Attention: straight forward request from everyone.

[Musafira]

Thank you for saying that Feroza. I completely agree with you.. I and a few others that I know of are almost afraid to voicing our opinions here because if you dare disagree (even politely) with certain people you get attacked.

[Admin Khan]

Thank you for saying that Feroza. I completely agree with you.. I and a few others that I know of are almost afraid to voicing our opinions here because if you dare disagree (even politely) with certain people you get attacked.

*Sighs*
No one will get attacked as long as I am around. You should be very well aware by now that if anyone attacks you, I will defend you. If any post is meant to insult you, I will delete it and impose a ban when necessary.

After all these months, I figured that would be the first thing you should know by now is that I do not tolerate personal-attacks or insults. If anyone does commit such a thing, A quick PM to me and I make it my duty to rectify the situation with an iron-fist.

With that being said, Feel free to voice your mind. We will gladly embrace your thoughts.

[Feroza_Banu]

Thank you for saying that Feroza. I completely agree with you.. I and a few others that I know of are almost afraid to voicing our opinions here because if you dare disagree (even politely) with certain people you get attacked.

you are welcome... and thank you... i feel the same way as you!

[Musafira]

What I consider attacked might not be what you consider attacked I considered being called arrogant and asked if I am a Muslim because I expressed a differing opinion as an attack. Admin Khan sometimes I think it's better NOT to argue with people when it has become clear that they are unable/unwilling to even ponder any view except the one they currently hold. You might call that weakness but I call it being realistic. I love to discuss things with reasonable people but I'm not going to waste my time with the unreasonable ones. I don't understand why some people cannot respectfully disagree with others opinions but that is the reality.

[Mayana]

Thank you for saying that Feroza. I completely agree with you.. I and a few others that I know of are almost afraid to voicing our opinions here because if you dare disagree (even politely) with certain people you get attacked.

You should never be afraid to voice your opinion, Khoori! Not here, not anywhere.. it's a hadith of the prophet sas that reads "The greatest struggle is speaking the truth in the face of an oppressor" Now, I'm not saying that anyone on here is an oppressor.. but rather that it will be difficult to voice your opinion and that you still should have enough courage and confidence to do so. =)

[PFgulalai]

If I have to agree with your logic, then this forum must be renamed as Muslimforum or MuslimPashtunforum. Since that is not the case here (since the forum is named as Pashtunforum), I am allowed to criticize stoning to death even if that costs me a paradise.

we are foremost Muslims. Pashtun identity does not take you to paradise.

And nobody is allowed to critisize or mock our religion. Whoever does so is not one of us. And non-Muslims and atheists and Islam bashers are alien to Pashtun identity.

So who-ever is not in line with the Muslim majority of Afghanistan and attacks our religion is attacking Pashtuns in general.

[شمله ور خراساني]

^i don't have time to go look for specific examples...
on a side note... sometimes i feel extremely embarassed for other muslims here when i read their comments. I think we all need to step back, relax, take a few deep breath and realize that we are not perfect ourselves!... we are all human. if you we are so full of ourselves that suddenly we start placing ourselves in a position of God (astaghfirullah) and start judging others, it might lead to displeasing Allah swt and we might be punished for it in the future. the problem is that we all know how to talk big but inside we are all empty, angry, depressed ...

I never point to a non-muslim and show disappointment in their behaviour... what i rather like to do is point to myself and see what all is wrong in me and needs fixing... Even in Quran we are instructed to fix ourselves first before others... i am surprised to see the PF is full of perfect individuals.

dont dodge the question.

[شمله ور خراساني]

If I have to agree with your logic, then this forum must be renamed as Muslimforum or MuslimPashtunforum. Since that is not the case here (since the forum is named as Pashtunforum), I am allowed to criticize stoning to death even if that costs me a paradise.

You are not making much sense. Just because the forums name is not Islam, it means you can come here and talk trash about our religion?

Pashtuns are Muslims. There are unfortunately some rich and wealthy people who live elsewhere and have disbelieved due to their attachment to the worldly matters.

But Pashtun identity is synonimous to being a staunch Muslim. We have converted the sub-continent to Islam, and according to sahih ahadith by our prophet muhammad saww, we will liberate Palestine.

Non-Muslims have no business in hijacking this forum for their personal frustration and anger against Islam.

It is not our fault that such lowly people have disbelieved. Any apostate is free to go elsewhere and bother someone else.

We at Pashtunforums are concerned with the well being of Pashtuns. Who happen to be Muslims.

The non-Muslims have no business here. Since all you frustrated and emotional characters are after, is find a place where you can vent your frustrations without being punished.

Because the filth the non-Muslims post here will be dealt with with brute force back home.

I suggest you disbelievers go and join your compadres at rohellah forum where all the disbelievers have gathered.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

People should know that the admin are DOING their job!

That said, if you are going to express your "opinion," you better make sure you know how to defend it and not be afraid to be asked questions.

You can't simply say something stupid and expect people to make it the quote of the day. Things don't work like that. Just because your post might look all logical in your eyes, it does not mean that it is.

I feel that a lot of people who feel "attacked" are meddling in topics they don't have the stomach for or the stamina to withstand, because they don't know the full background of the topic and they are simply pulling answers from the air.

If you feel that you are being "attacked" report that post. But, before you do that, make sure that are not simply complaining because your logic was skinned.

Sometimes things get heated, but that is part of a "debate." No hard-feelings are intended.

I find that a forum is the best place to express your views. You have no fear of looking bad--no one knows you.

If anyone accuses this site of injustice then I can honestly say that you are have done YOUR PART. Your part is to report. However, don't expect the admin to baby-sit you because you lack debating skills.

[Catya Sher]

This may be getting off the topic of the character of the Forum, but
that's too interesting about the Pashtuns are going to help free Palestine - according to a Hadith?
Which one? What does it say?
Does everyone talk about this?
Maybe it's true that nothing will succeed until the valiant veterans of fighting the Soviet Army, and others, ahem, roll up their sleeves figuratively and start a campaign to free up that region.
Maybe there's hope after all for justice !

I'll be back with more questions on the other subjects tomorrow, very much appreciated all the insights so far!

[شمله ور خراساني]

This may be getting off the topic of the character of the Forum, but
that's too interesting about the Pashtuns are going to help free Palestine - according to a Hadith?
Which one? What does it say?
Does everyone talk about this?
Maybe it's true that nothing will succeed until the valiant veterans of fighting the Soviet Army, and others, ahem, roll up their sleeves figuratively and start a campaign to free up that region.
Maybe there's hope after all for justice !

I'll be back with more questions on the other subjects tomorrow, very much appreciated all the insights so far!

there are a number of ahadith describing the end of days. And when the end is near, an army of Muslims will rise from Khurasan (modern Afghanistan) and liberate the holy land. The leader of this army will be the Mahdi. If I find a good scholarly work on this matter, I will post it here in the religion section.

[Musafira]

I think some people do not have any idea how obnoxious they come across when they talk about people in a thread and say "Oh I guess so & so is scared to reply or we got so & so cornered now or making fun of who takes so & so's side." These "debates" as you all call them are far from appearing friendly. I think I should be able to express my opinion without someone calling me arrogant or questioning my faith. I guess I'm weak/cowardly or whatever in most of your eyes since I don't appreciate how many of you "debate" here. I find it shocking and disturbing that some here are incapable of saying "Okay that is your opinion and I respect that but this is mine........ now let's MOVE ON!"

[Catya Sher]

Re the previous message about Hadith:

Yes please do post any relevant materials.
Now I remember that about Khorasan.
But I would be keen to hear any more details about it.
Hurray!! Yippee!

[JAMALUDEEN]

there are a number of ahadith describing the end of days. And when the end is near, an army of Muslims will rise from Khurasan (modern Afghanistan) and liberate the holy land. The leader of this army will be the Mahdi. If I find a good scholarly work on this matter, I will post it here in the religion section.

I have read about this sometime a while back as well . There were a few other details like the state of living e.g. poverty of the people.



I will be waiting for your post about this.


EDIT

I actually read it in an ebook, i will see if i can find it.

[JAMALUDEEN]

I think some people do not any idea how obnoxious they come across when they talk about people in a thread and say "Oh I guess so & so is scared to reply or we got so & so cornered now or making fun of who takes so & so's side." These "debates" as you all call them are far from appearing friendly. I think I should be able to express my opinion without someone calling me arrogant or questioning my faith. I guess I'm weak/cowardly or whatever in most of your eyes since I don't appreciate how many of you "debate" here. I find it shocking and disturbing that some here are incapable of saying "Okay that is your opinion and I respect that but this is mine........ now let's MOVE ON!"

I apologize if someone has insulted you. Khair dai pre dai no..... soona khabiri pissey gerzey peh khudai...