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Porus was an Indian (Indic) so they do have claim. If they claim him as a Gujarati or Marathi, then its stupid. But if they claim him as an Indian/Indic, then there's nothing wrong with that since that's what he was. Pakistan was only created in 1947 so you can't say he was a Pakistani.
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No but it's like when Iranians claim Rumi when he was born in Balkh. It's not far from the truth but it's a bit cheap. Stick to your own region is what I'm telling this guy.Originally posted by Sarbani View PostPorus was an Indian (Indic) so they do have claim. If they claim him as a Gujarati or Marathi, then its stupid. But if they claim him as an Indian/Indic, then there's nothing wrong with that since that's what he was. Pakistan was only created in 1947 so you can't say he was a Pakistani.
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idiot, he was a kashtriya, your filth coward race have no claim over him, you were just sub human savage for him.Originally posted by Porus View PostI don't mind the tale of a brave and honourable king from the soil. It's just the rest of you that are cucks and frankly just cowards. I could punch a Brahmin in the face and he'd run away scared lol.
Porus was from our side of Punjab anyway, so you have no claim.
he was a proud kashtriya, and only kashtriyas have claim over him, just like mughals were not Indians kashtriyas are not punjabis. punjab is a culture not a race. just like pashtun of punjab is a Pashtun not an Indic.
regarding brahmins, well brahmin shahis and various brahmin kings who ruled over modern day pakistan says different tales, you are just cucks, who got cucked by everyone, from Indics to Iranics, from Arabs to C.Asians. not even a single Empire was founded by pakistan, Pakistanis never ruled themselves, everybody ruled you and your women.
I rest my case, this is my last reply to you, i dont have time for Sub Humans.
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yep, Indian society is a caste based society. Brahmins,Rajputs,Jats,Kashtriyas are different Races of Indic fold.Originally posted by Sarbani View PostPorus was an Indian (Indic) so they do have claim. If they claim him as a Gujarati or Marathi, then its stupid. But if they claim him as an Indian/Indic, then there's nothing wrong with that since that's what he was. Pakistan was only created in 1947 so you can't say he was a Pakistani.
Gujarati,Marathi,Punjabi,UP walas are just cultures/Language Group not Race.
take me for example.
I am from Kathiywad, so i am a Kathiyawadi by Culture and Brahmin by Race.
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why claim others here ? stick to your own jatt, or muslim rajput hero(if there are any) please. and we are Related to those Brahmin and Kashtriya Rulers who ruled over Natives of Pakistan by Blood,Race,Religion,Culture,Ethnicity,Heritage and even way of Life.Originally posted by Porus View PostNo but it's like when Iranians claim Rumi when he was born in Balkh. It's not far from the truth but it's a bit cheap. Stick to your own region is what I'm telling this guy.
and Iranic is a race, Persians(iranians) over people of balkh(balkh) have no claim over because both are different Races.
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hmm, i know one attock pshtun from history forum, Atanz. he was a ice guy, too bad he got banned there from being Anti Indian.Originally posted by Sarbani View PostThe Pashtuns of Mianwali and Attock seem to still have retained their tribal identity and are culturally Pashtun to a large degree. They still carry specific clan names. I see them as Punjabified Pashtuns, but still mainly Pashtuns.
some bangladesis claims on PDF that whole of Bangladesh is from Turkik,Afghan and perso-Arabian Stock.North Indians are not Pashtun and have nothing to do with us. If North Indians are Pashtun just because they say so, then all those Arab wannabes in Pakistan (Syeds, etc.) are Arabs as well. North Indians (esp. Muslims) and Bangladeshis seem to have a fetish with claiming Pashtun blood similar to how some White Americans fawn over Native American blood.
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They didn't 'rule' over natives as foreigners, Porus was native to Jhelum, not Ayodhya or Rajputnagar. My point rests, stop claiming our hero.Originally posted by Aham Brahmasmi View Postwhy claim others here ? stick to your own jatt, or muslim rajput hero(if there are any) please. and we are Related to those Brahmin and Kashtriya Rulers who ruled over Natives of Pakistan by Blood,Race,Religion,Culture,Ethnicity,Heritage and even way of Life.
You clearly know nothing. Balkhi is not a race. lol so funny to hear Indians talk about history like they know it.and Iranic is a race, Persians(iranians) over people of balkh(balkh) have no claim over because both are different Races.
My ancestors were probably of the same class or caste as he was. Islam wasn't there when Porus was around so how could our ancestors be different for him?Originally posted by Aham Brahmasmi View Postidiot, he was a kashtriya, your filth coward race have no claim over him, you were just sub human savage for him.
Are you from Punjab? If not, then you have no claim over Porus. Stick to your Bengaluru or Tamil Nadu, vegetable eating, wife burning, ****ting-on-the-streets-of-Dehli parasitic existence hahhe was a proud kashtriya, and only kashtriyas have claim over him, just like mughals were not Indians kashtriyas are not punjabis. punjab is a culture not a race. just like pashtun of punjab is a Pashtun not an Indic.
Are you kidding me? Islam could only get it's character from Iran or India (present day Pakistan). We did justice to Islamic civilisation. The greatest poets, scholars and singers come from either Pakistan or India's Muslims. 'Ruled over us' lol. Probably did over your ancestors, certainly not mineregarding brahmins, well brahmin shahis and various brahmin kings who ruled over modern day pakistan says different tales, you are just cucks, who got cucked by everyone, from Indics to Iranics, from Arabs to C.Asians. not even a single Empire was founded by pakistan, Pakistanis never ruled themselves, everybody ruled you and your women.
It's okay I understand Baniyas get angry real easy so I'll let you go lolI rest my case, this is my last reply to you, i dont have time for Sub Humans.
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Lol 'paki ji' Punjab is Indian and its history is Indian history, and anyway there was no "Punjab" until a few hundred years ago. The name "Punjab" was made up by the Turks that ruled India and only came into some more colloquial use during the middle of the Mughal era (17th century) for the Lahore and Multan provinces.Originally posted by Porus View PostAre you from Punjab? If not, then you have no claim over Porus.
The actual map of Punjab was wholly invented by the British at the end of the 19th century for their administrative convenience. That is when "Punjab" became an actual entity. Even Ranjeet Singh and his hairbags didnt call their thiefdom that officially. The British edited the map of Punjab a few different times, the final one being 'made in Britain' in 1901 before they again changed it in 1947 with the "partition" <- the last slap and laugh the "saheebs" gave against their loyal "Punjabi" servants by inventing their identity after 1849 and then tearing it away from them in 1947.
Punjab, aka "Bundjab", the land of the Dalit and raped Dravidian, is as artificial a construct as Pakiland is. Not just the map of it but the name itself is imposed on the natives by foreign ruler. The native identity of these people is not "Punjabi" it is Jat, Chuhra, Gujjar, Awan, and other stinkers. Basically no different from any other Hindu region.
These "desis" always trying to talk down to each other and act like this invisible Radcliffe line invented in 1947 has always existed is a joke.
Dumb@sses, lol.

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How are these people racially any different from the other Dravidians? They are Brahmins.Originally posted by Aham Brahmasmi View Postyep, Indian society is a caste based society. Brahmins,Rajputs,Jats,Kashtriyas are different Races of Indic fold.
Gujarati,Marathi,Punjabi,UP walas are just cultures/Language Group not Race.
take me for example.
I am from Kathiywad, so i am a Kathiyawadi by Culture and Brahmin by Race.
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At least it's apparent that we both are desi. You still haven't revealed your identity on this forum. While that's your privilege to do that, it tells me that you may have that exact inferiority complex you keep claiming we have.Originally posted by Friends of Baloch View Post
[/B]These "desis" always trying to talk down to each other and act like this invisible Radcliffe line invented in 1947 has always existed is a joke.
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Lol Porkistan never produced a single Empire, we Indians always brought these dalit filth under our dominion, mauryas, guptas, Marathas, Senas. All Indian kingdoms came to LUNDJAB and destroyed these puny people. It's because of this inferiority complex to other parts of India that they converted to Islam.
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Porus was a Kshatriya, on the other hand Paki people are 99% Dalit (not you specifically) with some Middle Eastern blood from your conquerors. Porus would spit on average Pakistani if he seen Porkis claiming kinship with him.Originally posted by Porus View PostThey didn't 'rule' over natives as foreigners, Porus was native to Jhelum, not Ayodhya or Rajputnagar. My point rests, stop claiming our hero.
You clearly know nothing. Balkhi is not a race. lol so funny to hear Indians talk about history like they know it.
My ancestors were probably of the same class or caste as he was. Islam wasn't there when Porus was around so how could our ancestors be different for him?
Are you from Punjab? If not, then you have no claim over Porus. Stick to your Bengaluru or Tamil Nadu, vegetable eating, wife burning, ****ting-on-the-streets-of-Dehli parasitic existence hah
Are you kidding me? Islam could only get it's character from Iran or India (present day Pakistan). We did justice to Islamic civilisation. The greatest poets, scholars and singers come from either Pakistan or India's Muslims. 'Ruled over us' lol. Probably did over your ancestors, certainly not mine
It's okay I understand Baniyas get angry real easy so I'll let you go lolLast edited by Hunter; 01-09-2017, 11:44 AM.
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Rumi was an ethnic Persian so their claims aren't too far-fetched. He was an ethnic Persian and they are claiming him as ethnic Persian. Nothing too crazy.Originally posted by Porus View PostNo but it's like when Iranians claim Rumi when he was born in Balkh. It's not far from the truth but it's a bit cheap. Stick to your own region is what I'm telling this guy.
Similarly, Porus was an Indian and Indians are claiming him as an Indian. Don't see why he belongs exclusively to Pakistani Punjabis when back then neither Pakistan nor Punjab existed. Not to mention that he was a Hindu.
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Kakars are actually a very well respected and noble lineage in Afghanistan. I have relatives who are Musa Khel Kakars.Originally posted by Porus View PostI don't know. Why are Kakars such losers?
Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."
Originally posted by ذو الفقارdon’t try to be smart.
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