Pashtuns of Punjab,Sindh and North India.

[Elite Pakhtun]

Anyways im gonna actually try making the topic of the thread relevant again so yeah.
Anyways as far as the pashtuns of anywhere other than the pashtunlands go, as far as they speak and/or are culturally pashtun im gonna consider them pashtun. Hell im also gonna consider a punjabi a pashtun is he speaks and does pashto(unless the dude has the sneaky ******* attitude of most the punjabis ive meth cuz then **** it) cuz thats really what makes us kinda different from the rest imo.

I think the breakdown is as follows:

1) racial: if you look iranic, have fairer skin, and basically look pashtun AND if your parents (both) are Pashtun. You don't need to speak pashto. This is why zarine may be considered, since she looks it, and her parents are Pashtun, even though culturally she is probably 0% like one. There's many Pashtuns who grew up in various cities (even in pakistan), that frankly speak English fluently, other languages are second.
2) paternal lineage: father needs to be from a pashtun tribe. This is less racial, more cultural.

The looks/racial thing is there. A Punjabi who speaks and acts pashtun is still a Punjabi. Even the punjabi will admit it. People don't usually lie about their ethnicity.

[Porus]

I have been told that people from khaybwr believe that afghans in Afghanistan dine with wine, don't know how to pray and have no mosques which is why jahad is rawaah there.

One of my cousin's friends is a Pakhtun, and that's his perception of... well, not Afghans but Kabulis. He told me people there are SUPER liberal.

It's strange. On a whole I find Afghans to be more conservative and religious than Pakistanis, at least when it comes to attitudes towards women, Afghans are more conservative. But whenever I've met an Afghan here in London, they seem pretty chilled out. If they're a bit traditional it's usually on the same level as Indian or Pakistani immigrant families.

Actually Pakistanis here are sometimes overly religious I find. More than the ones back home. I hate it.

[DaZahroJaam.]

The thing about the west is that your lifestyle doesn't interfere with someone else's. I have seen lots of afghans dress up questionably and most of them are from families in which such behaviour is very unpredictable based of how they lived back home but that is alright. To each, their own. From what I have observed of Pakistanis in the west is that they really want to convince you of how religious they are and I don't like that.
You can be as religious as you want (or not), don't use that as an excuse to butt in to the lives of other people. Pakistan can be as liberal or conservative as it pleases, it does not have to decide Afghanistan should be bombed until they are as religious as them. But we all know that's not what this fight is about. Religion is just an excuse to spread terrorism so we can be held back as a nation so that Pakistan can advance while we are destroyed and pushed back in to Stone Age.
It's true that some people in Afghanistan may drink or participate in unethical behaviour just as people do in other corners of the world. It's also true that we have mosques and our children are will aware of what Islam is about. However, we don't knock on other people's doors to force them to come and drink wine with us or we will bomb them to hell.

The reason so many of us live in the west is because we like to have the freedom to live without anyone else telling us how to live. So to live here but support a mindset where people butt in to other people's religious views or way of dressing or living is hypocritical to begin with.

[toughpashtun]

i'll add my two cents here as far as conservativeness and religiosity is concerned.
Again, this is based on my observation and anyone can disagree politely, we don't have to resort to fighting or swearing.

-Tajiks,Farsiwan,Hazara are quite liberal as compared to Pashtuns(both Pakistani as well as Afghan Pashtuns).
-Afghan Pashtuns and Pakistani Pashtuns are on a similar level when it comes to conservativeness.Of course, it depends area to area. A Pashtun living in Kabul will probably be more liberal than a Pashtun living in Waziristan. Similarly, an urbanized Pashtun living in Peshawar might be more liberal than a Pashtun in Paktia or Khost.
-As far as Pakistanis as a whole are concerned(both Punjabi and Pashtun); in recent years there has been the growth of religiosity and observance of outward Islamic teachings(beard,veil etc) possibily due to influence of groups such as Tablighi Jamaat etc.I don't think this is prevalent in Tajiks,Farsiwans etc.

[kanishka]

Some Pashtuns in Sindh, Punjab and North India still practising their pashto language and culture.

More so in Sindh and Punjab.

In india alot of them have lost their culture. Since the india/Pakistan partition, you dont see many pashtun practicisers. Jammu and Kashmir has the most amount , i assume.

but Sindh and Punjab, wave migrations of Pashtuns moving in still occur. so.

[toughpashtun]

Some Pashtuns in Sindh, Punjab and North India still practising their pashto language and culture.

More so in Sindh and Punjab.

In india alot of them have lost their culture. Since the india/Pakistan partition, you dont see many pashtun practicisers. Jammu and Kashmir has the most amount , i assume.

but Sindh and Punjab, wave migrations of Pashtuns moving in still occur. so.

In Sindh and Punjab, which are part of Pakistan , most of the Pashtuns are still connected to their native villages, definitely speak the Pashto language, and follow Pashtun culture as would any urban Pashtun.
In Karachi there are Pashtuns who moved there two or three generations ago but the current generation still speaks Pashto etc.
Can't speak for the Pashtuns living in India.
My understanding is that, and I may be wrong, that those Pashtuns who move to the West end up losing their language, customs etc especially after a generation or two.