Racial hatred againt Karachi's Pashtuns

[afghan]

afghan,
do you accpet this video as an example of N/A crimes against pashtuns?
This is real and from afghanistan not pakistan.
Kunduz-Afghanistan; Genocide Against Pashtuns by NA Tajik Mafia Backed by CIA, Iran... - YouTube[/URL]

i guess thats how paki sponsored taliban treated them. afghans are ghairati nation they took revenge. like many pashtun did.

[gadoonwal]

it is realy shame that we have some pashtuns from paki side defending the state of pakistan and its army.For four long years i try everything to expose pak army crimes against pashtuns but could,nt convince people like shah baz and banu mazigar etc.
Samthing on afghan side the tajik and hazaras hate pashtu language and calling names to our babagan.They imposed parsi on pashtuns and pashtuns accepted that.
In media ,govt etc 85% is dari.pashtun karzai and many other pashtuns most of the time talk in dari.
If you do not know dari you can not even think to serve in govt.
The patriotic and pashtunists are in very small number on both side of durand.
The rest are all pupets and oppertunists.

DEfending pakism and farsiwanism is like to slaughtering pashtuns and pashtu.

[gadoonwal]

i guess thats how paki sponsored taliban treated them. afghans are ghairati nation they took revenge. like many pashtun did.

ok you are fully exposed now.
if you think these pashtuns are paki in the video then you must be agent of criminal allaince.
The members will judge your agenda.

[afghan]

ok you are fully exposed now.
if you think these pashtuns are paki in the video then you must be agent of criminal allaince.
The members will judge your agenda.

Congratulations you finally did it. LOL enjoy fish oil it helped you. Take some more.

[gadoonwal]

you do seem desperate. Ahadi isn't a nationalist. he is just as desperate as any power hungry dog, just like hekmatyar and masood.

in 1995 Anwar-ul-Haq Ahady took over the Wakman branch. Under his leadership, the party toned down its Pashtun nationalist profile and sought support amongst non-Pashtuns. The Wakman branch of the party is recognized by the Afghan government as the "Afghan Mellat Party"
was Gulbadin ever elected by pashtun? Your great ANp ruled over pashtuns.
there were many pashtun who ruled pakies, Ayub khan, GHulam isaq sikandar hayat( if he was a pashtun?)no body cares what they did they weren't pashtun nationalist just like hekmatyar masood karzai sayaff( fazlurahman). neither they offers their daughters to their enemies.

so ahadi is not pashtun nationalists come on.
ok leave it there.
You are lier and have no gutts to face the truth.
The members can see how you making fool of yourself.

Ahadi sb is the leader of pashtun nationalist party afghan-milltat.
He is from sarobi-kabul.
He is married to the daughter of pir Gelani.

[gadoonwal]

Congratulations you finally did it. LOL enjoy fish oil it helped you. Take some more.

It works how i know?
I have seen people using it and it works.
I am ok .No need tablets.
I do,nt even use tablets for headace.
I use tradational stuf when i needed.

zayar largay,,,,,is good for stomic deases .
The skin of ,,anar,,/pumegrinate can work in coughing.
many other things i know.
i am neem-hakeem.

[afghan]

so ahadi is not pashtun nationalists come on.
ok leave it there.
You are lier and have no gutts to face the truth.
The members can see how you making fool of yourself.

Ahadi sb is the leader of pashtun nationalist party afghan-milltat.
He is from sarobi-kabul.
He is married to the daughter of pir Gelani.

you are so called specialist on pashtun affairs. take more FISH OIL it helps you, Afghan Millat led by Shams-ul-Huda Shams was a pashtun nationalist, not the so called Ahadi afghan millet.

[afghan]

It works how i know?
I have seen people using it and it works.
I am ok .No need tablets.
I do,nt even use tablets for headace.
I use tradational stuf when i needed.

zayar largay,,,,,is good for stomic deases .
The skin of ,,anar,,/pumegrinate can work in coughing.
many other things i know.
i am neem-hakeem.

neem hakim zhwand ta khatar ao neem mola iman ta.

[gadoonwal]

neem hakim zhwand ta khatar ao neem mola iman ta.

true ,here i agree with you.
But soon i wll be hakeem and will help you if needed.
laa tar wosa zama la lasa tsok mar shawi nadey.
makhkay de khoday khair key.


Back to the topic.
We should continue to expose pakistani and MQM crimes against pashtuns.
Tajiks and uzbiks can kill us,discriminate us,abuse our language and history.We proud pashtuns do,nt mind cus their bullets and abuse are like ,,malghalaray/marghalaray,for us.Lets make our ,,,afghan,,freind happy.
pashtunists must suffer and wait for allah to send some angels to help pashtu and pashtuns.
khodi pa aman afghan sb shpa mu pa khair wraz mu nek margha,,,,,.

[Sarbani]

So basically after examining this thread, most people don't like mohajirs because they are arrogant and claim to be pasthun, arab etc.?

For some reason whenever anyone from the Indian subcontinent claims Pashtun ancestry, then they're thought of as highly and nobody questions them. Yet if that same person says they're even 1/16th Arab, Persian, or any other foreign non-Pashtun ethnicity then they're called wannabes and become a laughing stock.

[Sarbani]

1. "Mohajirs" are a heterogenous community who have three commonalities.

a: They are Muslim (around 25% are Shia)
b: They are from India
c: They are not from one of the ethnic groups local to the land which now comprises the Pakistani state i.e. Punjabis, Balochis, Sindhis.


2. I once read that 1/3 of Mohajirs are "Pathans", though this might be exaggerated, quite a few Mohajirs are of Pashtun lineage. I in fact personally knew someone who was from an Indian Yusufzai family that migrated to Karachi.

Also many of the Mohajirs are actually from the supposed "elite" Indian Muslim families/castes including "Siddiqis" (supposed descendants of Hadhrat Abu Bakr ra), Qureishis etc and quite a few have Arab and Central Asian blood as they migrated with the Mughals to form the elite of northern Indian Muslim society in Delhi and elsewhere.

Sub-ethnic groups within Mohajirs include:

- Kachis (speakers of a dialect of Gujarati).
- Hyderabadis
- Biharis
- Uttar Pradeshis
- Rajasthanis
- Memons (very rich and successful in business)
- "Pathans" (Pathans from different regions of India including Bihar, Uttar Pradesh).


3. Pakistan was originally meant to be a "Mohajir" ruled country i.e. the northern Indian Muslim Mughal elite would have a neo-Mughal state to rule free of the Hindus.

a: Language would be an Indian language, Urdu.
b: Capital would be a new mainly Indian Muslim city, Karachi (though in Sindh)
c: Political elite would be Indian Muslims.


The neo-Mughal Indian Muslim elite would rule Pakistan the way the white Ashkenazim from Europe rule Israel.

This however all ended when Ayub Khan, a Hindko "Pathan", became ruler of Pakistan and transferred power to the north, to the Punjabis and others.


4. Mohajirs are discriminated against by racist Punjabis (though Mohajirs themselves have their own issues) and some feel disillusionment with the state of Pakistan and almost feel like part of a state/country which does not accept them, some have even gone so far as to compare themselves to the Palestinians.

Some Mohajirs dislike Pashtuns (in my experience it is Punjabis whom Mohajirs really hate as they run the country) and they look down on Bengalis.

However in Karachi, the 3 million or so Bengalis have essentially sided with fellow Indic Mohajirs whom they have racially, linguistically and culturally more in common with than Pashtuns i.e. Karachi Bengalis have been embraced by the MQM.

Mohajirs also dislike and look down on Sindhis.

Mohajir nationalists look on Karachi as their city and do not care that Karachi is actually in Sindh and was originally a Balochi city. They however view Karachi as a "Mohajir" city.


Personally I feel Mohajirs will never be happy within Punjabi-dominated Pakistan, and when Pakistan breaks up they should accept themselves as equal (not superior) members of a state of Sindhudesh.

If they have dreams of breaking Karachi away from Sindh that will never ever happen, and the war there will make Waziristan look like a picnic.

Memoni and Kutchi are both types of Sindhis and speak Sindhi dialects.

99% of "Pashtuns" from India are just wannabes. Trust me, I've seen many of them and they look nothing like real Pashtuns.

I agree that the Muhajirs are never going to separate from Sindh.

[Baraki]

Memoni and Kutchi are both types of Sindhis and speak Sindhi dialects.

99% of "Pashtuns" from India are just wannabes. Trust me, I've seen many of them and they look nothing like real Pashtuns.

I agree that the Muhajirs are never going to separate from Sindh.

Slow down wrora.. pashtuns (during our many conquests to india) formed ethnically exclusive 'bastis' in punjab and kept pashto alive in their community for 400 years... i learned both ormuri and pashto from my father whos side of the family lived in Jalandhar.. even when they moved to pakistan at partition they stayed in these kinds of settlements (ive mention Zaman Park lahore where it is all pashtuns, mostly ormurs and imran khans mom Shaukat Khanum is from here too). although the rest of my grandparents were from pashtunistan area (Jalalabad, Mardan, swat) i am most intrigued by the side that lived in India.

yeah and if anyone identifies as a muhajir and pashtun they definitely are not pashtun lol. those are family myths (out great great great great grandpa came from afghanistan lol)

[Karachi]

The ones that may have pashtun descendants usually identify themselves as Urduspeaking Pathans. Pathan/Pashtun has almost become like a caste in north india. The rohilla area of West UP, Mordabad, Rampur districts were a Pashtun stronghold. The term (muhajir)) is a bogus term which was created much after, which MQM people started using as a nationalist term in the 70's 80's.

[Baraki]

The ones that may have pashtun descendants usually identify themselves as Urduspeaking Pathans. Pathan/Pashtun has almost become like a caste in north india. The rohilla area of West UP, Mordabad, Rampur districts were a Pashtun stronghold. The term (muhajir)) is a bogus term which was created much after, which MQM people started using as a nationalist term in the 70's 80's.

Yup. Recently I saw my papers from Pakistan say "Caste: Pathan". "I was like waaaaaaaaaaah nigga I aint in no caste system" Yeah we call urdu speaking Pashtuns "Bhaiya Pathans"

[Pakwatan]

This thread is so stupid.

I have seen Pashtun Punjabi speaking Pashtuns that look more like the ideal notion of Pashtuns, than the ones in Afghanistan.

The problem with most of you nerds on this forum is that you intentionally create fitna.

On one hand people like [MENTION=1068]gadoonwal[/MENTION] saab say that being a Pashtun is following Pashtunwaali, and the language and culture.

On the other hand, the Tajiks and Hindus say that being Pashtun is based upon race. Based upon white skin and blue eyes. A genetic mutation. Hilarious.

I am a dark skinned Punjabi, so why do I have people in my family that have blue eyes?

All because of an inferiority complex..

The saddest thing I witness on this site is racists.

Whether they believe in Allah swt or not, none of them had the choice of being born from a certain race.

LOL

You guys are all some insecure faggots.

None of the members here have any achievements. All of you want to reminisce on the past, where you had no role. Hahaha

You may be a descendant of Abdali, but you are also a descendant of Adam saw. So what does this bloodline bring you?

At this point, it's not even the racism that bothers me. It's not the, I am more pious than you attitude.

What disappoints me is the jahil mentality.