is viewed as something associated with the lowers classes. LOL. I think in our areas jeans and t shirt are viewed as a sign of affluence and being "modern".

I was back home roughly last year and wearing certain footwear and a Shem agh scarf (we call it "katra"),when I went to a friends shop. He asked me if I had been stopped by police. I said no, and he
started laughing. I asked him why, and he said that wearing that footwear was a sure way to get stopped and searched. LOL.

In our area if some one wear Jeans and t-shirts, he will be ridiculed for it and will be subjected to stares. You might be even called "kotanry" (a derogatory term for indics) or "punjapay".......in my area pant shirts and clean shaved face is associated with Punjabis and the only locals who wear such dress are Police.

Pashtuns, unlike Punjabis, do not associate traditional attire with lower classes and hold it in high esteem. All the upper classes and wealthy people of Pakhtunkhwa wear traditional attire. Even in Peshawar, most of the people wear Shalwar Kameez unlike Punjabi cities and Karachi. Punjabis are ashamed of both dhoti kurta (their original dress) and Shalwar kameez (adopted from Afghans).

[toughpashtun]

In our area if some one wear Jeans and t-shirts, he will be ridiculed for it and will be subjected to stares. You might be even called "kotanry" (a derogatory term for indics) or "punjapay".......in my area pant shirts and clean shaved face is associated with Punjabis and the only locals who wear such dress are Police.

Pashtuns, unlike Punjabis, do not associate traditional attire with lower classes and hold it in high esteem. All the upper classes and wealthy people of Pakhtunkhwa wear traditional attire. Even in Peshawar, most of the people wear Shalwar Kameez unlike Punjabi cities and Karachi. Punjabis are ashamed of both dhoti kurta (their original dress) and Shalwar kameez (adopted from Afghans).

I'm sure that in your area (Lakki Marwat) the police wear uniform when on duty and otherwise even they will not wear pant-shirt.
In Peshawar you can get by with jeans/pant and t-shirts.

[Traveller]

Very interesting. So it basically shows the mindset of the younger children in our "seema". Traditional attire is viewed as something associated with the lowers classes. LOL. I think in our areas jeans and t shirt are viewed as a sign of affluence and being "modern".

I was back home roughly last year and wearing certain footwear and a Shem agh scarf (we call it "katra"),when I went to a friends shop. He asked me if I had been stopped by police. I said no, and he
started laughing. I asked him why, and he said that wearing that footwear was a sure way to get stopped and searched. LOL.

I don't see how traditional dress would be looked upon. Even in Peshawar, the most modernized and desified pashtun area, you have to look around quite a bit to find someone wearing patloon. The only people who wear it in villages are small kids, everyone else wears proper Pashtun clothes. This is from my experience in the districts of Nowshera, Swabi, and Peshawari; Kohat is less modernized so I would expect more Kameez Partoog there. As for traditional footwear, our traditional sapplai have become so widespread that even Punjabis are wearing them.
As [MENTION=18842]Samandri[/MENTION] has said, the situation in cities such as Islamabad and Lahore is different. When I arrived in Lahore from Peshawar I was taken aback by the number of people wearing western clothes.

[Traveller]

I'm sure that in your area (Lakki Marwat) the police wear uniform when on duty and otherwise even they will not wear pant-shirt.
In Peshawar you can get by with jeans/pant and t-shirts.

I think some police actually have a shalwar kameez version of the uniform.

[maneatinglizard]

I'm sure that in your area (Lakki Marwat) the police wear uniform when on duty and otherwise even they will not wear pant-shirt.
In Peshawar you can get by with jeans/pant and t-shirts.

What parts? When I visited a couple of years ago, I don't think I saw anyone wearing western clothing unless they were in uniform. I was actually a little surprised because of the way Western media portrays Afghanistan/Pashtunistan, and because western clothing isn't rare in the Arab countries I've been to.

[toughpashtun]

I think some police actually have a shalwar kameez version of the uniform.

That the Frontier Constabulary.They wear black shalwar kameez and are a paramilitary law enforcement force and their duties are similar to police.

[toughpashtun]

What parts? When I visited a couple of years ago, I don't think I saw anyone wearing western clothing unless they were in uniform. I was actually a little surprised because of the way Western media portrays Afghanistan/Pashtunistan, and because western clothing isn't rare in the Arab countries I've been to.

In Peshawar you'll find the educated class wearing Western clothing.More common among youngsters.In other districts of the province you won't find this.

[maneatinglizard]

In Peshawar you'll find the educated class wearing Western clothing.More common among youngsters.In other districts of the province you won't find this.

Interesting. I was in Peshawar for 2 weeks but can't remember seeing anyone outside of the military and police wearing Western clothing.

[toughpashtun]

Interesting. I was in Peshawar for 2 weeks but can't remember seeing anyone outside of the military and police wearing Western clothing.

Not everyone wears it though. Its quite possible to be there for two weeks and not see anyone in Western dress.Especially if you didn't spend that much time in the restaurants, cafes etc where the young crowd is mostly.

[Charsi Malang]

In our area if some one wear Jeans and t-shirts, he will be ridiculed for it and will be subjected to stares. You might be even called "kotanry" (a derogatory term for indics) or "punjapay".......in my area pant shirts and clean shaved face is associated with Punjabis and the only locals who wear such dress are Police.

Pashtuns, unlike Punjabis, do not associate traditional attire with lower classes and hold it in high esteem. All the upper classes and wealthy people of Pakhtunkhwa wear traditional attire. Even in Peshawar, most of the people wear Shalwar Kameez unlike Punjabi cities and Karachi. Punjabis are ashamed of both dhoti kurta (their original dress) and Shalwar kameez (adopted from Afghans).

I found the opposite when I was in Peshawar. I remember going in to a bookshop or a clothes shop wearing just khat partoog and "kerrai" with my cousin. We were followed around by the security guard like we were on a wanted list. We weren't being loud or disruptive and we weren't armed either

Although Pashtuns are a very proud people I have found that back home if you dress in western clothing you do get treated better. If you dress like a poor person then you aren't treated well at all.