Questions about wearing of pattkay(turban).

[Traveller]

Isnt khat supposed to be the girda laman wala kameez partug? The kind that people back in the day used to wear or professional attan dacers wear?

What's girda lama wala?

[maneatinglizard]

Isnt khat supposed to be the girda laman wala kameez partug? The kind that people back in the day used to wear or professional attan dacers wear?

Do you mean the ones without slits, like these?



The ones with slits have also been traditional Pashtun clothing since as long as we know, as you can see in this drawing (made sometime in the early 1800's):



On this topic, I wonder where the collars and cuffs on many modern khats/kameeses come from. Are they a recent addition inspired by Western clothing, or were they common in the past too? They're common on Gulf-style thobes too.

I wonder if anyone has old Afghan clothing around. Would be interesting to see their evolution.

[Charsi Malang]

Isnt khat supposed to be the girda laman wala kameez partug? The kind that people back in the day used to wear or professional attan dacers wear?

No brother "khat" means shirt. We say "khat partoog". Desis call it "shalwar kameez".

I think what you are reffering to may be something known as a "ganr" khat which I have never seen.

[Charsi Malang]

Do you mean the ones without slits, like these?



The ones with slits have also been traditional Pashtun clothing since as long as we know, as you can see in this drawing (made sometime in the early 1800's):



On this topic, I wonder where the collars and cuffs on many modern khats/kameeses come from. Are they a recent addition inspired by Western clothing, or were they common in the past too? They're common on Gulf-style thobes too.

I wonder if anyone has old Afghan clothing around. Would be interesting to see their evolution.

Collars and cuffs are a Western thing. I think in the olden day there were no collars and most of the shirts had open sleeves. I would love to know if anyone owns or has ever even seen a "poshteen" which seems to be a pretty Pashtun thing. Used to be very common in the olden days and I know for a fact would keep you toasty warm.

[Nekrofrost]

No brother "khat" means shirt. We say "khat partoog". Desis call it "shalwar kameez".

I think what you are reffering to may be something known as a "ganr" khat which I have never seen.

Thanks that was pretty much what i was confused about.

[Samandri]

'Khat' and 'qamees' are two words for knee length shirt in Pashto, the latter is loanword from Arabic.

[torkham]

What's girda lama wala?

Looks like a frock. Tapered at waist and full skirting to knees. Thankfully no one wears that.

[Nekrofrost]

Weird thing ive noticed about when i wear a patkay, when tie it without a cap on it looks huger but when i wear it with a cap on it looks smaller. What can the reason for this be?

[ذو الفقار]

Afghans usually wear lungee cloth for turban. Lungee cloth is a nice smooth material, but its not meant for turban. A real turban should look crinkly (full of creases and wrinkles) when tightly tied around the Kulla or hard cap. Furthermore, Sunna is to have two ends hanging loose instead of one. Best one is a solid black color.

Also, turban looks very nice if you have zulfain, so turban shouldn't be too large that it eclipses the zulfain.

[Charsi Malang]

Afghans usually wear lungee cloth for turban. Lungee cloth is a nice smooth material, but its not meant for turban. A real turban should look crinkly (full of creases and wrinkles) when tightly tied around the Kulla or hard cap. Furthermore, Sunna is to have two ends hanging loose instead of one. Best one is a solid black color.

Also, turban looks very nice if you have zulfain, so turban shouldn't be too large that it eclipses the zulfain.

I think you're very much mistaken. The Afghan "lungee" has nothing to do with the Desi "lungi". The Turban cloth that is worn by Afghans has been worn for many years and the design is very very old-they don't wear Desi "lungi" cloth as a turban. The cloth that Afghans use for their turbans is suited to that style as it is very light and can look voluminous without being weighty.

Strange how every ethnicity is now also an expert on Afghan clothing.

[ذو الفقار]

I think you're very much mistaken. The Afghan "lungee" has nothing to do with the Desi "lungi". The Turban cloth that is worn by Afghans has been worn for many years and the design is very very old-they don't wear Desi "lungi" cloth as a turban. The cloth that Afghans use for their turbans is suited to that style as it is very light and can look voluminous without being weighty.

Strange how every ethnicity is now also an expert on Afghan clothing.

Yes I'm aware that lungee cloth isn't same as the lungi which Bengalis and Tamils wear around their waist. You misunderstood me. I said lungee cloth is a nice material and very smooth, but the regular cotton fabric for turban is superior because turban should have more visible creases to look more beautiful.

[Charsi Malang]

Yes I'm aware that lungee cloth isn't same as the lungi which Bengalis and Tamils wear around their waist. You misunderstood me. I said lungee cloth is a nice material and very smooth, but the regular cotton fabric for turban is superior because turban should have more visible creases to look more beautiful.

Have you ever seen proper Afghan "lungi" material? I have several and you can get beautiful folds and creases in if if you want.

[ذو الفقار]

Have you ever seen proper Afghan "lungi" material? I have several and you can get beautiful folds and creases in if if you want.

I only like the plain black one which the Taliban tend to wear, not the one with stripes that is green or greyish color. I wander where I could get the plain black lungee cloth.