Attention: straight forward request from everyone.

[Zarawar]

There is alot of Anti-Afghan and anti-Islamic propaganda being spread here.

Pashtu kho pa topa wala, magar pa da Islam kho ma khandai, or alteast control kawai kho ye.

I'm not going to point to any specific person or admin.


Magar da malandey kho ramandey ma wahai,

This is like a Pashtun Hujra/Mehmankhana, ta zama kor ta rashan aw zama pa Hujra ke sok Pa islam ya Afghanistan tawheen kawalai shee?

Pa khodai stargey kho ye war wabasam.

Dalta da freedom of speech aw da secularism da larey pa Afghanistan aw Islam malandey wahal kegee.

Either tell us your mindsets (ideologies) or stop this.

pashtu ke yow matal dai

"Lmar pa dwo goto na pateyee"

Pashtun qawm yo, kedai she der diplomatic aw roshan fekra na woo. Magar da de twan laro chey yow sha aw bad wa pejano.

Lotfan da de makh newai wakrai, ..

Don't mix pashtunwali/Islam with WESTERN AZADI, it will never has and never will work.

Nan pa Islam aw Afghanistan khandee, saba ta tableegh da Islam aw da Afghanistan par zed pa AMDE zai ke darta shoro kawee, aw shoro karai ye dai.

Mashallah majority of us come from good family backgrounds and I can see that. Dalta der ba istedada aw poh Afghani wrona khwandey shta. Kho da chop kenastai mo pa gata wallah kawee..

[Levanaye Zalmaye]

AZADI is not 'Western'. It's universal.

[Zarawar]

AZADI is not 'Western'. It's universal.

bya da ghalata khabara wakra,
KEYWORD: WESTERN!
I said "WESTERN AZAADI"
I didn't say AZAADI by itself.

[Levanaye Zalmaye]

You misunderstood my post. You referred to freedom as 'western' and you confirmed that with your second post by saying that freedom can be categorized. Freedom is what it is - it's neither Western nor Eastern.

If you're still not convinced, I follow this particular scholar who has nothing to do with the West:

If the people of this religion are asked about the proof for the soundness of their religion, they flare up, get angry and spill the blood of whoever confronts them with this question. They forbid rational speculation, and strive to kill their adversaries. This is why truth became thoroughly silenced and concealed

[Zarawar]

You misunderstood my post. You referred to freedom as 'western' and you confirmed that with your second post by saying that freedom can be categorized. Freedom is what it is - it's neither Western nor Eastern.

If you're still not convinced, I follow this particular scholar who has nothing to do with the West:

If the people of this religion are asked about the proof for the soundness of their religion, they flare up, get angry and spill the blood of whoever confronts them with this question. They forbid rational speculation, and strive to kill their adversaries. This is why truth became thoroughly silenced and concealed

Why do you keep speaking for my "nafs"?
Where exactly did I refer to FREEDOM as WESTERN?
I said " WESTERN FREEDOM"
WESTERN FREEDOM is different than ordinary or Islamic freedom.
Also, if wanted to refer to freedom as western, I would tell you that also.
I don't need to give you coded messages.

[Levanaye Zalmaye]

Yes, you said "Western freedom" and "Islamic freedom" and that freedom can be different. My point is that freedom cannot be 'different' - it either is or it isn't. If you put certain restrictions on freedom and call it "Islamic freedom", it won't be freedom - it'll be just another system.

[Zarawar]

Yes, you said "Western freedom" and "Islamic freedom" and that freedom can be different. My point is that freedom cannot be 'different' - it either is or it isn't. If you put certain restrictions on freedom and call it "Islamic freedom", it won't be freedom - it'll be just another system.

But, that's only if you don't believe in "islamic freedom"

I would expect someone labeling "Islamic freedom" as " just another system" from a non muslim, not a muslim.

I'm confused.

Oh and I didn't put any restrictions on any freedom. ( you are predicting about me AGAIN)

[شمله ور خراساني]

زوره وره اشنا!

دا کفارو او مرتدین دلته واک نه لري
د دغو مردارخواره خبري ریپوت کړه

ادمین خان زموږ مسلمان ورور دی

سمدلاس عمل کوي

[Zarawar]

lol I'm not no kid.
Deleting posts doesn't help.
It's not that by deleting that person's post (that just cursed someone's sister/mother) things will change?
NO!
Because that person will use profanity and beghairati wherever he finds it necessary.
ka reshtya pashtana zanta wayee delete their accounts, kana tar de pashtunforums de ter yo.
very simple and very Afghan.

[شمله ور خراساني]

zarawara, people who use profanity or insult our religion have been either banned, or their accounts have been suspended, others get warnings for less offensive posts.

But don't worry. Just report. I do that all the time. And alhamdulilah, allot of things have changed ever since I joined this forum. For a while the anti-Islamic alliance was gaining the opperhand. But they are peanuts now.

So don't worry. You can't help it. We have too many kuffaar and murtadeen among the rich upper class who live outside Afghanistan. Dunya has made them loose faith.

But the administrator of this website is a good muslim. And he does not tolerate such nonsense. So we should all join in and help out. And keep this website clean of the filthy apostates.

[Catya Sher]

That's really good.

What are murtadeen by the way ?
Does this happen to most of the wealthy Afghan emigres living in the West?
Why do they forget their country and background ?
Or, were they like that already before they left?

I am a little curious about this unfortunate phenomenon.

[Admin Khan]

That's really good.

What are murtadeen by the way ?
Does this happen to most of the wealthy Afghan emigres living in the West?
Why do they forget their country and background ?
Or, were they like that already before they left?

I am a little curious about this unfortunate phenomenon.

No.

I live in one of the most populous Pashtun/Afghan dominated areas in the west. Majority of the Pashtuns/Afghans are still Muslim. Some even go as far as building Mosques and memorizing the Holy Quran.

[شمله ور خراساني]

That's really good.

What are murtadeen by the way ?
Does this happen to most of the wealthy Afghan emigres living in the West?
Why do they forget their country and background ?
Or, were they like that already before they left?

I am a little curious about this unfortunate phenomenon.

Most rich and wealthy people among Pashtuns today are the secularists. They have gained their wealth by working for the corrupt governments.

Traditional wealthy peopel of the past fled Afghanistan long time ago. The ones who didn't lost all their wealth during the communist era when commies would take rich peoples land and possessions.

The modern upper class in Afghanistan are former commies, natrionalists, secularists and servants of America.

If not, then they are opffspring of the warlords. And as we have seen in our recent history, those warlods might be sporting beards and large turbans, but they are by no means muslims.

[muhsina]

Khoga wrora

I liked your style and would like to opine as follows:

Anti-Afghan propaganda is there. But as this is an educational and awareness forum so let them do it ,it is our duty to respond to the propaganda.If you know that it is a propaganda then you refute it with your aeguments so it will help another Afghan brother os sister in other part of the world to know about it. If it is not a propaganda then there is no need to refute it.

The same applies to anti Islam. However please not that Afghans are not obliged to believe in your religion as there will be non muslims Afghans too and secondly Afghans are also not obliged to believe in your sect or version of Islam. We have these Muqalids,ghair Muqalids,Sufis, Shias,Sunnis,etc. All are Afghans and if you think that no body should talk against sufism or sufis or against other Muqalids or hair Muqalids then it will be highly unfair. As that would mean you are imposing your sect on Afghans which is a form of autocracy and dictatorship which Afghans will and should denounce.

Last thing but not least is that,unfortunatley religion and religeous people have damaged Afghanistan more than anyhting else. Even today I am sure a lot of gullible Aghans are ready like a hot cake to get exploited by religion and get destroyed. Pakistan used the same technique against Afghans. They asked Afghans to fight agaisnt infidels and others while the same muslim brothers sold the Afghan blood to the infidels and got dollars to build their country at the cost of Afghan blood and destruction. So I will request that

Take religion just as your private affair and always keep the national interests of Afghanistan as the first and foremost.

I hope you will consider my sincere suggestions.

[شمله ور خراساني]

non-Muslims have no business in Afghanistan and Afghan affairs. They are just nuisance.